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1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261945] Mon, 15 September 2014 09:17 Go to next message
larry.whisler is currently offline  larry.whisler   United States
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I am looking at purchasing a towd vehicle and found one that is locally for
sale.

It's a 96 Geo tracker with manual transmission and rear wheel drive. The owner
has been using it as a towd behind his motor home and claims to have towed it
all over without problems.

I have heard conflicting stories on this and I know of one owner that installed
a 4WD transfer case on a rear wheel drive version so as to disengage the transmission
from the final drive.

Does anyone out there have a 96 Tracker that can verify some of this information
from the owner's manual or past experience?

thanks in advance

larry
Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261946 is a reply to message #261945] Mon, 15 September 2014 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a 92 Geo Tracker and pulled it over 10,000 miles with out any problems. Mine was 4wd but had the same transfer case. I usually traveled about 65 mph and never even knew it was back there. I have been looking for another one to use as a towed, but in our area they are worn out or rusted out. You shouldn't have any issues using the '96 as a towed.

Bob and Pam Schilling Rapid City, SD "78 Royale

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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261948 is a reply to message #261946] Mon, 15 September 2014 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
larry.whisler is currently offline  larry.whisler   United States
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Bob,

thanks for the response.

The four wheel drive models have the transfer case that can be
put in 'neutral'.

The rear wheel drive models don't have the transfer case and
(I've heard) can't be pulled with 4 wheels down unless
the drive shaft is pulled or disengaged by some other method.

The owner claims that because it's a manual transmission, it can
be pulled with four wheels down.

larry
Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261959 is a reply to message #261948] Mon, 15 September 2014 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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larry.whisler wrote on Mon, 15 September 2014 10:45
Bob,

thanks for the response.

The four wheel drive models have the transfer case that can be put in 'neutral'.

The rear wheel drive models don't have the transfer case and (I've heard) can't be pulled with 4 wheels down unless
the drive shaft is pulled or disengaged by some other method.

The owner claims that because it's a manual transmission, it can be pulled with four wheels down.

larry

Larry,

I strongly suggest that you talk to Bill Mitchel about his tracker before you do anything else. He doesn't want to sell his, but he did have to fix it.....

Matt - headed into the Badlands.


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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261961 is a reply to message #261945] Mon, 15 September 2014 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Larry: Hubert Rowell has a 96 2wd he has pulled everywhere with no problems. I`ll pm his phone # as he doesn`t monitor the net. I believe his is for sale. It is a hard top.

larry.whisler wrote on Mon, 15 September 2014 10:17
I am looking at purchasing a towd vehicle and found one that is locally for
sale.

It's a 96 Geo tracker with manual transmission and rear wheel drive. The owner
has been using it as a towd behind his motor home and claims to have towed it
all over without problems.

I have heard conflicting stories on this and I know of one owner that installed
a 4WD transfer case on a rear wheel drive version so as to disengage the transmission
from the final drive.

Does anyone out there have a 96 Tracker that can verify some of this information
from the owner's manual or past experience?

thanks in advance

larry



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East Tennessee
Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261964 is a reply to message #261959] Mon, 15 September 2014 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
larry.whisler is currently offline  larry.whisler   United States
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Matt,

I just got off the phone with bill.

He shared some good information.

thanks
larry
Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261971 is a reply to message #261945] Mon, 15 September 2014 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We towed a '95 2wd Tracker "4 down" for a couple years before we got our
'01. Never had any trouble with either one. 120k+ so far.

bdub

On Sep 15, 2014 9:18 AM, "larry.whisler" wrote:
>
> I am looking at purchasing a towd vehicle and found one that is locally
for sale.
>
> It's a 96 Geo tracker with manual transmission and rear wheel drive. The
owner
> has been using it as a towd behind his motor home and claims to have
towed it all over without problems.
>
> I have heard conflicting stories on this and I know of one owner that
installed a 4WD transfer case on a rear wheel drive version so as to
disengage the transmission from the final drive.
>
> Does anyone out there have a 96 Tracker that can verify some of this
information from the owner's manual or past experience?
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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261975 is a reply to message #261945] Mon, 15 September 2014 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I towed my 96 Tracker for 4 yrs. As noted in the owners manual, I towed it 4 down by putting the transfer case in neutral and the transmission in 2nd gear. Towed at any speed I wanted for as long as I wanted with no issues. Just do NOT forget to put transfer case in neutral. Don't ask how I know... Sad

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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261982 is a reply to message #261975] Mon, 15 September 2014 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,
His is a 2WD with no transfer case to put in neutral. The manual states that it is not towable 4 down. You may get away with for a while but one of the bearings will fail somewhere down the road as happen on Bill’s. I was parked next to Bill M at the GMCGL Rally in Dearborn this summer and we had this very discussion and he showed me his owners manual which I took pictures of the necessary pages. Bill replaced his transmission with one out of 4WD and it allows him to put the transfer case in neutral and allow him to tow without issue. One other club member had the driveshaft disconnect from Remco for his 2WD.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55944-tracker.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55945-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55947-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55946-tracker-towing.html

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Michigan

On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Larry wrote:

> I towed my 96 Tracker for 4 yrs. As noted in the owners manual, I towed it 4 down by putting the transfer case in neutral and the transmission in 2nd
> gear. Towed at any speed I wanted for as long as I wanted with no issues. Just do NOT forget to put transfer case in neutral. Don't ask how I
> know... :(
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261987 is a reply to message #261982] Mon, 15 September 2014 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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powerjon wrote on Mon, 15 September 2014 17:04
Larry,
His is a 2WD with no transfer case to put in neutral. The manual states that it is not towable 4 down. You may get away with for a while but one of the bearings will fail somewhere down the road as happen on Bill's. I was parked next to Bill M at the GMCGL Rally in Dearborn this summer and we had this very discussion and he showed me his owners manual which I took pictures of the necessary pages. Bill replaced his transmission with one out of 4WD and it allows him to put the transfer case in neutral and allow him to tow without issue. One other club member had the driveshaft disconnect from Remco for his 2WD.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55944-tracker.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55945-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55947-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55946-tracker-towing.html

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Larry wrote:

> I towed my 96 Tracker for 4 yrs. As noted in the owners manual, I towed it 4 down by putting the transfer case in neutral and the transmission in 2nd
> gear. Towed at any speed I wanted for as long as I wanted with no issues. Just do NOT forget to put transfer case in neutral. Don't ask how I
> know... Sad
> --
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I was intrigued by the recommendation to put it on a tow dolly backwards. That may be great for the driveline but not so great for sustaining life !


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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #261997 is a reply to message #261982] Mon, 15 September 2014 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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powerjon wrote on Mon, 15 September 2014 18:04
Larry,
His is a 2WD with no transfer case to put in neutral. The manual states that it is not towable 4 down. You may get away with for a while but one of the bearings will fail somewhere down the road as happen on Bill's. I was parked next to Bill M at the GMCGL Rally in Dearborn this summer and we had this very discussion and he showed me his owners manual which I took pictures of the necessary pages. Bill replaced his transmission with one out of 4WD and it allows him to put the transfer case in neutral and allow him to tow without issue. One other club member had the driveshaft disconnect from Remco for his 2WD.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55944-tracker.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55945-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55947-tracker-towing.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p55946-tracker-towing.html

JR Wright
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75 Avion
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Ahh...Sorry, I missed that.


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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262192 is a reply to message #261945] Thu, 18 September 2014 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about an automatic with 4WD?

Found a decent one [99]. Others have said stay away from the automatics for other durability reasons


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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262221 is a reply to message #262192] Thu, 18 September 2014 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 02:03
How about an automatic with 4WD?

Found a decent one [99]. Others have said stay away from the automatics for other durability reasons


Having a 95 auto 4wd I hope there are no durability reasons. My Suzuki Sidekick owners manual says it can be towed 4 down with the transfer case in neutral and the trans in park. It also says that every 200 miles the engine should be started to properly lube the transfer case. Suzuki forum said this is to throw some oil on the rear transfer case bearing.


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Re: 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262231 is a reply to message #262221] Thu, 18 September 2014 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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midlf wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 08:27
Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 02:03
How about an automatic with 4WD?

Found a decent one [99]. Others have said stay away from the automatics for other durability reasons


Having a 95 auto 4wd I hope there are no durability reasons. My Suzuki Sidekick owners manual says it can be towed 4 down with the transfer case in neutral and the trans in park. It also says that every 200 miles the engine should be started to properly lube the transfer case. Suzuki forum said this is to throw some oil on the rear transfer case bearing.



Ditto on our '03 Tracker. We tow it nearly everywhere we take the GMC, probably 15 - 20,000 miles since we've had it. No durability issues at all. We use the Four Wheel Drive often at our various destinations as well.


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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262233 is a reply to message #262231] Thu, 18 September 2014 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We are looking at a 96 tracker - with 320,000 kms (most from being towed)
Auto. In excellent condition. $4000 canadian.
The high mileage is my question - this tracker has been well maintained -
no rust, like new interior and exterior. From a trusted Club member. It's
just the mileage that has me scratching my mind. Yes or no.

Dwayne
77 kingsley with 307 final drive that would need changing

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> midlf wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 08:27
>> Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 02:03
>>> How about an automatic with 4WD?
>>>
>>> Found a decent one [99]. Others have said stay away from the
> automatics for other durability reasons
>>
>>
>> Having a 95 auto 4wd I hope there are no durability reasons. My Suzuki
> Sidekick owners manual says it can be towed 4 down with the transfer case
>> in neutral and the trans in park. It also says that every 200 miles the
> engine should be started to properly lube the transfer case. Suzuki forum
>> said this is to throw some oil on the rear transfer case bearing.
>
>
>
> Ditto on our '03 Tracker. We tow it nearly everywhere we take the GMC,
> probably 15 - 20,000 miles since we've had it. No durability issues at all.
> We use the Four Wheel Drive often at our various destinations as well.
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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262274 is a reply to message #262233] Thu, 18 September 2014 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""We are looking at a 96 tracker - with 320,000 kms (most from being towed)
Auto. In excellent condition. $4000 canadian.
The high mileage is my question - this tracker has been well maintained -
no rust, like new interior and exterior. From a trusted Club member. It's
just the mileage that has me scratching my mind. Yes or no.

Dwayne
77 kingsley with 307 final drive that would need changing
""

Does the Tracker register mileage when being towed with the transfer case in neutral? That may help decide how many "real" miles are on most of the car.


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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262275 is a reply to message #262274] Thu, 18 September 2014 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 17:33
""We are looking at a 96 tracker - with 320,000 kms (most from being towed)
Auto. In excellent condition. $4000 canadian.
The high mileage is my question - this tracker has been well maintained -
no rust, like new interior and exterior. From a trusted Club member. It's
just the mileage that has me scratching my mind. Yes or no.

Dwayne
77 kingsley with 307 final drive that would need changing
""

Does the Tracker register mileage when being towed with the transfer case in neutral? That may help decide how many "real" miles are on most of the car.


Good point. The later model trackers do not register mileage while being towed.


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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262276 is a reply to message #262275] Thu, 18 September 2014 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 96 Sidekick does register mileage while being towed. It is a manual
shift four wheel drive. I often just crawl under the Sidekick and
disconnect the speedometer cable at the tranny (or wherever ii is). Mine
has 46k miles with 20k due to towing when I did not disconnect the cable.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale 73 23' Painted Desert NC/OR

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 17:33
>> ""We are looking at a 96 tracker - with 320,000 kms (most from being
> towed)
>> Auto. In excellent condition. $4000 canadian.
>> The high mileage is my question - this tracker has been well maintained -
>> no rust, like new interior and exterior. From a trusted Club member. It's
>> just the mileage that has me scratching my mind. Yes or no.
>>
>> Dwayne
>> 77 kingsley with 307 final drive that would need changing
>> ""
>>
>> Does the Tracker register mileage when being towed with the transfer
> case in neutral? That may help decide how many "real" miles are on most of
>> the car.
>
>
> Good point. The later model trackers do not register mileage while being
> towed.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 1996 Geo Traker as Towd [message #262281 is a reply to message #262276] Thu, 18 September 2014 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Wheeler wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 18:11
My 96 Sidekick does register mileage while being towed. It is a manual
shift four wheel drive. I often just crawl under the Sidekick and
disconnect the speedometer cable at the tranny (or wherever ii is). Mine
has 46k miles with 20k due to towing when I did not disconnect the cable.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale 73 23' Painted Desert NC/OR

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 17:33
>> ""We are looking at a 96 tracker - with 320,000 kms (most from being
> towed)
>> Auto. In excellent condition. $4000 canadian.
>> The high mileage is my question - this tracker has been well maintained -
>> no rust, like new interior and exterior. From a trusted Club member. It's
>> just the mileage that has me scratching my mind. Yes or no.
>>
>> Dwayne
>> 77 kingsley with 307 final drive that would need changing
>> ""
>>
>> Does the Tracker register mileage when being towed with the transfer
> case in neutral? That may help decide how many "real" miles are on most of
>> the car.
>
>
> Good point. The later model trackers do not register mileage while being
> towed.
>
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There you go then. We probably have put more miles on our Tracker towing it than driving it locally.


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Chris,
Since 1999 I have towed 4 different Towed's. The first was a 89 4WD 2DR rag top which had to have the locking hubs that you could free the front wheels from the front drive train and the transfer case that you put in neutral. Great little car road terrible for driving on any trip over 25 miles. The second was a 2001 4WD, 4DR AT Tracker. This car was probably the most towed by the GMCGL, we towed ours almost 40K mile and sold it to another club member and it is still on the road. The second most popular was the Saturns. As for reliability issues with the AT in the Last of the 4WD4DR trackers from 1999 to 2004 which was the second generation, I never had any issues and had never heard of any. The early trackers were the GEO version and then they were called the Chevrolet Tracker. They were designed by Suzuki and produced under both names. The Suziki Vitara had much nicer interiors and more chrome on the outside and some people put the Vitara front grills on the late
model Chevrolet Trackers for more bling.

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On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Steve Southworth wrote:

> Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 18 September 2014 02:03
>> How about an automatic with 4WD?
>>
>> Found a decent one [99]. Others have said stay away from the automatics for other durability reasons
>
>
> Having a 95 auto 4wd I hope there are no durability reasons. My Suzuki Sidekick owners manual says it can be towed 4 down with the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park. It also says that every 200 miles the engine should be started to properly lube the transfer case. Suzuki forum said
> this is to throw some oil on the rear transfer case bearing.
>
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> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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