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Fri, 12 September 2014 10:09  |
glwgmc
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When we looked at these retro-Winnies at FMCA in Redmond, OR, a short time ago the interesting features were on the inside. It is always nice to see what a major manufacturer uses to solve all the problems of adding function that a customer will like but at the lowest possible cost to keep the retail price down. For example, they designed the overhead cabinets with sliding doors rather than hinged doors. What appeared to be a custom aluminum extrusions formed the structure and the slide track and the doors were a simple rail and stile with a translucent plastic insert for the panel. Same basic treatment for the kitchen and bath storage areas as well. Gave the interior a very Euro look while being inexpensive to make, hang and replace if something gets damages while on the dealer lot. The kitchen and bath sinks and faucets were also interesting pieces that would scale well for our GMCs. Colors were light red/brown wood tones on the little bit of wood that shows, light
beige headliner, wall coverings and seating with darker beige carpets and a garish bright yellow strip for accent on the window valences and seat backs. Overall illusion is of a lot of room inside a short box. Because everything is so square and box like It also has a very functional kids bed that pulls down from the ceiling over the drivers and passengers seating. Good overall industrial design if you like modern bread box.
My guess is the retro-Winnie design cost was a fraction of what GM spent designing the living spaces in our GMCs. GM started with 75 engineers including human factors specialists, interior designers and period color experts - as many people assigned to the design and interior as to the chassis and drive train by most accounts. They mocked up dozens of floor plans and then invited 50 women motor home owners from around the country to critique those mock ups before settling on the hand full of original interior designs.
Jerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261691 is a reply to message #261687] |
Fri, 12 September 2014 11:33  |
jknezek
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All of that work and somehow we still ended up with beds that require you to climb over someone else to go to the bathroom! I will forever think of this as the single biggest living area flaw in the GMC.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261695 is a reply to message #261687] |
Fri, 12 September 2014 13:18 |
Chr$
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I was planning sliders on my custom overhead panels using just that: Aluminum rails and Lexan panels, similar to what was in the bathroom already, but with some window track felt to keep them from sliding open and closed, again, like the one in the bathroom. 
Never got around to it, but I will probably do that in another project I am working on.
I really like the interiors on the higher end EU rv's, and even the Airstreams built here for that market have the different materials and components. (AS builds a narrow body model on Trailer chassis shipped from Europe, then ships completed units back.)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261702 is a reply to message #261695] |
Fri, 12 September 2014 15:48 |
Kingsley Coach
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" then invited 50 women motor home owners from around the country to
critique those mock ups..."
And thus we have the 'crawl over' bedroom!
God Bless their little hearts, each and every one !
Mike in NS
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Chris Choffat wrote:
> I was planning sliders on my custom overhead panels using just that:
> Aluminum rails and Lexan panels, similar to what was in the bathroom
> already, but
> with some window track felt to keep them from sliding open and closed,
> again, like the one in the bathroom. :roll:
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> Never got around to it, but I will probably do that in another project I
> am working on.
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> I really like the interiors on the higher end EU rv's, and even the
> Airstreams built here for that market have the different materials and
> components.
> (AS builds a narrow body model on Trailer chassis shipped from Europe,
> then ships completed units back.)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261706 is a reply to message #261702] |
Fri, 12 September 2014 16:38 |
A Hamilto
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 15:48" then invited 50 women motor home owners from around the country to critique those mock ups..."
And thus we have the 'crawl over' bedroom!
God Bless their little hearts, each and every one !
Mike in NS I can't see where I am putting my hands when its dark and I have to climb over the CFO, but they cover a lot of territory in just that little bit of time. And when she has to climb over me, "let me help you with that...".
How old do you have to get before that stops being fun? For me anyway...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261740 is a reply to message #261706] |
Fri, 12 September 2014 22:11 |
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A Hamilto wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 14:38Kingsley Coach wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 15:48" then invited 50 women motor home owners from around the country to critique those mock ups..."
And thus we have the 'crawl over' bedroom!
God Bless their little hearts, each and every one !
Mike in NS I can't see where I am putting my hands when its dark and I have to climb over the CFO, but they cover a lot of territory in just that little bit of time. And when she has to climb over me, "let me help you with that...".
How old do you have to get before that stops being fun? For me anyway...
I think it will be fun till you can't do it 85 or more? I sleep better in that bed then the big one at home, fortunitly i don't need to use the head till around 8AM.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261804 is a reply to message #261692] |
Sat, 13 September 2014 22:52 |
Carl S.
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Keith V wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 10:22jknezek wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 11:33All of that work and somehow we still ended up with beds that require you to climb over someone else to go to the bathroom! I will forever think of this as the single biggest living area flaw in the GMC.
I kinda enjoy that part 
Me too!  Of course, I'm only 58, so I can still sleep through the night without having to get up to go to the bathroom.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261811 is a reply to message #261804] |
Sun, 14 September 2014 06:28 |
Mr ERFisher
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On Saturday, September 13, 2014, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> Keith V wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 10:22
>> jknezek wrote on Fri, 12 September 2014 11:33
>>> All of that work and somehow we still ended up with beds that require
> you to climb over someone else to go to the bathroom! I will forever
>>> think of this as the single biggest living area flaw in the GMC.
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>> I kinda enjoy that part :)
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> Me too! :d Of course, I'm only 58, so I can still sleep through the
> night without having to get up to go to the bathroom. :roll:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261818 is a reply to message #261687] |
Sun, 14 September 2014 08:53 |
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Not only is crawling over a problem but for my 5' 2" tall wife the long step down from the bed to the floor more than she is comfortable with.
This rear bed thing is the #1 reason she HATES the GMC and refuses to spend another night in it.
Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261826 is a reply to message #261824] |
Sun, 14 September 2014 09:50 |
James Hupy
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There is more than one way to take care of the "short wife" problem. (GRIN)
One way requires half of everything you own if you are lucky. The other
way, not so much. (VB GRIN) Hey Bill, have you thought about twin Gaucho's
in the back, or a dinette luxor type bed up front for her while you still
have the rear bed? Just a suggestion. Please do not take offence.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403 with a crossways queen size rear bed that my new bride
loves. (me too)
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
> I have seen some people's GMC where they have a little stool by the bed to
> take care of the "short wife" problem.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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> On Sep 14, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Bill Brown wrote:
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>> Not only is crawling over a problem but for my 5' 2" tall wife the long
> step down from the bed to the floor more than she is comfortable with.
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>> This rear bed thing is the #1 reason she HATES the GMC and refuses to
> spend another night in it.
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>> Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
>> Coshocton OH
>> carguybill@sbcglobal.net
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit? [message #261830 is a reply to message #261818] |
Sun, 14 September 2014 10:24 |
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Build and mount a small (6" high, 8" front to back") aisle width step on the floor at the edge of the bed and cover it with rug material to match your other décor. My guess is that you will come to like it, also!
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> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 07:53:38 -0600
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Nice idea, how about GMC follows suit?
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> Not only is crawling over a problem but for my 5' 2" tall wife the long step down from the bed to the floor more than she is comfortable with.
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> This rear bed thing is the #1 reason she HATES the GMC and refuses to spend another night in it.
> --
> Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
> Coshocton OH
> carguybill@sbcglobal.net
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