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Thu, 28 August 2014 22:13  |
Daniel DeLuca
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Hello,
After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
Question #1:
One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2 system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
Question #2:
A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
Dan
78’ Eleganza II
Allentown, NJ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260408 is a reply to message #260403] |
Thu, 28 August 2014 22:33  |
jimk
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Chck the solonoid switch for the side your having problem with.
It musnot be opeing , so the compressor senses hih pressure nd shuts off.
Check connection and also clean the switch for that side.
Does not matter if the switch makes contact or not, clean it.
Brake fluid problem can be solved by bending the latch to creat a firmer
pressure.
Might get a new rubber cove seal.
Take the seal to you locl jobber and they will get one for you.
Should they cannot, call me as we have everything.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>
> Question #1:
> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for a
> few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>
> Question #2:
> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master cylinder
> when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for the master
> cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>
> Dan
> 78’ Eleganza II
> Allentown, NJ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260409 is a reply to message #260403] |
Thu, 28 August 2014 22:47 |
Ken Burton
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Master Cylinder lid gaskets are available from Dorman and others. Check with AutoZone or your favorite auto parts store.
Rock Auto lists 3 different ones for $5.00 to $10.00, so take your old one with you and match it up.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260411 is a reply to message #260403] |
Thu, 28 August 2014 22:55 |
<rallymaster
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"One side of my leveling system is working well the other is
running for a few seconds and turning off (right side)."
If you have shutoff valves at the air bags, make sure that one is open.
Don't ask me why I suggest that.
RonC
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:33:25 -0700 Jim Kanomata
writes:
> Chck the solonoid switch for the side your having problem with.
> It musnot be opeing , so the compressor senses hih pressure nd shuts
> off.
> Check connection and also clean the switch for that side.
> Does not matter if the switch makes contact or not, clean it.
> Brake fluid problem can be solved by bending the latch to creat a
> firmer
> pressure.
> Might get a new rubber cove seal.
> Take the seal to you locl jobber and they will get one for you.
> Should they cannot, call me as we have everything.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>
>> Question #1:
>> I have the electro
> level 2
>> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in
> the
>> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag
> is not
>> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>
>> Question #2:
>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
> cylinder
>> when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
> the master
>> cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>
>> Dan
>> 78’ Eleganza II
>> Allentown, NJ
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North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260426 is a reply to message #260403] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 07:57 |
Ray Erspamer
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You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>
> Question #1:
> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2 system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>
> Question #2:
> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>
> Dan
> 78’ Eleganza II
> Allentown, NJ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260427 is a reply to message #260426] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 08:02 |
Daniel DeLuca
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I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
Dan.
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> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>
> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>
>> Question #1:
>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2 system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>
>> Question #2:
>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>
>> Dan
>> 78’ Eleganza II
>> Allentown, NJ
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> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260428 is a reply to message #260418] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 08:02 |
Jim at the Co-op
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If the hardware is good is good (compressor and all working) Emery hit it
on the head, you must have a good 1/2" gap between the frame and body for
not only those delicate air lines but also the fuel, brake and even the LP
lines. They all use that gap to run back and forth.
Not only putting newer and better body pads in will very likely solve this
issue but it wall also help so many other things doing it is a kinda no
brainer.
Let me say this though about the EL-II system, there are no "new"
replacement parts for the system-- electronic height sensors are gone and
so is the compressor with the dump valve, regulator and expansion tank
built together. Any issues other than maybe a crushed hos would call for a
complete new air delivery system. There are a couple to choose from, what
ever works for you.
I'm doing a 78 retrofit today at the shop, I'll try and take pics. I know
the past couple of days I have said "we're doing that now" a bunch. Not
meaning to insert myself but we in fact are doing the couple of things here
lately we have been talking about here. Please excuse for bringing it up
so much,
As far as the brake master cylinder goes, get a new one, that could also
fight off so many other things in that system hey-- why not. If it's been
in there so long that the cap has rusted, give the whole thing a gold
watch... what I would do...
Jim Bounds
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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
> You might find that the air line is crushed flat where it goes over the
> frame. This happened to me a few years ago and I had to replace the pads
> that go between the frame and body and splice in a new section of airline.
>
> Emery Stira
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 11:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>
>> Question #1:
>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>
>> Question #2:
>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>
>> Dan
>> 78’ Eleganza II
>> Allentown, NJ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260429 is a reply to message #260427] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 08:13 |
Jim at the Co-op
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Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the system
would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads will
not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so many
original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
Jim Bounds
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure
> when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>
> Dan.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>>
>> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>
>>> Question #1:
>>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>
>>> Question #2:
>>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> 78’ Eleganza II
>>> Allentown, NJ
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Ray Erspamer
>> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>> 414-484-9431
>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260432 is a reply to message #260429] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 08:42 |
Daniel DeLuca
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Jim,
The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
Dan
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds wrote:
>
> Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the system
> would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads will
> not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so many
> original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>
> Jim Bounds
>
>
>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>
>> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure
>> when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>>>
>>> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>>
>>>> Question #1:
>>>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
>> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
>> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
>> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>>
>>>> Question #2:
>>>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
>> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> Allentown, NJ
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ray Erspamer
>>> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>> 414-484-9431
>>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260433 is a reply to message #260432] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 09:00 |
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Do you have shut-off valves at the airbags? The levers have to be parallel to the air lines for bags to inflate/deflate.
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> From: dandeluca@me.com
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:42:46 -0400
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>
> Jim,
>
> The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the system
>> would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads will
>> not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so many
>> original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>>
>> Jim Bounds
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure
>>> when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>>
>>> Dan.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>>> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>>> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>>> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>>> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>>
>>>> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>> >
>>>> > Question #1:
>>>> > One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
>>> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
>>> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>>> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
>>> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>> >
>>>> > Question #2:
>>>> > A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>>> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
>>> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan
>>>> > 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> > Allentown, NJ
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ray Erspamer
>>>> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>>> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>>> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>>> 414-484-9431
>>>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260435 is a reply to message #260403] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 09:16 |
Steve
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Dan,
I had a similar problem and it turned out to be very simple. The stem in the Schrader valve was bad. Just had to screw out the old one and screw in the new one. If taking the stem out, make sure the coach is properly blocked up under the bogies as it will come down quickly when the stem is removed.
Ken Frey suggested that I check this before digging deeper. Fortunately that was my problem. Might be worth a try.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260436 is a reply to message #260433] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 09:11 |
Daniel DeLuca
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Unfortunately no shut off valves or shrader valves at the bags, seems stock other than the lights the PO installed to indicate which compressed is on at the dash.
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> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:00 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
>
> Do you have shut-off valves at the airbags? The levers have to be parallel to the air lines for bags to inflate/deflate.
>
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>> From: dandeluca@me.com
>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:42:46 -0400
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the system
>>> would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads will
>>> not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so many
>>> original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>>>
>>> Jim Bounds
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure
>>>> when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>>>
>>>> Dan.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>>> > stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>>> > my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>>> > nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>>> > bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> Hello,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Question #1:
>>>> >> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
>>>> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
>>>> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>>>> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
>>>> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Question #2:
>>>> >> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>>>> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
>>>> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dan
>>>> >> 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> >> Allentown, NJ
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>>>> >
>>>> > --
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>>>> > 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>>> > Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>>> > Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>>> > Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>>> > 414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260437 is a reply to message #260436] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 09:21 |
James Hupy
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Follow the blue and Grey air lines from the compressors to the bags. There
are some EL II systems out there that have been tampered with by well
meaning p.o.'s. There are some nifty little in-line air valves that work
like a union coupler. I know, I have them on my coach and they are
definitely not factory. Hidden in the compressor cabinet, they are
difficult to find. Don't ask me how I know this.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 29, 2014 7:11 AM, "Daniel DeLuca" wrote:
> Unfortunately no shut off valves or shrader valves at the bags, seems
> stock other than the lights the PO installed to indicate which compressed
> is on at the dash.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:00 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have shut-off valves at the airbags? The levers have to be
> parallel to the air lines for bags to inflate/deflate.
>>
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>>> From: dandeluca@me.com
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:42:46 -0400
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when
> I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air
> is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not
> the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the
> system
>>>> would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads
> will
>>>> not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so
> many
>>>> original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Bounds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca
> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the
> pressure
>>>> > when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer
> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>>> >> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>>> >> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>>> >> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>>> >> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Question #1:
>>>> >>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running
> for
>>>> > a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level
> 2
>>>> > system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>>>> > cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is
> not
>>>> > inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Question #2:
>>>> >>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>>>> > cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid
> for
>>>> > the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Dan
>>>> >>> 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> >>> Allentown, NJ
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>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Ray Erspamer
>>>> >> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>>> >> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>>> >> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>>> >> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>>> >> 414-484-9431
>>>> >> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260451 is a reply to message #260427] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 11:25 |
Dave Mumert
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Hi Dan
There is a hold solenoid between the compressor and the air bag. It is activated when the center switch is in the 'Travel/Auto' mode, or when you press 'Raise' or 'Lower' on the other switches.
You should be able to hear and probably feel the solenoid operate when the switch is moved from HOLD to AUTO.
You may need to disconnect the wires to both solenoids and then connect the right one by itself to hear it click.
I have heard the airlines on these solenoids were connected backwards when the factory installed them. The arrow on the valve points to the low pressure port. It is obvious the low pressure port is the air bag and the high pressure port is the compressor, right? BUT the valve is to hold the pressure in the air bag when the valve in the compressor leaks down, so the high pressure side is the air bag. When the high pressure is on the proper port (tail of the arrow) it tends to force the valve shut, when you put high pressure on the wrong port it tries to force valve open. The valve in the head of the compressor is pushed off its seat by the pressure in the system, hence the need for an extra hold valve. I've checked more than a dozen of these compressors, most of them leak down to about 50 psi. some will pump up to 150 psi.
Dave Mumert
’76 Eleganza II
Alberta, CA
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>
> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>
> Dan.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260453 is a reply to message #260436] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 11:41 |
Ray Erspamer
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In regards to the comments on the body pads. I put in new body pads 3
years ago, first ride out my wife couldn't believe how much quieter
the coach was and how much smoother it was. The new body pads made a
tremendous difference, well worth doing.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Unfortunately no shut off valves or shrader valves at the bags, seems stock other than the lights the PO installed to indicate which compressed is on at the dash.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:00 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
>>
>> Do you have shut-off valves at the airbags? The levers have to be parallel to the air lines for bags to inflate/deflate.
>>
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
>> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
>> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
>> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
>> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ______________
>> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
>> *--OO--[]---O-*
>>
>>
>>> From: dandeluca@me.com
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:42:46 -0400
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the system
>>>> would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body pads will
>>>> not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so many
>>>> original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Bounds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the pressure
>>>> > when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dan.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>>> >> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>>> >> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>>> >> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>>> >> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Question #1:
>>>> >>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for
>>>> > a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2
>>>> > system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>>>> > cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not
>>>> > inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Question #2:
>>>> >>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>>>> > cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for
>>>> > the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Dan
>>>> >>> 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> >>> Allentown, NJ
>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> >>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> >>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Ray Erspamer
>>>> >> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>>> >> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>>> >> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>>> >> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>>> >> 414-484-9431
>>>> >> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>>
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Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
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403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260457 is a reply to message #260453] |
Fri, 29 August 2014 12:28 |
Jim at the Co-op
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The solenoid for down is in the head of the compressor. The solenoid next
to the compressor is the "hold" solenoid. Could be that but do the body
pads and solve many issues then see what you have. You didn't waste time
of $, now if that does not do it checkout the solenoid. if you do the
solenoid first and it fixes you will not do the body pads now but in that
it's such an improvement you cannot justify it and your life will go on
without that better ride. Hey, human nature..... Do the body pads, it's a
good $50 investment....
Jim bounds
--------------------------
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ray Erspamer
wrote:
> In regards to the comments on the body pads. I put in new body pads 3
> years ago, first ride out my wife couldn't believe how much quieter
> the coach was and how much smoother it was. The new body pads made a
> tremendous difference, well worth doing.
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>> Unfortunately no shut off valves or shrader valves at the bags, seems
> stock other than the lights the PO installed to indicate which compressed
> is on at the dash.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:00 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have shut-off valves at the airbags? The levers have to be
> parallel to the air lines for bags to inflate/deflate.
>>>
>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
>>> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
>>> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
>>> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
>>> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
>>> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
>>> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
>>> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>> ______________
>>> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
>>> *--OO--[]---O-*
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: dandeluca@me.com
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:42:46 -0400
>>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> The bag does not inflate or deflate. The gauge goes up above 120, when
> I hit deflate I hear a hiss from the cabinet and the gauge drops. The air
> is trapped somewhere before the bag. It is my educated guess that it's not
> the valve, but I really don't know how to check it.....
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Jim Bounds
> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Interesting, I had thought if the air line were totally crushed the
> system
>>>> > would not allow the bag to inflate or deflate. May do that, body
> pads will
>>>> > not hurt and it may totally solve your issue but really there are so
> many
>>>> > original things going on there, replacing some stuff can never hurt.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jim Bounds
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Daniel DeLuca
> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have a feeling the line is crushed as the valve releases the
> pressure
>>>> >> when I hit lower. Looks like it is right up on the jack stands.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dan.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Ray Erspamer
> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You could also check two other items. Is one of the solenoid valves
>>>> >>> stuck OR, did the previous owner put valves at the bags. When I got
>>>> >>> my coach out of storage last year I couldn't get it to raise up for
>>>> >>> nothing and then the light went on....I had closed the valves at my
>>>> >>> bags when I put it into storage. Another case of CRS.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Daniel DeLuca
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hello,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Question #1:
>>>> >>>> One side of my leveling system is working well the other is
> running for
>>>> >> a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro
> level 2
>>>> >> system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the
>>>> >> cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is
> not
>>>> >> inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Question #2:
>>>> >>>> A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master
>>>> >> cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new
> lid for
>>>> >> the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Dan
>>>> >>>> 78’ Eleganza II
>>>> >>>> Allentown, NJ
>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> >>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> Ray Erspamer
>>>> >>> 78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
>>>> >>> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
>>>> >>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>>>> >>> Email: 78GMCRoyale@gmail.com
>>>> >>> 414-484-9431
>>>> >>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>>>
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> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260761 is a reply to message #260457] |
Tue, 02 September 2014 20:26 |
Dan
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Hello All,
Just an update to help out any lurkers using the forum as a reference. I was able to track down the pinched air line. Turns out it was pinched when I put back up the gas tank. Completely my own doing. All I had to do was loosen the bolts and reroute the tubing for a temporary fix. I will need to splice in a new hose for something more reliable, but for now the air leveling system is working as it should.
Anyone looking for a Master Cylinder gasket I believe Dorman 42071 is what you are looking for, but it turns out I have much bigger problems then a weepy gasket when it comes to my brakes, but thats for a new thread.
Dan
78 Eleganza II
Allentown NJ
Dan DeLuca
1978 Eleganza II (http://imgur.com/gallery/YFHhK)
Parked at Evil Monkey Farm in
Allentown, New Jersey
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260940 is a reply to message #260403] |
Thu, 04 September 2014 23:23 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Daniel DeLuca wrote on Thu, 28 August 2014 21:13Hello,
After two months the coach is off jack stands for the first time.
Question #1:
One side of my leveling system is working well the other is running for a few seconds and turning off (right side). I have the electro level 2 system with two compressors. The system has pressure gauges in the cabinet, the one for the right side shoots up to 120, but the bag is not inflating. Any common places where the air could get hung up?
Question #2:
A little bit of brake fluid is weeping from the top of the master cylinder when I stomp on the brakes. Is there a way to buy a new lid for the master cylinder? Any tricks to sure up the seal?
Dan
78' Eleganza II
Allentown, NJ
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These systems were the most simple of all of them and there is only one pressure line per side. If the bag is not inflating, the hose is either pinched between the body and frame, or someone has installed a shutoff valve at the bag.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Two Questions -- Electro-Level II and Brakes [message #260941 is a reply to message #260428] |
Thu, 04 September 2014 23:28 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Used parts for the EL ll system are readily available. The compressors were used on millions of GM cars with self leveling and the most recent ones are on GM minivans before they were discontinued. The electronic sensors are still easily found in the pick and pulls unless you live in the extreme rust belts. It is an extremely reliable system and other than the switches getting corroded, there is little to go wrong.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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