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kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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In yet another project I'm going to try and get done before Wisconsin, I purchased a Progressive Dynamics automatic transfer switch. (auto switches over from house to generator power without having to move the plug) Looks very simple to install. The only question is where to put it?

It's not that big (8 x 10 x 5.5") but it won't fit in the electrical cabinet. My cabinet already has a PD AC/DC converter and a nice 12V distribution panel and is pretty well filled up.

So you folks with GMC coaches (not transmodes), where have you put yours?


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L

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Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259888 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 24 August 2014 06:01
In yet another project I'm going to try and get done before Wisconsin, I purchased a Progressive Dynamics automatic transfer switch. (auto switches over from house to generator power without having to move the plug) Looks very simple to install. The only question is where to put it?

It's not that big (8 x 10 x 5.5") but it won't fit in the electrical cabinet. My cabinet already has a PD AC/DC converter and a nice 12V distribution panel and is pretty well filled up.

So you folks with GMC coaches (not transmodes), where have you put yours?

I put a new breaker panel in my coach during the remodel. Found that under that panel cover there was actually a lot of room in there. So, I moved things around a bit, pulled the ATS out of the metal box it came in and installed the ATS in the panel below all of the breakers. I think I have pics somewhere. If you want to see them, I'll look for them later in the day.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259890 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also noticed there was a lot of extra space in the box. I thought about doing the same thing. If you have the photo it would be nice to see.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259892 is a reply to message #259890] Sun, 24 August 2014 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The one in my 77 royale is on the rearward wall of the Onan box where the shore power cord is stored.

Todd Sullivan

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77 royale
Seattle

> On Aug 24, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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> I also noticed there was a lot of extra space in the box. I thought about doing the same thing. If you have the photo it would be nice to see.
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Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259895 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 24 August 2014 07:01
In yet another project I'm going to try and get done before Wisconsin, I purchased a Progressive Dynamics automatic transfer switch. (auto switches over from house to generator power without having to move the plug) Looks very simple to install. The only question is where to put it?

It's not that big (8 x 10 x 5.5") but it won't fit in the electrical cabinet. My cabinet already has a PD AC/DC converter and a nice 12V distribution panel and is pretty well filled up.

So you folks with GMC coaches (not transmodes), where have you put yours?

Your 12v distribution panel must be pretty big to not allow enough space for a generator transfer switch. Mine is on the back wall behind the 120 volt panel.

http://www.palmbeachgmc.com/gmc/gmc_images/electricalcompartment3.jpg


Richard
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Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259900 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just got mine all connected up yesterday. I put the transfer switch in the external box with the cord. That way I could connect the shore power cord and a short plug to the generator plug. It is a tight fit with the cord in there. Then I put the Progressive Industries EMS (Electrical Management System) on the interior wall of the shore power cabinet under the bathroom counter. The final piece was the Progressive Dynamics power distribution center which is temporarily under the sink. I am not ready to rewire everything to get it to a better place. That will be part of a later remodel. I am very happy with the setup except for the constant relay hum. Smile

Good luck with your project.


Mike Sauer Toledo, OR 1975 26' Avion 1-ton front end, SullyBilt AirBag System, 3.21 tranny
Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259904 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My beloved PO redid most of the systems in my coach, and put the electrical box and major components under the bed platform he added. Here's a photo of the bed flipped up, showing the storage, and the pull-out drawer. Really ingenious...

http://www.habcycles.com/underbedsm.jpg

http://www.habcycles.com/underbedsm.jpg

Behind the pull-out drawer, from left to right is the breaker box, the generator termination, and the inverter (that I added). The autoswitch doesn't show, but is mounted near the inverter on the floor. The only drawback to this approach is that you end up with some pretty long cables to power the inverter and other 12VDC loads, but that was fixed easily enough with some 1/0 and 2/0 copper cables. I really like this arrangement because it puts everything where it's easy enough to get to (by pulling out the drawer and crawling into the space under the bed). It's also a pretty good spot to hide stuff (note the two latches on the platform - push those in and it feels like the bed platform is permanent).

Every coach seems to be different, and mine is one of the "most different"... I'm really not sure many times as to whether I'm looking at GMC's work or someone else's. But whoever did this one got it right!


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: [GMCnet] Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259905 is a reply to message #259900] Sun, 24 August 2014 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I have a side dry bath 78 Royale up fitted by Coachman (Jimmy
Industries) It came with fore and aft rear beds with hanging bunks above
with a built in cabinet between them at the rear. The base of the cabinet
housed the 120 volt circuit breakers, the buzz box, and the 12 volt fuses
for the house circuits. Busy place. There are also plumbing drain valves
located there. After the old buzz box boiled all the water out of my T-105
Trojan deep cycles for the last time, I undertook a quest to update that
"STUFF" in there. First, out came the Buzz Box. Man is that thing heavy. In
went the PD 60 amp converter. Smaller, lighter, taper charges the
batteries, QUIET. Good upgrade. All new heavier cables. Then, a crosswise
queen size bed. Great upgrade, but hard to access the utilities. When the
generator is used, had to tear up the bed to switch the toggle breaker. Not
Good. Then lastly, automatic 50 amp transfer switch. It has a 20 second
delay circuit on the generator side to allow the volts to stabilize before
it switches. Great improvement. No more tearing the bed up to run the
generator. Happy wife. BIG IMPROVEMENT ANYTIME. Anyway, it all fits in the
space where the cabinet was.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
On Aug 24, 2014 8:31 AM, "Mike Sauer" wrote:

> Just got mine all connected up yesterday. I put the transfer switch in
> the external box with the cord. That way I could connect the shore power
> cord
> and a short plug to the generator plug. It is a tight fit with the cord in
> there. Then I put the Progressive Industries EMS (Electrical Management
> System) on the interior wall of the shore power cabinet under the bathroom
> counter. The final piece was the Progressive Dynamics power distribution
> center which is temporarily under the sink. I am not ready to rewire
> everything to get it to a better place. That will be part of a later
> remodel. I
> am very happy with the setup except for the constant relay hum. :)
>
> Good luck with your project.
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> Toledo, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259922 is a reply to message #259905] Sun, 24 August 2014 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My automatic transfer switch is mounted on the aft wall of the closet, which is between the electrical panel and the generator compartment. Doesn't take up much room and doesn't interfere with hanging clothes.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM
Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259923 is a reply to message #259884] Sun, 24 August 2014 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 24 August 2014 06:01
In yet another project I'm going to try and get done before Wisconsin, I purchased a Progressive Dynamics automatic transfer switch. (auto switches over from house to generator power without having to move the plug) Looks very simple to install. The only question is where to put it?

It's not that big (8 x 10 x 5.5") but it won't fit in the electrical cabinet. My cabinet already has a PD AC/DC converter and a nice 12V distribution panel and is pretty well filled up.

So you folks with GMC coaches (not transmodes), where have you put yours?

I have a GMC 26' standard wet bath layout. I put my transfer switch behind the close wall (the part that slant upward). Fairly easy to take that part of the wall out. There is a lot of room behind the wall and it is right next to the electrical access box where the cord is stored as well as the electrical panel so it makes it fairly easy to make the hookups.

Love the transfer switch except for the hum when on 20 or 30 amp service. Doesn't seem to hum when hooked up to 50 amp service. I sent the first PD switch back but the replacement had the same hum. My buddy, George, put one on his coach and no hum (I think his was an Iota which is now discontinued).


Randy & Margie
'77 Eleganza II '403'
Battlefield, MO
Re: Mounting an automatic transfer switch [message #259959 is a reply to message #259890] Sun, 24 August 2014 20:21 Go to previous message
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 24 August 2014 08:17
I also noticed there was a lot of extra space in the box. I thought about doing the same thing. If you have the photo it would be nice to see.

Kerry,
A couple of pics of the outside of the panel and with the cover off.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6666-120v-panel-with-ats.html

HTH


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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