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Wed, 20 August 2014 11:12

Otterwan

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A buddy of mine has been on a trip and just called to say he had a bit of an accident, bent a rim and the right rear control arm. I have one that I can send him but I'd have to pull it from the coach after work today, so in the interest of time I thought I'd see if anyone had one off and ready to go. Last I heard he was in Colorado.

That's all the information I have right now. I know the arms are easy to straighten but I got the impression that wasn't an option. Please PM me or reply here. Thanks - Dave

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259466 is a reply to message #259462]

Wed, 20 August 2014 11:47

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Otterwan wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 12:12

A buddy of mine has been on a trip and just called to say he had a bit of an accident, bent a rim and the right rear control arm. I have one that I can send him but I'd have to pull it from the coach after work today, so in the interest of time I thought I'd see if anyone had one off and ready to go. Last I heard he was in Colorado.

That's all the information I have right now. I know the arms are easy to straighten but I got the impression that wasn't an option. Please PM me or reply here. Thanks - Dave

Problem Dave...
'73~4 use a 1" pin and later use a 1-1/4" pin. (This may be inaccurate, but it is at least close.)
Better find out which he needs.
Matt

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259468 is a reply to message #259466]

Wed, 20 August 2014 12:04

Otterwan

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As I recall he has a newer coach, but I will find out next time I talk to him.

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259481 is a reply to message #259468]

Wed, 20 August 2014 13:31

Otterwan

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Update: He's now at an Perry's RV Park in Red Lodge MT. He's having a hard time finding anyone willing to try to straighten the bogie arm. Anyone nearby that can help? Address is:

6664 US Hwy. 212, Red Lodge MT, 50968.

http://www.perrysrv.us/

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259488 is a reply to message #259481]

Wed, 20 August 2014 14:38

C Boyd

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maybe send him a care package.
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-ton-super-heavy-duty-portable-hydraulic-euipment-kit-60406.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-ton-hydraulic-short-body-ram-95979.html

Otterwan wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 14:31

Update: He's now at an Perry's RV Park in Red Lodge MT. He's having a hard time finding anyone willing to try to straighten the bogie arm. Anyone nearby that can help? Address is:

6664 US Hwy. 212, Red Lodge MT, 50968.

http://www.perrysrv.us/

C. Boyd
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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259492 is a reply to message #259481]

Wed, 20 August 2014 15:41

A Hamilto

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Otterwan wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 13:31

Update: He's now at an Perry's RV Park in Red Lodge MT. He's having a hard time finding anyone willing to try to straighten the bogie arm.
Anyone nearby that can help? Address is:

6664 US Hwy. 212, Red Lodge MT, 50968.

Blacklist says Owen Johnson is 60 miles away in Billings.

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Wed, 20 August 2014 15:52

A Hamilto

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I think at one time, Jim K had "the" straightening jig, and could ship it where needed. But he could probably ship an arm at least as fast.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tools/p26109-rear-suspension-straightener.html

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259495 is a reply to message #259462]

Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00

midlf

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I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?

Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259496 is a reply to message #259495]

Wed, 20 August 2014 16:06

A Hamilto

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midlf wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00

I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?

Getting near a big tree and pulling it out with a come-along might work if there is no room to get a jack and some re-inforcement between the frame and the arm. Do they have trees in MT?

Then, if it is twisted, the spindle could be shimmed to get caster, camber, and toe close enough to be able to get someplace where permanent repairs could be effected.

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Re: GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259514 is a reply to message #259495]

Wed, 20 August 2014 18:56

Ken Burton

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midlf wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00

I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?

Both are a big job, especially if done on the road. I would be straightening the original one if possible with a porta power or other device if possible. We have not seen the damage. It is a 1/2 hour job. At one GMCMI rally someone showed up with a screw device and we were straitening bogies for people. None took more than 1/2 hour.

The toe in (and out) is the important thing. Caster does not exist on a rear wheel. Camber should be zero but being off a little bit will not hurt anything and could be corrected if necessary several thousand miles later.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259519 is a reply to message #259514]

Wed, 20 August 2014 19:09

emerystora

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The person that made the small screw device was Dale Ropp of Marysville, MI. I believe he did that at the Pueblo GMCMI convention.
Emery Stora

On Aug 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

> midlf wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00
>> I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?
>
>
>
> Both are a big job, especially if done on the road. I would be straightening the original one if possible with a porta power or other device if
> possible. We have not seen the damage. It is a 1/2 hour job. At one GMCMI rally someone showed up with a screw device and we were straitening
> bogies for people. None took more than 1/2 hour.
>
> The toe in (and out) is the important thing. Caster does not exist on a rear wheel. Camber should be zero but being off a little bit will not hurt
> anything and could be corrected if necessary several thousand miles later.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259521 is a reply to message #259514]

Wed, 20 August 2014 19:19

Ken Henderson

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This looks like another breakdown between the Phorum and GMCNet -- I've
seen nothing of any previous exchange. Having had a badly bent suspension
arm on the road, it piques my interest.

Ken H.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

> midlf wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00
>> I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire
> bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?
>
>
>
> Both are a big job, especially if done on the road. I would be
> straightening the original one if possible with a porta power or other
> device if
> possible. We have not seen the damage. It is a 1/2 hour job. At one
> GMCMI rally someone showed up with a screw device and we were straitening
> bogies for people. None took more than 1/2 hour.
>
> The toe in (and out) is the important thing. Caster does not exist on a
> rear wheel. Camber should be zero but being off a little bit will not
> hurt
> anything and could be corrected if necessary several thousand miles later.
> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259523 is a reply to message #259521]

Wed, 20 August 2014 19:40

A Hamilto

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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:19

This looks like another breakdown between the Phorum and GMCNet -- I've seen nothing of any previous exchange. Having had a badly bent suspension arm on the road, it piques my interest.

Ken H.

Still not resolved. He is in Perry's RV Park in Red Lodge, MT.

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259525 is a reply to message #259519]

Wed, 20 August 2014 20:00

Ken Burton

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emerystora wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:09

The person that made the small screw device was Dale Ropp of Marysville, MI. I believe he did that at the Pueblo GMCMI convention.
Emery Stora

I remember it as Rapid City, but I could be wrong.

Something like that tool would be ideal for use on the road.
The big problem we have here is we have no idea what damage he really has on this coach.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259526 is a reply to message #259525]

Wed, 20 August 2014 20:06

emerystora

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Yes. You are right. It was Rapid City. I now recall he had to work in the maintenance area behind the concrete road dividers.

Emery Stora

> On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>
> emerystora wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:09
>> The person that made the small screw device was Dale Ropp of Marysville, MI. I believe he did that at the Pueblo GMCMI convention.
>> Emery Stora
>
> I remember it as Rapid City, but I could be wrong.
>
> Something like that tool would be ideal for use on the road.
> The big problem we have here is we have no idea what damage he really has on this coach.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259529 is a reply to message #259519]

Wed, 20 August 2014 20:43

wally

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emerystora wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:09

The person that made the small screw device was Dale Ropp of Marysville, MI. I believe he did that at the Pueblo GMCMI convention.
Emery Stora

On Aug 20, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

> midlf wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 16:00
>> I've no idea if this is a valid idea but: Would replacing the entire bogie assembly be easier than just replacing one arm?
>
>
>
> Both are a big job, especially if done on the road. I would be straightening the original one if possible with a porta power or other device if
> possible. We have not seen the damage. It is a 1/2 hour job. At one GMCMI rally someone showed up with a screw device and we were straitening
> bogies for people. None took more than 1/2 hour.
>
> The toe in (and out) is the important thing. Caster does not exist on a rear wheel. Camber should be zero but being off a little bit will not hurt
> anything and could be corrected if necessary several thousand miles later.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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I made a tool using Dale Ropp's insructions. It looks like this and it does work.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4519-bogie-pusher.html
I could send it??

Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259533 is a reply to message #259529]

Wed, 20 August 2014 20:55

peter bailey

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Wally,
Sending your tool is the perfect answer providing the arm is recoverable. Well done Wally!
It is not a tool that you would need to use frequently so while it was gone you would not miss it.
Even if you yourself had a miss hap with your own bogie arms (what would be the odds) it would just be a case of shipping it back immediately.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)

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Wed, 20 August 2014 21:01

peter bailey

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Wally,
It might be advantageous for Dave,s friend that is held up at the RV park that you give the park a call (phone number is shown on a sign on the web site that Dave has shown as a contact) and give the information required for the person to get back to you to take advantage of your great offer.
Peter Bailey
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259551 is a reply to message #259521]

Wed, 20 August 2014 22:36

Ken Burton

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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:19

This looks like another breakdown between the Phorum and GMCNet -- I've
seen nothing of any previous exchange. Having had a badly bent suspension
arm on the road, it piques my interest.

Ken H.

There have been 18 postings to this thread. Only two were from emailers. You and Emery (two).

If you want to see the thread from the beginning, go here: (I think)

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=tree&th=31936&unread=1&rid=12#page_top

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] GMCer on road needs right rear control arm [message #259553 is a reply to message #259551]

Wed, 20 August 2014 22:51

Ken Henderson

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Thanks, Ken.

Gosh what a PITA to read all those on that system: Open each in the list,
then scroll back up to the text area, read a couple of lines, then back
down to, hopefully, the next item in the list, then scroll back up, etc.,
etc.

In GMail, they all line up nice and neatly, in order, displaying only the
text (with hidden quotes if any). Just like reading scrolls (In deference
to those who think we emailers are antiquarians, I started to say 'Dead Sea
Scrolls"). :-)

Ken H.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

> Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 19:19
>> This looks like another breakdown between the Phorum and GMCNet -- I've
>> seen nothing of any previous exchange. Having had a badly bent
> suspension
>> arm on the road, it piques my interest.
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> There have been 18 postings to this thread. Only two were from emailers.
> You and Emery (two).
>
> If you want to see the thread from the beginning, go here: (I think)
>
>
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=tree&th=31936&unread=1&rid=12#page_top
>
>
>
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