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Behind Glove Box [message #259166] Sun, 17 August 2014 19:30 Go to next message
Dave NJ   United States
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Hi,

Today I started removing the cockpit elements. This is the last part of the interior that needs to be removed. I removed the cockpit side panels and the passenger seat and base. The plywood under the side panels is rotten from water damage. There was one mouse nest around the gas pipe behind the drivers side panel. There was a giant mouse nest in the front dash passenger corner that was exposed when I removed the passenger side panel. The entire passenger corner section was filled with nesting material.

The top plastic roof of the cockpit came down pretty easily and I was able to remove without any damage. It should cleanup nice.

My question is that behind the glove box in the lower corner is an opening I assume into the blower box. Should there be a cover plate over that opening?

Half of the opening is behind the glove box and half is below in the passenger floor area which is covered by a small wire grate.
Should there be any opening on the passenger floor?

[url=http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG]http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG[url]

Dave NJ


Dave Curtiss Mahwah NJ 1977 ex-Palm Beach now "Jersey Ltd. Edition" Cad 500, Quad Bags
Re: [GMCnet] Behind Glove Box [message #259169 is a reply to message #259166] Sun, 17 August 2014 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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David,

Since I have a '76 vs your '77. this may not be applicable and I can't open
the URL to verify that. But it sounds as if you're talking about the
passenger's foot heat outlet. Look under the right front hood and you
should see the plastic duct which feeds that outlet. The grill isn't familiar
though -- every one I've seen is just a bare hole, so there may have been
some PO tampering (maybe thinking he was excluding those mice?).

Ken H.

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:31 PM, David Curtiss wrote:

>
> My question is that behind the glove box in the lower corner is an opening
> I assume into the blower box. Should there be a cover plate over that
> opening?
>
> Half of the opening is behind the glove box and half is below in the
> passenger floor area which is covered by a small wire grate.
> Should there be any opening on the passenger floor?
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG][url]
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Behind Glove Box [message #259192 is a reply to message #259169] Sun, 17 August 2014 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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On Sunday, August 17, 2014, Ken Henderson wrote:

> David,
>
> Since I have a '76 vs your '77. this may not be applicable and I can't open
> the URL to verify that. But it sounds as if you're talking about the
> passenger's foot heat outlet. Look under the right front hood and you
> should see the plastic duct which feeds that outlet. The grill isn't
> familiar
> though -- every one I've seen is just a bare hole, so there may have been
> some PO tampering (maybe thinking he was excluding those mice?).
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:31 PM, David Curtiss > wrote:
>
>>
>> My question is that behind the glove box in the lower corner is an
> opening
>> I assume into the blower box. Should there be a cover plate over that
>> opening?
>>
>> Half of the opening is behind the glove box and half is below in the
>> passenger floor area which is covered by a small wire grate.
>> Should there be any opening on the passenger floor?
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG][url]
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Behind Glove Box [message #259200 is a reply to message #259192] Sun, 17 August 2014 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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My mistake. There IS a difference between the '76 and the '77. That
opening is for return air to the HVAC. That opens into the plenum from
which the fan draws air to blow though the rest of the system. It does
look like a PO added some hardware cloth over part of it.

That opening is one that modifiers of '76 and earlier coaches must create
to enable their HVACs to use recirculated air rather than only outside air.


Ken H.

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:57 PM, gene Fisher wrote:

> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Since I have a '76 vs your '77. this may not be applicable and I can't
> open
>> the URL to verify that. But it sounds as if you're talking about the
>> passenger's foot heat outlet. Look under the right front hood and you
>> should see the plastic duct which feeds that outlet. The grill isn't
>> familiar
>> though -- every one I've seen is just a bare hole, so there may have
> been
>> some PO tampering (maybe thinking he was excluding those mice?).
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:31 PM, David Curtiss > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My question is that behind the glove box in the lower corner is an
>> opening
>>> I assume into the blower box. Should there be a cover plate over that
>>> opening?
>>>
>>> Half of the opening is behind the glove box and half is below in the
>>> passenger floor area which is covered by a small wire grate.
>>> Should there be any opening on the passenger floor?
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6658/medium/photo_114.JPG][url]
>>>
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Re: Behind Glove Box [message #259254 is a reply to message #259166] Mon, 18 August 2014 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave NJ   United States
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Thank you for the help in identifying the return. I was able to search some of the pictures of other coaches and see the difference in the a/c and heat system modifications for different years.

Dave NJ


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Re: [GMCnet] Behind Glove Box [message #259269 is a reply to message #259254] Mon, 18 August 2014 17:40 Go to previous message
Jim at the Co-op is currently offline  Jim at the Co-op   United States
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Unless there is an overwhelming reason, I would not remove the main plastic
dash panel. It's made of ABS plastic and after 30+ years of the sun it's
really brittle. The alternatives to replacing the panel are not that
exciting. I would leave the main dash in place & work around it. You can
refinish the panel in place with greated effectiveness than removing it
even if it did come out which I have never seen one come out well.

Please thing twice before removing it, think about what you ill put back
into the 3d front end and how it will trim out...

Jim Bounds
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:23 PM, David Curtiss wrote:

> Thank you for the help in identifying the return. I was able to search
> some of the pictures of other coaches and see the difference in the a/c and
> heat system modifications for different years.
>
> Dave NJ
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