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Sun, 17 August 2014 10:15  |
midlf
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Gonna get Zip Dee awnings installed on both sides. Since we are in striking range of the factory I plan to have them do the install. What should I look at or do before to ease the installation process?. Or is there anything I will wish I had done before the installation that I oughta do now?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: ZipDee installation [message #259147 is a reply to message #259108] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 16:19  |
midlf
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midlf wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 10:15Gonna get Zip Dee awnings installed on both sides. Since we are in striking range of the factory I plan to have them do the install. What should I look at or do before to ease the installation process?. Or is there anything I will wish I had done before the installation that I oughta do now?
Here are pictures of what I see that are part of what causes me to ask the above question. It just looks like there is not a lot of room up there for the awning.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6661-zipdee.html
OK - answered one of my questions here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6124-zipdee.html
clearance light will have to be moved.
The main question now is the refrigerator vent clearance.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259153 is a reply to message #259151] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 17:00 |
midlf
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USAussie wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 16:37Steve,
1) Make sure the installers put thin butyl rubber tape between the awning rail and the roof.
2) If the installers use pop rivets to attach the awning rail to the roof it would be better if they used sealed pop rivets.
3) When attaching the lower pivot points to the side of the GMC it would be best if they are attached to one of the frames /
bulkheads that go around the body.
4) If 3) is not possible then it would be a good idea to bond a piece of metal behind the body fiberglass to distribute the load.
5) If 3) or 4) are not possible then I would suggest these inserts from McMaster Carr:
1/4" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A393
5/16" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A427
6) When attaching the top pivot point items 3), 4), and 5) into consideration. The awning on Double Trouble was screwed into the
fiberglass using lag bolts.
7) Make sure they install the locking device on the driver side awning to keep high cross winds from blowing it open when heading
north across Wyoming. :>) BTDT!
Regards,
Rob M.
Geez Rob, I would think the factory would have all this covered. Now I'm starting to wonder if the installation will be what I would expect it to be. I guess I'm gonna have to ask a lot of questions.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259154 is a reply to message #259153] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 17:34 |
jimk
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Steve,
Zip Dee kit is lot better than the others.
What Rob mentioned is more of an suggestion and not that they are purposly
omite.
I will send a note to Jim Webb, President of Zip Dee.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Steve Southworth
wrote:
> USAussie wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 16:37
>> Steve,
>>
>> 1) Make sure the installers put thin butyl rubber tape between the
> awning rail and the roof.
>>
>> 2) If the installers use pop rivets to attach the awning rail to the
> roof it would be better if they used sealed pop rivets.
>>
>> 3) When attaching the lower pivot points to the side of the GMC it would
> be best if they are attached to one of the frames /
>> bulkheads that go around the body.
>>
>> 4) If 3) is not possible then it would be a good idea to bond a piece of
> metal behind the body fiberglass to distribute the load.
>>
>> 5) If 3) or 4) are not possible then I would suggest these inserts from
> McMaster Carr:
>>
>> 1/4" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A393
>>
>> 5/16" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A427
>>
>> 6) When attaching the top pivot point items 3), 4), and 5) into
> consideration. The awning on Double Trouble was screwed into the
>> fiberglass using lag bolts.
>>
>> 7) Make sure they install the locking device on the driver side awning
> to keep high cross winds from blowing it open when heading
>> north across Wyoming. :>) BTDT!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>
>
> Geez Rob, I would think the factory would have all this covered. Now I'm
> starting to wonder if the installation will be what I would expect it to be.
> I guess I'm gonna have to ask a lot of questions.
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259158 is a reply to message #259154] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 18:07 |
emerystora
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Steve
Don't worry about ZipDee not doing it right. They designed the GMC one so that the lower mounts will go into a frame member just behind the propane door and just in front of the large side window. The upper mounts also go into very secure areas so there should not be any concern on your part. In additio to lags or screws they also use a 1/4" pop rivet in each bracket to keep things from moving. The factory knows how to install them right. I am not sure if all of their dealers do though, so if you are having it done at the factory that is great.
The factory has been installing these since the 1973 GMCs came off the assembly line. The company founder, Henry Duda, designed the first one about 1965 for the curved Airstream travel trailer. It was easy to adapt this design to the GMC motorhome when it started in 1973. The name ZipDee came about because of Duda's name. The song, Zip-pa-dee doudah, was in the Walt Disney movie Song of the South.
I had met Henry Duda at an FMCA convention back in 1972 and I ordered a ZipDee for my Travco motorhome. I put one on my GMC when I bought it in 1981 and the brackets and arms and fabric have lasted for 33 years now.
Henry died in 1985 and the company is now run by his daughter and his son-in-law, Bob Miller. Bob still attends the FMCA conventions and I saw him at one a couple of years ago.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
On Aug 17, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Steve,
> Zip Dee kit is lot better than the others.
> What Rob mentioned is more of an suggestion and not that they are purposly
> omite.
> I will send a note to Jim Webb, President of Zip Dee.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Steve Southworth
> wrote:
>
>> USAussie wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 16:37
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> 1) Make sure the installers put thin butyl rubber tape between the
>> awning rail and the roof.
>>>
>>> 2) If the installers use pop rivets to attach the awning rail to the
>> roof it would be better if they used sealed pop rivets.
>>>
>>> 3) When attaching the lower pivot points to the side of the GMC it would
>> be best if they are attached to one of the frames /
>>> bulkheads that go around the body.
>>>
>>> 4) If 3) is not possible then it would be a good idea to bond a piece of
>> metal behind the body fiberglass to distribute the load.
>>>
>>> 5) If 3) or 4) are not possible then I would suggest these inserts from
>> McMaster Carr:
>>>
>>> 1/4" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A393
>>>
>>> 5/16" NC: http://www.mcmaster.com/#97217A427
>>>
>>> 6) When attaching the top pivot point items 3), 4), and 5) into
>> consideration. The awning on Double Trouble was screwed into the
>>> fiberglass using lag bolts.
>>>
>>> 7) Make sure they install the locking device on the driver side awning
>> to keep high cross winds from blowing it open when heading
>>> north across Wyoming. :>) BTDT!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob M.
>>
>>
>> Geez Rob, I would think the factory would have all this covered. Now I'm
>> starting to wonder if the installation will be what I would expect it to be.
>> I guess I'm gonna have to ask a lot of questions.
>> --
>> Steve Southworth
>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
>> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
>> Palmyra WI
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259174 is a reply to message #259151] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 20:54 |
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USAussie wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 16:37Steve,
1) Make sure the installers put thin butyl rubber tape between the awning rail and the roof.
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
How thin, 1/16", 1/8" or 3/16"?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: ZipDee installation [message #259182 is a reply to message #259108] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 21:29 |
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I installed a Used Zip Dee last year. I had a major part missing on my used awning, and had to get a piece direct from zip dee.(new slat, and what they term the "flex key") My experience with the correct people at zip dee is they know GMC's and they know their awning. If talking to them, and they do not instill you with 100% confidence, ask for someone else. I would not worry much about how they would install your awning. If you have to install it yourself, Call me up... I will offer my lessons learned, that are fresh in my head from last year. I do know to NOT follow the instructions you find online, or with the awning. Instructions for mounting can be discussed over a very short phone call.
The moving of the rear marker light, is a trick. something I could only really explain over the phone. do not pull on the wires!
as far as your question, the only other thing I can think of, would be making sure your rain gutter side rails are sealed and done for the long term. moving the zip dee aside to pull the rails to seal them, would be extra work on that job.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259189 is a reply to message #259183] |
Sun, 17 August 2014 21:43 |
jimk
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Forgot to mention that you'll ned o move the rear marker light .
It is simple, so we all forgot to mention it.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Hal Kading wrote:
> Steve,
>
> If you haven't removed and re-sealed the roof to side closure strips,
> prior to the new awning installation is a good time.
>
> Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] ZipDee installation [message #259222 is a reply to message #259174] |
Mon, 18 August 2014 08:20 |
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USAussie
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Steve,
I don't want to get into an argument here about installing awnings so I'll give you a call to explain why I provided all the details
in my first message,
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Southworth
How thin, 1/16", 1/8" or 3/16"?
Steve
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Sydney, Australia
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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