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Mon, 11 August 2014 16:59  |
midlf
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The CFO wants awnings so therefore we will get awnings. For sure ZipDee and for sure the long one on the right hand side of the coach. She will probably also want the left side large and kitchen. Any reason to get one for the left rear? If you have one there do you use it? Anyone ever put one on the rear window?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258520 is a reply to message #258519] |
Mon, 11 August 2014 17:51  |
midlf
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emerystora wrote on Mon, 11 August 2014 17:29
I think that Jim Kanomata is a dealer but you'd have to ship them from California.
When I got them I was in Michigan and drove to their factory at Elk Grove Village, IL. and they installed them for me. It is near O'Hare airport.
About a year ago I visited the factory to get some parts for my ZipDee chairs. They have plug ins and one can stay overnight in their lot.
Emery Stora
I know JimK is a dealer and I have a call into him. I'm 80 miles from them and thought I might save the shipping. If they install that would be even better. Too bad my sister moved from Elk Grove Village to WI last year.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258527 is a reply to message #258524] |
Mon, 11 August 2014 18:59 |
lotsofspareparts
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Jim Galbavy wrote on Mon, 11 August 2014 16:23Steve,
I have the same patio awning as Emery, but my awning on the driver's side covers
the driver's side window back to and covering the rear side window. Great buy.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Steve,
Same here, Zip-Dee patio awning on the door side and a Zip-Dee window awning that stretches the full length of the coach on the drivers side as well. Awesome awnings, one wouldn't necessarily think to do the full length on the drivers side but it really does cut down on the radiant heat through the windows and wall.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258554 is a reply to message #258534] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 00:20 |
jimk
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The other month we had a customer that wanted a LPG water heater on the
passenger side.
Made sense to me, but I happen to be speaking with Migule at MGM GMC and he
advised me against it as we tend to sit around the passener side, and the
heat from the flame would not be too welcome on a warm day.
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Rob Mueller
wrote:
> Steve,
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> Why not copy what Avion did and get a long one for both sides?
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Southworth
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> The CFO wants awnings so therefore we will get awnings. For sure ZipDee
> and for sure the long one on the right hand side of the
> coach. She will probably also want the left side large and kitchen. Any
> reason to get one for the left rear? If you have one
> there do you use it? Anyone ever put one on the rear window?
> --
> Steve
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| Re: awnings [message #258584 is a reply to message #258514] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 11:07 |
lqqkatjon
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Just my opinion that is generated from having no awning to going with a patio awning on the passenger side.
more awning coverage is better. anything to keep the heat away on these machines. awnings on all the windows if you can afford to.
One thing I love about my awning, is the ability to keep a side window open in the rain, for airflow. I cannot do that on the drivers side, when rain comes those windows have to stay closed.
Usually when the rain comes, it cools down a bit, I do not need the A/C unit running. but before the awning, with the rain coming, it was baton down the hatch mode, and the dampness/humidity stayed in the coach.
now i can drop a side of the awning down, let the rain roll off, and keep the side windows open all night to let the cool air flow through.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258592 is a reply to message #258587] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 13:09 |
Guy Lopes
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I'm with you Steve. I love the awning on KenH's GMC, but apparently they are
unobtainable now. I spoke with Jim B about a similar armless awning that he
had installed on a GMC, and after he told me the price it immediately
evaporated from my memory.
I WANT an awning on my 23' Birchaven, but I just don't want the arms of a
typical awning on the side of the coach.
I have even been thinking about securing aluminum eyes (4-6) along the top
of the roof above the drip rail, then having a custom light canvas/awning
material awning sewn together with brass snap hooks to attach to the roof.
Then using standard type poles and guy wires to secure the awning to the
ground. This idea doesn't thrill me, and isn't nearly as convenient as
cranking the awning away from the coach, but reflects the extent that I am
willing to go to stay away from arms. I'm wondering if anyone else has done
something similar.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Weinstock
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:37 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] awnings
While we're on the topic...
Any commentary and/or experience with "armless" awnings ??
I'm aware of the "group buy" from years ago..
Any newer success or horror stories ??
I'd sure like to put one on my 23 footer but don't like the arms folded
against the side of the coach.
Thanks,
Steve w
1973 23'
Southern california
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| Re: awnings [message #258596 is a reply to message #258584] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 13:44 |
Keith V
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lqqkatjon wrote on Tue, 12 August 2014 11:07Just my opinion that is generated from having no awning to going with a patio awning on the passenger side.
more awning coverage is better. anything to keep the heat away on these machines. awnings on all the windows if you can afford to.
One thing I love about my awning, is the ability to keep a side window open in the rain, for airflow. I cannot do that on the drivers side, when rain comes those windows have to stay closed.
Usually when the rain comes, it cools down a bit, I do not need the A/C unit running. but before the awning, with the rain coming, it was baton down the hatch mode, and the dampness/humidity stayed in the coach.
now i can drop a side of the awning down, let the rain roll off, and keep the side windows open all night to let the cool air flow through.
MY 2 cents...
Get a light colored awning. My coach came with a dark blue awning ( A&E ) great for the rain, but in the sun the thing was an oven. All the heat that the awning adsorbed was radiated back out the bottom. You couldn't sit under it on a hot day.
I replaced the fabric with a light silver covered one and it's so much better!
My A&E works, but if I had to buy one I'd pay for the ZIPDee
Now you guys got me wanting an awning on the drivers side!
Another reason to get a full length on the drivers side is sometimes due to camp layout you end up sitting on that side. Sure would be nice to have an awning 
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258598 is a reply to message #258592] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 13:43 |
Ken Henderson
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Y'All really ought to look into these:
http://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/carefree/products?action=product&productid=38&categoryid=36
They appear to be very similar to the Omnistor I, and a few other lucky
old-timers, have. Since Carefree buys a lot of their equipment (including
my Omnistor) from that Belgian company, I suspect this model is almost the
same as mine.
Ken H.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> I'm with you Steve. I love the awning on KenH's GMC, but apparently they
> are
> unobtainable now. I spoke with Jim B about a similar armless awning that
> he
> had installed on a GMC, and after he told me the price it immediately
> evaporated from my memory.
>
> I WANT an awning on my 23' Birchaven, but I just don't want the arms of a
> typical awning on the side of the coach.
>
> I have even been thinking about securing aluminum eyes (4-6) along the top
> of the roof above the drip rail, then having a custom light canvas/awning
> material awning sewn together with brass snap hooks to attach to the roof.
> Then using standard type poles and guy wires to secure the awning to the
> ground. This idea doesn't thrill me, and isn't nearly as convenient as
> cranking the awning away from the coach, but reflects the extent that I am
> willing to go to stay away from arms. I'm wondering if anyone else has
> done
> something similar.
>
> Guy Lopes
> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
> Sacramento, CA
> W6TOL
>
> www.GMC-Guy.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Weinstock
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:37 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] awnings
>
> While we're on the topic...
>
> Any commentary and/or experience with "armless" awnings ??
>
> I'm aware of the "group buy" from years ago..
>
> Any newer success or horror stories ??
>
> I'd sure like to put one on my 23 footer but don't like the arms folded
> against the side of the coach.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve w
> 1973 23'
> Southern california
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| Re: awnings [message #258602 is a reply to message #258514] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 14:46 |
lqqkatjon
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the max length of that carefree awning is 13 feet. so keep that in mind. I know my patio zip dee is 18 foot long, so would be a short awning.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258612 is a reply to message #258603] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 16:27 |
Ken Henderson
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I didn't notice the length limitation on the CofC. I don't recall the
length of mine, but 5M, or about 16' comes to mind; 13' would be a little
short.
Perhaps if everyone starts inquiring about longer ones, they'll import
those also -- I'm sure Omnistor makes them. The way it worked on our
orders was that CoC imported only the hardware, then fabricated and
installed US fabric. Apparently that eliminated a lot of customs duties --
and gave us access to the much wider range of materials offered over here.
Ken H.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> Good point. Ken, what is the length of yours on your 23'? It looks like
> yours goes from the front of the main cabin door opening to roughly the
> rear
> seam. I'll have to head to my storage to measure mine to see if that would
> work.
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258614 is a reply to message #258612] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 16:47 |
Guy Lopes
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Got it. Thanks Ken.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:27 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] awnings
I didn't notice the length limitation on the CofC. I don't recall the
length of mine, but 5M, or about 16' comes to mind; 13' would be a little
short.
Perhaps if everyone starts inquiring about longer ones, they'll import those
also -- I'm sure Omnistor makes them. The way it worked on our orders was
that CoC imported only the hardware, then fabricated and installed US
fabric. Apparently that eliminated a lot of customs duties -- and gave us
access to the much wider range of materials offered over here.
Ken H.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> Good point. Ken, what is the length of yours on your 23'? It looks
> like yours goes from the front of the main cabin door opening to
> roughly the rear seam. I'll have to head to my storage to measure mine
> to see if that would work.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258618 is a reply to message #258616] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 17:37 |
Olly Schmidt
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Interesting observation. My recently acquired Eleganza II does have one
of those regular (with arm) awnings, and I was thinking about getting
rid of it, and get some power assisted awning instead.
I guess I'll keep what I have. According to the PO, they never used the
awnings in their 34 years of owning the GMC. And the driver side awning
(which I unwound), does look as if it hasn't seen the sun in that amount
of time.
It *is* a bit cumbersome to roll-out the awning with the arm, but I
guess it does provide stability, which is nice.
--
Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
'76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] awnings [message #258619 is a reply to message #258618] |
Tue, 12 August 2014 17:47 |
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Take a look at the coach behind DT, that is how all of the other coaches was, maybe armless but not strapless 
The picture was taken just before all h*ll broke loose, notice my awning ?
1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green,
And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
in Norway
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