| [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #257999] |
Wed, 06 August 2014 18:48  |
Kingsley Coach
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Netters
Can I assume the fuel pump for the 403 is the same as the 455??
Thanks
Mike
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| Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #258018 is a reply to message #257999] |
Wed, 06 August 2014 23:13  |
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 06 August 2014 17:48Netters
Can I assume the fuel pump for the 403 is the same as the 455??
Thanks
Mike
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #258024 is a reply to message #258018] |
Thu, 07 August 2014 00:53 |
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Be sure to get the correct fuel pmup.
Do not assume that becuse your coach ha an air conditioner, that you need
the pump for that option as you will get a pump with 3 opening which is
incorrect.
The 3rd opening is to return the excess fuel back to the tank.
Most plug that opening with a rubber hose, which later deteriates and
sprays fuel and a fire.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 06 August 2014 17:48
>> Netters
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>> Can I assume the fuel pump for the 403 is the same as the 455??
>> Thanks
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>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
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>> I am not an alcoholic; alcoholics go to meetings.
>> I am a drunk; I go to parties !
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> Yes
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| Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #258030 is a reply to message #258024] |
Thu, 07 August 2014 07:02 |
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Thanks Jim !
Mike in NS
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Be sure to get the correct fuel pmup.
> Do not assume that becuse your coach ha an air conditioner, that you need
> the pump for that option as you will get a pump with 3 opening which is
> incorrect.
> The 3rd opening is to return the excess fuel back to the tank.
> Most plug that opening with a rubber hose, which later deteriates and
> sprays fuel and a fire.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
>
>> Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 06 August 2014 17:48
>>> Netters
>>>
>>> Can I assume the fuel pump for the 403 is the same as the 455??
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Beaton
>>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>>> Antigonish, NS
>>>
>>> I am not an alcoholic; alcoholics go to meetings.
>>> I am a drunk; I go to parties !
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>> Yes
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>> 78 Eleganza
>> Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #258142 is a reply to message #258039] |
Thu, 07 August 2014 23:58 |
jimk
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The 3 hole unit is not recommended as one will forget the plug off and
realize few yeas later when it starts leaking fuel that will hit the hot
manifold
I have been paid by fw insurance company to evaluate the cause of fires on
these coaches, and seen most to have this problem.
The other error is cutting the steel fuel line between the Fuel pump and
the carburetor.
Most instll an filter there. Very good location, but bad as again people
will forget to replace the rubber hoses and again a fire.
I'm not really sure if the new fuel hoses will last more than 10 year.
We have had couple of owners that saved their coach by having the Fire
Fight extinguishers.
The main bennifit of these are that it does not leave a residue that damage
the electrical components.
I always have people call and ak me to do an appraisal on their coaches
after an mishap and back date for them.
I will not do it as once I do, then my evaluation has no credibility.
I feel good about doing appraisals for people as it will protect them in
case of major damage..
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Mickey Szilagyi
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> Thanks Matt!
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> 1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump [message #258157 is a reply to message #257999] |
Fri, 08 August 2014 06:06 |
Jim at the Co-op
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I agree with you, Jim, about not just blocking off a 3 port pump but I was say because that 3port pump properly connected keep the fuel flowing from the tank to the pump fuel seems to not heat up as much. Bob H. Here on this forum did this long ago, I finally listened and sure nuff it works. We are mm ot installing these plumbing the return to thr 1/2" fuel inlet neck vent.
As far as fire sources 2 I know of started at the fuel line you talked about. One was fatigue of an original line at the tight bend coming out of the carb with the other squirrells chewing on a rubber hose used there. A very scary situation. The ss braid , Teflin liner hose solves both issues. If a sqiuirrel can chew that you have a seriouly demented mammal stalking your coach! The tight bend is a molded fitting.
A large number of fires are electrical ignition cause. This is why I strongly say have sealed hi current shut off switching for all of your batteries and all added circuits must have a fuse at where the power source is pulled from.
Having the right suppressant for the job , not a dry powder chemical unit no where near your coach will make you and your coach much safer. All this is short $ espcially when compared to how much damage a fire can do. Go to firefightproducts.com to see the right stuff.
Jim Bounds
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From: Jim Kanomata
Date: 08/08/2014 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] engine fuel pump
The 3 hole unit is not recommended as one will forget the plug off and
realize few yeas later when it starts leaking fuel that will hit the hot
manifold
I have been paid by fw insurance company to evaluate the cause of fires on
these coaches, and seen most to have this problem.
The other error is cutting the steel fuel line between the Fuel pump and
the carburetor.
Most instll an filter there. Very good location, but bad as again people
will forget to replace the rubber hoses and again a fire.
I'm not really sure if the new fuel hoses will last more than 10 year.
We have had couple of owners that saved their coach by having the Fire
Fight extinguishers.
The main bennifit of these are that it does not leave a residue that damage
the electrical components.
I always have people call and ak me to do an appraisal on their coaches
after an mishap and back date for them.
I will not do it as once I do, then my evaluation has no credibility.
I feel good about doing appraisals for people as it will protect them in
case of major damage..
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Mickey Szilagyi
wrote:
> Thanks Matt!
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> Mickey
> 1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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