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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257611 is a reply to message #257596] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 11:47   |
rjw
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 03 August 2014 11:14New windows from MotorHome Enhancements (Gene Dotson) have arrived. Really impressive units and about half the weight of the old windows. The only issue is that the poorly trained monkey that screwed the inner piece to the main extrusion should not have been given a screwdriver. Not only were there multiple holes drilled in the extrusion but the inner piece was poorly aligned. Nothing a drill wouldn't fix but irritating none the less.
Taking the interior out was a lot harder than changing the window. Which leads to question #1.
1- How did you finish out the window trim for those who have new windows.
I had to invent a way to reuse the trim on my early 1976 Palm Beach. No one (including MotorHome Enhancements) that I contacted seemed to know how to reuse the trim that I had. I finally figured out a way and it looks good I think.
I don't know if the window trim changed from early '76 to '77. If your trim is like mine, I could send you a link to photos on how I did mine.
Richard
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| Re: [GMCnet] New windows...and a couple questions [message #257613 is a reply to message #257611] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 11:54 |
bdub
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X end the link, Richard. I'll post it on Gene & Jim's page for others.
bdub
On Aug 3, 2014 11:47 AM, "RJW" wrote:
> Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Sun, 03 August 2014 11:14
>> New windows from MotorHome Enhancements (Gene Dotson) have arrived.
> Really impressive units and about half the weight of the old windows. The
>> only issue is that the poorly trained monkey that screwed the inner
> piece to the main extrusion should not have been given a screwdriver. Not
> only
>> were there multiple holes drilled in the extrusion but the inner piece
> was poorly aligned. Nothing a drill wouldn't fix but irritating none the
>> less.
>>
>> Taking the interior out was a lot harder than changing the window.
> Which leads to question #1.
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>> 1- How did you finish out the window trim for those who have new
> windows.
>
> I had to invent a way to reuse the trim on my early 1976 Palm Beach. No
> one (including MotorHome Enhancements) that I contacted seemed to know how
> to
> reuse the trim that I had. I finally figured out a way and it looks good
> I think.
>
> I don't know if the window trim changed from early '76 to '77. If your
> trim is like mine, I could send you a link to photos on how I did mine.
> --
> Richard
> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257616 is a reply to message #257611] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 12:18 |
kerry pinkerton
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rjw wrote on Sun, 03 August 2014 11:47... If your trim is like mine, I could send you a link to photos on how I did mine.
Yes please. Copy Bdub also.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257617 is a reply to message #257616] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 12:23 |
tphipps
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You will find installing the windows is easier with the double suction cup glass handler from Harbor Freight. Gives you something to hold onto, other than the edges of the window frame. I also used the suctionhandle to pull the window in tight to the coach body.
Yes, I agree that whomever, at the factory, installs the inner frame, needs re-training. This is over installing two complete sets, and several individual windows in other GMCs.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257656 is a reply to message #257596] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 17:12 |
kerry pinkerton
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Art called me yesterday saying his Alternator was bad and he was supposed to leave Monday on a trip. The parts stores were telling him 5 days. I let him have the new spare I had and will replace it...5 days is no problem for me as the coach is up on blocks.
Apparently the new alternator has a different spacing.
Art, did you try using those spacers I gave you? Or take out the one that was behind the pulley? you old one has the pulley flush with the fan.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257670 is a reply to message #257596] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 18:47 |
kerry pinkerton
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Back to the original subject, does anyone have any photos or is there a tech article on refurbing the cockpit side windows?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] New windows...and a couple questions [message #257671 is a reply to message #257661] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 18:53 |
Arthur Mansfield
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Kerry
I tried the spacer you had installed. The belt alined part way between two pulleys on the power steering pump. I took out the spacer and then it would not line up to the pulley the other one did. I put the spacer back in and put washers in front of the mount to the alternator. It switch to the over pulley but is closer alinement. I quit working on it for a while to see if I could get it better since it is still off some.
Art
On Aug 3, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
> I don't think so but mine is a 100 amp and his was something less. Physically, they looked the same though.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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| Re: [GMCnet] New windows...and a couple questions [message #257675 is a reply to message #257671] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 19:24 |
Arthur Mansfield
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I added washed to the bracket on the side of the head and it pushed the alternator forward to where the pulley line up. I am not sure if the pulley is twisted a little. I guess I will find out as I am going to start installing a new set of belts and get ready to leave for about 17hrs of driving to Oswego NY. I will find out on the trip if it is alined good enough.
Art
On Aug 3, 2014, at 6:53 PM, 1104agm wrote:
> Kerry
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> I tried the spacer you had installed. The belt alined part way between two pulleys on the power steering pump. I took out the spacer and then it would not line up to the pulley the other one did. I put the spacer back in and put washers in front of the mount to the alternator. It switch to the over pulley but is closer alinement. I quit working on it for a while to see if I could get it better since it is still off some.
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> Art
> On Aug 3, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
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>> I don't think so but mine is a 100 amp and his was something less. Physically, they looked the same though.
>> --
>> Kerry Pinkerton
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>> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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>> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] New windows...and a couple questions [message #257709 is a reply to message #257670] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 22:44 |
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How about this
http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#sliding
Erf
On Sunday, August 3, 2014, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
> Back to the original subject, does anyone have any photos or is there a
> tech article on refurbing the cockpit side windows?
>
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76
> Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: New windows...and a couple questions [message #257727 is a reply to message #257596] |
Mon, 04 August 2014 07:44 |
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Kerry,
There are only a few screws holding in the cockpit window. I ordered the C-channel seal from JimK. The cockpit window releases from the trailing edge first, and needs to slide back an inch to clear the front support. Mine were very stubborn, a heat gun was helpful, but slow steady pressure with a few plastic interior pry bars prevailed. I then dis assembled the windows, which are held together with a few sheet metal screws at the butt joints. The glass rubber seal was (luckily) still very pliable. I cleaned it well, and soaked it with silicon, let it dry. I applied clear acrylic caulk in a thin beads both sides of the rubber upon reassembly. Make sure you add the drains to the C channel fuzzy seal so it drains at the extrusion slots.
The window frame screws on my '73 didn't thread into the frame of the coach, but a thick aluminum backer plate that clamped the window to the coach frame. There was a cheesy plastic cover glued to it with window sealant to hide the gap. Butyl tape and a heat gun are your friend, pay close attention to the top front corner.
P.s. You may want to paint the coach's side windshield frame, there is a thin reveal when installed, painting it black to match updated the entire look. It was too cold when I did mine in November but have covered it with vinyl (electrical tape) for now.
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Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
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