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No "Christmas tree?" [message #255148] Sat, 12 July 2014 09:24 Go to next message
bhayes is currently offline  bhayes   United States
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Recently my 455's carburetor and I were having a staring contest (it won) while I was trying to figure out why the engine is not idling correctly, and noticed that my engine has no "Christmas tree," aka the thermostatic vacuum switch (TVS) found on page 377 of the manual. Is this required? Right now the distributor advance is connected directly to another vacuum port.

Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: [GMCnet] No "Christmas tree?" [message #255150 is a reply to message #255148] Sat, 12 July 2014 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Bryan,
Only in California when required by CARB! Other than that most have bypassed or removed the TVS and used the port for addition temp sensors.

JR Wright
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75 Avion
Michigan

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Bryan Hayes wrote:

> Recently my 455's carburetor and I were having a staring contest (it won) while I was trying to figure out why the engine is not idling correctly, and
> noticed that my engine has no "Christmas tree," aka the thermostatic vacuum switch (TVS) found on page 377 of the manual. Is this required? Right now
> the distributor advance is connected directly to another vacuum port.
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> '76 Eleganza II
> Salt Lake City, Utah
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Re: [GMCnet] No "Christmas tree?" [message #255160 is a reply to message #255150] Sat, 12 July 2014 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Mine has been gone for years. The vacuum advance hose should be connected directly to the highest port on the front of the carb.



Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] No "Christmas tree?" [message #255162 is a reply to message #255160] Sat, 12 July 2014 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine too. Took it out and installed a direct reading temperature gauge. One of the best, cheapest, easiest upgrades you can do. Because personally I like reading 200° rather than "halfway between the the 2nd and 3rd hash marks" ;O)

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] No "Christmas tree?" [message #255163 is a reply to message #255160] Sat, 12 July 2014 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Like this
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/tvs-and-vacuum/p3343.html

Ported vac
Erf

On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Ken Burton wrote:

> Mine has been gone for years. The vacuum advance hose should be connected
> directly to the highest port on the front of the carb.
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Re: No "Christmas tree?" [message #255173 is a reply to message #255148] Sat, 12 July 2014 13:55 Go to previous message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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bhayes wrote on Sat, 12 July 2014 08:24
Recently my 455's carburetor and I were having a staring contest (it won) while I was trying to figure out why the engine is not idling correctly, and noticed that my engine has no "Christmas tree," aka the thermostatic vacuum switch (TVS) found on page 377 of the manual. Is this required? Right now the distributor advance is connected directly to another vacuum port.

The only purpose of the christmas tree is to switch distributor vacuum from ported to manifold vacuum when the engine gets hot. That allows the engine to run more efficiently and at a higher idle in order to help cool it.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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