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Stalled Out! [message #253124] Tue, 24 June 2014 11:36 Go to next message
Cadillackeeper is currently offline  Cadillackeeper   United States
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Started,choke sets high idle, bags air up AC on.I take apart the fence and open the gates,I get in pop the gas and it stalls,never to start again.I instantly think I broke the timing chain as it seems to be flying in the breeze.I rip the cap off and see the rotor turning,so....Then I change the ignition module to my spare even thoigh I have not checked for spark.I get it together and use the screwdrver on the valve cover and I see a nice spark.
I close the hatch thinking It is going to fire off,No.I spray some starting fluid in the top and still no. What did I break?


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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253125 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 24 June 2014 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quick n dirty check - pour a bit og gas down the carb, floor it, and crank. As it leans it should at least PUT at some point.
Second and not so quick - if you mistrust the timing chain, check the distributor with the #1 cylinder at TDC It's possible for it to skip enough that the sparks don't correspond to the piston position.

--johnny
76 23' transmode norris

I forgive them all save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell.


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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253126 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 24 June 2014 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The plugs are probably fouled and wet from running at full choke. Give it AIR by cranking with the throttle wide open.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Stalled Out! [message #253130 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 24 June 2014 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cadillackeeper is currently offline  Cadillackeeper   United States
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Gas down the throat is next,I thought starting fluid would do it.I can only hope for fouling and not a skipped chain.Keep suggestions coming,thanks

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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253137 is a reply to message #253130] Tue, 24 June 2014 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When pouring gas in the carb to try and start, be sure to put the air filer cover back on, especially important if you think it might be a timing issue.

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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253138 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 24 June 2014 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cadillackeeper wrote on Tue, 24 June 2014 09:36
Started,choke sets high idle, bags air up AC on.I take apart the fence and open the gates,I get in pop the gas and it stalls,never to start again.I instantly think I broke the timing chain as it seems to be flying in the breeze.I rip the cap off and see the rotor turning,so....Then I change the ignition module to my spare even thoigh I have not checked for spark.I get it together and use the screwdrver on the valve cover and I see a nice spark.
I close the hatch thinking It is going to fire off,No.I spray some starting fluid in the top and still no. What did I break?


It just occurred to me that your choke pull off might be bad. It's supposed to force the choke open a bit within a few seconds of starting. If it doesn't, the choke will stay completely shut and the engine will stall.


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: Stalled Out! [message #253219 is a reply to message #253124] Wed, 25 June 2014 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And pay attention to Otterwan. I flashburned all the dust and cobwebs under the dash of my SOB doing this. Proper way - loosen the wingnut on the filter cannister, pour gas into the well the threaded rod comes up (slowly) and then replace the wingnut. Saves taking the top off the filter, too.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: Stalled Out! [message #253992 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 01 July 2014 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cadillackeeper is currently offline  Cadillackeeper   United States
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Ok,I have learned a lot over the past couple weeks.First and biggest thing is spark is not a spark. I thought because I was getting spark from the plugs when set on grnd and cranking meant I had spark. NO! New coil cap rotor module wires and plugs.Now it will spark almost 6 inches away from ground.Going to the Keys.....Yeah!!! Very Happy

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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253993 is a reply to message #253992] Tue, 01 July 2014 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh,$125 for all that stuff at the local parts store. Not too bad!


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Re: Stalled Out! [message #253997 is a reply to message #253124] Tue, 01 July 2014 13:47 Go to previous message
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