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[GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252965] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 20:12 |
Daniel DeLuca
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We got the 78 Elegaza II delivered on friday. We know a little more about the motorhome at this point. We purchased from the salvation army but the motorhome was still at the original owner’s house. He purchased the new back in 78 and has taken it on a grand total of 4 trips over the years. It has 13,500 miles. He maintained the motorhome until 2008 when his failing health left it more or left abandoned in the driveway. He has kept all the documentation and has two maintenance manuals. He also has two huge binder full of GMC motorhome newsletters neatly filed away. Neat stuff.
Anyway started putting the coach up on stands today to work on it. It has the original jack with the chain hook. After I got one of the rear sides up the jack started leaking badly around its base. I have access to a quality floor jack but I wonder if any of you know if the original jack can be repaired, the bracket is really low to the ground when the suspension is empty.
For those who are interested here are some pictures of us cleaning up the rig.
http://imgur.com/gallery/8nzTo
Dan
Allentown NJ
78 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252967 is a reply to message #252965] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 20:31 |
Guy Lopes
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Cool pics! Can we assume that it had been facing east all of those years?
Haha
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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Subject: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly
We got the 78 Elegaza II delivered on friday. We know a little more about
the motorhome at this point. We purchased from the salvation army but the
motorhome was still at the original owner's house. He purchased the new
back in 78 and has taken it on a grand total of 4 trips over the years. It
has 13,500 miles. He maintained the motorhome until 2008 when his failing
health left it more or left abandoned in the driveway. He has kept all the
documentation and has two maintenance manuals. He also has two huge binder
full of GMC motorhome newsletters neatly filed away. Neat stuff.
Anyway started putting the coach up on stands today to work on it. It has
the original jack with the chain hook. After I got one of the rear sides up
the jack started leaking badly around its base. I have access to a quality
floor jack but I wonder if any of you know if the original jack can be
repaired, the bracket is really low to the ground when the suspension is
empty.
For those who are interested here are some pictures of us cleaning up the
rig.
http://imgur.com/gallery/8nzTo
Dan
Allentown NJ
78 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252968 is a reply to message #252965] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 20:35 |
powerjon
Messages: 2446 Registered: January 2004
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Dan,
The OEM chain/bottle jack is really not a very good and not really safe to use, you need to get a couple low profile bottle jacks 6 to 12 ton in size.
The coach needs to be jacked from both sides evenly. You can crack or pop the windshields if you're not careful. If you have a large floor jack
3 or 4 ton you can use it in the middle of the front cross member and lift the coach. I use two 3 ton floor jacks on the frame just back of the from wheels and 2 bottle jacks in the back to lift my coach evenly. By chance did the PO have some jack pads to use on the rear bogies?
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1103
Like this or similar. Safest way to lift the back. DO NOT get under coach without using jack stands or blocking up the coach with wood cribbing.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#hook
or
http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2006/04/jack-hooks.html
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> We got the 78 Elegaza II delivered on friday. We know a little more about the motorhome at this point. We purchased from the salvation army but the motorhome was still at the original owner’s house. He purchased the new back in 78 and has taken it on a grand total of 4 trips over the years. It has 13,500 miles. He maintained the motorhome until 2008 when his failing health left it more or left abandoned in the driveway. He has kept all the documentation and has two maintenance manuals. He also has two huge binder full of GMC motorhome newsletters neatly filed away. Neat stuff.
>
> Anyway started putting the coach up on stands today to work on it. It has the original jack with the chain hook. After I got one of the rear sides up the jack started leaking badly around its base. I have access to a quality floor jack but I wonder if any of you know if the original jack can be repaired, the bracket is really low to the ground when the suspension is empty.
>
> For those who are interested here are some pictures of us cleaning up the rig.
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/8nzTo
>
> Dan
> Allentown NJ
> 78 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252972 is a reply to message #252965] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 20:57 |
Steve
Messages: 506 Registered: September 2013 Location: East Greenville, Pa
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Dan,
I got the two stage stubby bottle jack and jacking hook from Jim K at Applied GMC. It works really great for jacking the rear of the coach. I would highly recommend it. Well worth the minimal investment.
Love the pics. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing your coach at a rally some day.
1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252976 is a reply to message #252965] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 21:29 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Yes, it is possible and easy to repair a bottle jack. Simply take it apart and replace the dried up seals.
That said, I have one here that I have never used. I also would never use it. I guess it might work on a GMC but I have never seen one in use by any one and I would be afraid to try it myself. Mine stays in my garage on a shelf and almost made it to the junk yard two weeks ago when I hauled a 1993 Honda over there.
Get a jack hook or 2, and a couple of bottle jacks to carry in the coach. At home I use a single 2.5 ton long reach floor jack. It will lift the entire front or one side at the rear bogie. Also get 2 sets of jack stands.
The important thing is to get at least one low profile bottle jack that will lift the coach when a tire or air bag is flat.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252979 is a reply to message #252968] |
Sun, 22 June 2014 22:17 |
Bob de Kruyff
Messages: 4260 Registered: January 2004 Location: Chandler, AZ
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powerjon wrote on Sun, 22 June 2014 19:35Dan,
The OEM chain/bottle jack is really not a very good and not really safe to use, you need to get a couple low profile bottle jacks 6 to 12 ton in size.
The coach needs to be jacked from both sides evenly. You can crack or pop the windshields if you're not careful. If you have a large floor jack
3 or 4 ton you can use it in the middle of the front cross member and lift the coach. I use two 3 ton floor jacks on the frame just back of the from wheels and 2 bottle jacks in the back to lift my coach evenly. By chance did the PO have some jack pads to use on the rear bogies?
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1103
Like this or similar. Safest way to lift the back. DO NOT get under coach without using jack stands or blocking up the coach with wood cribbing.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#hook
or
http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2006/04/jack-hooks.html
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 GMC Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> We got the 78 Elegaza II delivered on friday. We know a little more about the motorhome at this point. We purchased from the salvation army but the motorhome was still at the original owner's house. He purchased the new back in 78 and has taken it on a grand total of 4 trips over the years. It has 13,500 miles. He maintained the motorhome until 2008 when his failing health left it more or left abandoned in the driveway. He has kept all the documentation and has two maintenance manuals. He also has two huge binder full of GMC motorhome newsletters neatly filed away. Neat stuff.
>
> Anyway started putting the coach up on stands today to work on it. It has the original jack with the chain hook. After I got one of the rear sides up the jack started leaking badly around its base. I have access to a quality floor jack but I wonder if any of you know if the original jack can be repaired, the bracket is really low to the ground when the suspension is empty.
>
> For those who are interested here are some pictures of us cleaning up the rig.
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/8nzTo
>
> Dan
> Allentown NJ
> 78 Eleganza II
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It does seem ancient but when my airbag blew, the OEM jack was all I could get low enough and frankly it was effortless when it came to lifting the side involved.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252987 is a reply to message #252979] |
Mon, 23 June 2014 03:20 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Next time that happens take a small hydraulic jack and place it under the rear frame back near the rear bumper. Raise the coach only enough to get a regular hydraulic jack under the bogie with or without a jack hook.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252990 is a reply to message #252965] |
Mon, 23 June 2014 06:56 |
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Love the story, the coach looks good (after cleaning), and you were able to buy it right, but I loved the comments made by your friends.
Now that you have us "hooked" you will have to keep sending photos as you continue to freshen it up.
Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
carguybill@sbcglobal.net
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #252998 is a reply to message #252991] |
Mon, 23 June 2014 09:16 |
Daniel DeLuca
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After a little goggling, it is leaking from the reservoir which does not hold any pressure. I could take it apart and try to find a replacement seal, but I think I will just put a bead of JB weld around the base and see if that will hold in the hydraulic fluid. It a quick and dirty fix, but might hold me off till I order a stubby from northern tool.
Dan
Allentown, NJ
78’ Eleganza II
On Jun 23, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
> I know what others have said here, but Don,t toss that old jack. It can be repaired and it is a much better unit than Chinese junk that the common
> comdity. I would like to tell you more and relate more experience. but we are traveling and my real keyboard is down.
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> Matt at Port Austin this morning
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #253045 is a reply to message #252996] |
Mon, 23 June 2014 16:41 |
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Matt Colie
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 09:38G'day Matt,
Sorry I'm going to disagree with you a bit; here's a couple of GOOD bottle jacks.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5846-ford-torin-jack-comparison.html
The Torin jacks are readily available from Applied GMC and Northern Tool; the Ford jacks you have to do a Google or eBay search for.
Regards,
Rob M.
Rob et al,
Now that I have a real keyboard I will relate my issues.
I do not intend to purchase something that I have every hope of never having to use.
I can do anything I might need to do on the road with the OE jack and chain kit.
I have changed a tire on each end. I was able to jack and block the coach enough to change a starter.
In my barn, I have both a 1-1/2 and three ton floor jack and a collection of other jacks. But, I have on occasion gotten the jack and chain kit out of the coach because it could do something that my jack set was having a hard time doing.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Original Jack, leaking badly [message #253115 is a reply to message #253061] |
Tue, 24 June 2014 10:02 |
SThornbg
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I have been told the OEM jack (its equivalent) is still available from U.S.Jack and it is American made in Benton Harbor, MI. Both the jack and the chain adaptor can be found at usjack.com.
There are no seals on the reservoir of this jack, just mechanical sealing by tightening the big nut on top using a big wrench and a big vise.
I haven't done the research, but I got the info from a pretty good guy so I believe it is valid.
Steve Thornburg
South Bend, IN
77 exPB 455 "Tinker Toy"
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