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Tue, 27 May 2014 12:33  |
Olly Schmidt
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Hey list,
as you probably are aware, I plan on taking "The Beast" out of Mitch
hands on Thursday/Friday this week, and travel from the Tacoma, WA area
to Farmville, Virginia.
What would be your suggestion as to the daily driving distance? I just
want to get the distance covered, and do not really care about
additional scenery (that is/was for/at a different time).
400mls/day? 600mls/day? more? less?
At the moment I am planning on taking I-90-I35-I380-I80-I74-I70-Hw35-I64
I HAVE to be in Richmond on Saturday the 7th to catch my plane back to
Germany.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250729 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 12:56  |
lqqkatjon
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if it were me, I would not worry about how much per day. If I had a plane to catch, I would try to drive as much as possible when you start out. I would plan my driving to cross any major city at a time of day, where traffic is not an issue. I know Minneapolis can be crossed at 3 am, is just over an hour. at 7 am or 5 pm, it can take 3. midday maybe 1.5 hours.
Just when you get gas. walk around and looks things over. Keep the blacklist handy, keep a way to connect to GMC net handy, so if you do run into an issue, it can not slow your trip down. post your status and lots of people out there can direct you to the best routes to travel avoiding traffic construction and hills.
my streets and trips shows a different route, but that means nothing.
Jon Roche
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250730 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:02 |
tphipps
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Peter, travel distance is very subjective. Really should divide the distance by days you wish to drive to arrive at a minimum daily rate. Are you driving alone or do you have an additional driver? If distance is the goal, 500 miles a day is reasonable, depending upon stops for driver needs. I would travel further on the first few days, that would build in a cushion. With another driver, I traveled 900 miles in one day. He did do all the driving. The GMC is a very comfortable vehicle to drive and can go long distances without problems.
Check oil at every refueling stop. Travel with the Black List.
Have fun.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250733 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:12 |
kerry pinkerton
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Peer, I think that will depend on several factors.
- Weather
- Traffic and road conditions (mountains)
- Your boredom tolerance
400 interstate miles at 60 mph average isn't quite 8 hours unless you take a lot of breaks. The most I've driven my coach is about 400 but that was with my wife in the coach and pulling a toad. Alone, I'd probably leave when I woke up, drive until I get hungry, eat, perhaps take a nap, and drive some more. Sitting in a WalMart parking lot because I've already done my 'miles' for the day isn't something I'd probably do. Instead, I'd drive until I need to stop to eat and/or sleep and keep rolling unless I needed a break from the drivers seat.
I drive my pickup regularity to events that are up to 1000 miles away. I've done it non-stop but it takes me a couple days to recover. Lately, I've taken the approach I described above. Drive until I get tired, take a nap, when I'm awake, I drive, when I'm sleepy I pull over in a rest area, lay the seat back and sleep until I wake up. Driving 12 hours a day I can arrive in pretty good shape.
Don't know the roads you mention but if you can avoid going through Chicago, and the rust belt cities, I would. Every time I go up that way I get caught in some awful traffic and terrible roads.
In Illinois, watch out for the "Revenue Enhancement Troopers". They work for the Treasury dept and like to give tickets....especially to out of state vehicles and especially in construction zones. I've driven through 20 miles of 'zones' where there was absolutely no construction and no workers but they'll nail you bad for exceeding the 'construction zone' speed limit. Thanks to my Uncles warnings, I've never got a ticket but I don't speed and don't even push it in Il.
Are you taking the coach back to Germany ultimately? Or do you split your time like Rob does?
Make sure you have a printed copy of the black list, and keep your cell phone charged. If you are NOT on Verizon, you might consider getting a prepaid Verizon phone. They have coverage almost everywhere. Much better than all the other carriers.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250735 is a reply to message #250730] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:16 |
Olly Schmidt
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Hello Thomas,
thanks for your input.
I am driving alone. In '93 I drove the other way round and it took me 5
days to travel from Philly to Orange County with my Miata (including a
slow day crossing the Rocky's from Denver behind a snowplow...)
> With another driver, I traveled 900 miles in one day.
Did you do that on a GMC? I wonder how problematic it is for the GMC to
run for hours upon hours at the same speed.
> Check oil at every refueling stop. Travel with the Black List.
> Have fun.
All three things are on my to-do-list :)
Oh, and it is Peer, without a *T*
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250737 is a reply to message #250733] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:21 |
Olly Schmidt
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Kerry,
thanks. I make it a rule to never exceed a speed limit that I notice.
That's what cruise control is good for, imho.
> Are you taking the coach back to Germany ultimately? Or do you split your time like Rob does?
The GMC will stay in VA for the foreseeable future, and the two owners,
my brother and I, will take it out for a spin without friends and
family. At least that's the plan atm.
> If you are NOT on Verizon, you might consider getting a prepaid Verizon phone.
That's a good advise. I'll have two cell phones with me. One will have
the German SIM card, meaning it will access what ever provider is
available, the other will get a US SIM card. I'll look out for a Verizon
card.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250739 is a reply to message #250737] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:45 |
Ken Henderson
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Peer,
Be sure to sign up for a good road service. I've had good support from RV
RoadHelp, a division of Allstate. No matter how reliable the coach proves
to be, just one little incident, such as a bad ignition module, can result
in a towing bill far exceeding the annual road service cost. Especially at
the introductory price they're offering:
http://rvservices.koa.com/rvresources/rvroadhelp/
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt
wrote:
> Kerry,
>
> thanks. I make it a rule to never exceed a speed limit that I notice.
> That's what cruise control is good for, imho.
>> Are you taking the coach back to Germany ultimately? Or do you split
> your time like Rob does?
> The GMC will stay in VA for the foreseeable future, and the two owners,
> my brother and I, will take it out for a spin without friends and
> family. At least that's the plan atm.
>> If you are NOT on Verizon, you might consider getting a prepaid Verizon
> phone.
> That's a good advise. I'll have two cell phones with me. One will have
> the German SIM card, meaning it will access what ever provider is
> available, the other will get a US SIM card. I'll look out for a Verizon
> card.
>
> --
> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250740 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:57 |
lqqkatjon
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yes, get RV towing. that is very important insurance, one that will allow it to be hauled where you want it to be. there are some spots that can be hundreds of miles from anything in some cases. I know crossing montana, you want to get gas at the big towns. even if you don't need it.
just can't repeat it enough. if you need help, ask. before somebody who does not know any better gives you the wrong help.
Jon Roche
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250741 is a reply to message #250737] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 13:56 |
James Hupy
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Peer, we are presently on the route that you hope to take. There are 4 gmc
coaches in the group most of the time. We are running 350 - 400 miles most
of the days. We rest stop around every 2 hours depending upon locations of
roadside rest areas and fuel stops. We stay each evening at a RV park where
we already have confirmed reservations. Some of the distances between fuel
stops require some planning. Most of the coaches have 400 miles cruising
time before pucker time. Worrying about running out of fuel in the middle
of Wyoming will do that to you. With two drivers you can extend travel
miles to 600 miles per day. About 2400 miles from Seattle to
Detroit/Chicago area. You can do the math. Travel speed through the west to
eastern Dakota is 65-70 mph. Slower than that east of there.
Jim Hupy. Route 66 rolling rally in Billings, Montana bound for Buffalo,
Wy. Tonight.
On May 27, 2014 12:22 PM, "Peer Oliver Schmidt"
wrote:
> Kerry,
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> thanks. I make it a rule to never exceed a speed limit that I notice.
> That's what cruise control is good for, imho.
>> Are you taking the coach back to Germany ultimately? Or do you split
> your time like Rob does?
> The GMC will stay in VA for the foreseeable future, and the two owners,
> my brother and I, will take it out for a spin without friends and
> family. At least that's the plan atm.
>> If you are NOT on Verizon, you might consider getting a prepaid Verizon
> phone.
> That's a good advise. I'll have two cell phones with me. One will have
> the German SIM card, meaning it will access what ever provider is
> available, the other will get a US SIM card. I'll look out for a Verizon
> card.
>
> --
> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> the internet company
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250742 is a reply to message #250737] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 14:24 |
Mitch
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Just Me chiming in here.
I'd suggest I-80 from Utah all the way east. Once you get up on the prairie it's a fairly flat shot at least thru Nebraska and Kansas. It may seem longer, but that may compensate for the additional time spent going up and down thru Montana.
Now, all you guys that have a lot more time behind the GMC wheels can join in and tell me whatever.
I just want Peer to get The Beast to it's new home.
>Just a quick add-on here: I've driven I-90, I-80, I-70, East and West, albeit not in a GMC, I-80 is my preferred route as it's the flatter and in my opinion quicker one. That being said, there are fewer towns and possibly fewer Black List members also.
Mitch
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'80 Spitfire
'03 Windstar
'77 Jaguar XJ6-C
X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
Where it rains, always.
It's wet, No sun, Gray.
Go to Oregon.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250743 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 15:01 |
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Good Luck Peer
Hope you will have a troublefree ride
Now trouble makes interesting travel with chances to meet all kind of people, but that is not what this trip is about
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
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Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250752 is a reply to message #250742] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 16:01 |
Olly Schmidt
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Mitch:
> I'd suggest I-80 from Utah all the way east. Once you get up on the prairie it's a fairly flat shot at least thru Nebraska and Kansas. It may seem longer [..]
Just looked at it. I-80 sounds like a good idea. There seem to be more
stops along the road than on my original route. And it is only 100mls or
so longer (if that much).
@All: Thanks for your suggestions, and notes. I'll keep the
* Black list print out has to be in the car
* Stock up on fuel whenever you can
* Keep comm open
* Avoid big cities during rush hour
on my mind.
Again, great help from everybody, thank you very much.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250753 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 16:15 |
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On the way to my first GMCMI Convention, I drove solo for 570 miles (Tucson, AZ to Las Vegas NM) on the first day. It was a looooong day in the coach. The second farthest was from Fredericksburg TX to El Paso TX (500 miles). It is doable, but much more comfortable to plan for 350 - 400 miles per day. I agree that the coaches are comfortable to drive, but are still a little more tiring than driving a car. I don't think there should be any issues with long distance driving as long as the bearings and cooling system(s) are in good condition. After all, that is what the GMC was built for in the first place. You might consider starting out strong and tapering off as you go as Tom suggested.
Carl Stouffer
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Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250759 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 16:56 |
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Well if it was me..8 days to get 2814 miles...You need to average 351 miles a day. Because you are leaving from Tacoma WA, you are going to crossing the mountains early on in the trip. For that reason, I am not sure I would be wanting to have long travel days during mountain travel. You would be more able and have better terrain through South Dakota, Iowa and Illinois and the Midwest in general. I think I would take it easy the first couple days (also a good chance to get to know the coach) then maybe push it in the middle, and not be too stressed for the end.
Paul Zerkel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250763 is a reply to message #250728] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 17:46 |
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Id take the 5 down to Sacramento and take I80 all the way across. I have found that these old coaches do not like hills. Not that I80 doesnt have any but its not as bad as 90 or70. Even the nicest of them get miserable after 1000 miles of continuous driving. Before I started I would replace the belts, hose and water pump. The fuel filters and pump also. I would def rebuild the carb. Repack the rear bearings and check the fronts. Top off your final drive at the very least. The last couple coaches I have moved I replaced the final drive cover gasket and ran 50/50 oil and lucas oil treatment. If it were me Id drive from 6p to 6a, keep that speed under 60mph and take it easy. Keep the radio off so you can hear new noises as they appear. Dont assume that you have a great coach just because you paid X amount of dollars for it that nothing is gonna happen. If your flying in to get the coach chances are your not going to have all the tools your gonna need to do a road side waterpump exchange and your gonna pay thru the ass if Bubba in Iowa does it. Chances are they have never worked on one and its gonna take them forever. A couple of those and your going to be on a deadline to get back and grab your plane back and your gonna start pushing the unit to make it and that is when your gonna have big problems. Being on a deadline while your pushing one of these girls across the country is a red flag. Not over preparing for the trip will kill your budget. The difference between 8mpg and 10mpg on that trip is the diff of 280gal vs 350gal. A rebuilt, tuned and adjusted carburetor would pay for itself in fuel savings. I budget $1 dollar a mile to move a unit and add an extra $100 for every 1000 miles. Listen to my advise or dont. I dont care. Im only speaking from the experiences I have encountered. Eventually your going to do everything I have mentioned to the coach. The choice is up to you to do it before you put the strain of a coast to coast trip thru the northern US or hope that it will make it with no problems. Good luck. Drive slow, check your fluids and feel your hubs at every stop. Just my opinion.
Thanx. David
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250769 is a reply to message #250763] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 18:06 |
Mitch
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It's all great advice if he (or me)have enough time, but we don't.
What I have done is change the engine oil, insure tranny fluid is good, same with coolant. I'll check tire pressure tomorrow - including the spare.
I've basically prepped the rig as if I was taking it.
There's no way I would recommend adding the distance from here to Sacramento (going south)just to turn left and go essentially the same distance as from here to Boise.
If he were departing from way south of here, sure. But otherwise - nope.
Just my opinion.BRDRVR wrote on Tue, 27 May 2014 15:46Id take the 5 down to Sacramento and take I80 all the way across. I have found that these old coaches do not like hills. Not that I80 doesnt have any but its not as bad as 90 or70. Even the nicest of them get miserable after 1000 miles of continuous driving. Before I started I would replace the belts, hose and water pump. The fuel filters and pump also. I would def rebuild the carb. Repack the rear bearings and check the fronts. Top off your final drive at the very least. The last couple coaches I have moved I replaced the final drive cover gasket and ran 50/50 oil and lucas oil treatment. If it were me Id drive from 6p to 6a, keep that speed under 60mph and take it easy. Keep the radio off so you can hear new noises as they appear. Dont assume that you have a great coach just because you paid X amount of dollars for it that nothing is gonna happen. If your flying in to get the coach chances are your not going to have all the tools your gonna need to do a road side waterpump exchange and your gonna pay thru the ass if Bubba in Iowa does it. Chances are they have never worked on one and its gonna take them forever. A couple of those and your going to be on a deadline to get back and grab your plane back and your gonna start pushing the unit to make it and that is when your gonna have big problems. Being on a deadline while your pushing one of these girls across the country is a red flag. Not over preparing for the trip will kill your budget. The difference between 8mpg and 10mpg on that trip is the diff of 280gal vs 350gal. A rebuilt, tuned and adjusted carburetor would pay for itself in fuel savings. I budget $1 dollar a mile to move a unit and add an extra $100 for every 1000 miles. Listen to my advise or dont. I dont care. Im only speaking from the experiences I have encountered. Eventually your going to do everything I have mentioned to the coach. The choice is up to you to do it before you put the strain of a coast to coast trip thru the northern US or hope that it will make it with no problems. Good luck. Drive slow, check your fluids and feel your hubs at every stop. Just my opinion.
Thanx. David
Mitch
Tacoma, Wa.
'80 Spitfire
'03 Windstar
'77 Jaguar XJ6-C
X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
Where it rains, always.
It's wet, No sun, Gray.
Go to Oregon.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250782 is a reply to message #250771] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 19:17 |
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Peer.
Larry makes a good point on the tool kit; you could stop at a Harbor Freight store and put a good kit together for about a couple
hundred bucks.
Would you like me to put together a list of tools you should consider by HF's SKU number?
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Davick
It's been said that these are machines of amazing grace. They are also tougher than they appear. A buddy of mine likes to say if it
will go a mile it will a thousand. Well, that's simplistic, but still, the parts are largely generic and the skills to fix these
beauties are fairly standard. With the help of this net, a good toolkit, and a local auto parts store you'll do fine.
Larry
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| Re: [GMCnet] Daily stints for the beast [message #250794 is a reply to message #250782] |
Tue, 27 May 2014 23:29 |
Olly Schmidt
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Good morning all,
thanks for more input. Rob, it would be nice to have that list. Don't go
overboard :)
David, as Mitch said, I do not have too much time on hand, but I will
keep your notes in mind, especially the one about not going too fast. I
did not plan on beating the record for fastest country crossing in an
RV. I prefer to take it slow and spend hours on the road, instead of
hours pumping up.
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