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Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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can anyone help this person
there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
- air systems
- measurements
- how to raise . jack gmc
-
i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
erf

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From: jon kemp
Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com


Dear sir...

I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway transition. I
can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear wheel
to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model. Any
chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the driveway
transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
approach the driveway?

Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details on
the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.

Kind regards
Jon



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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249483 is a reply to message #249471] Mon, 12 May 2014 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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I have a similar (if not measured) situation. To get in or out, I need to raise the rear as high as possible, but it does fit into my driveway. Rob Mueller (26 footer) visited in Fall of 2012 and was also able to negotiate the rise. I suspect a 23 footer would fit even more easily due to reduced tail overhang.

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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 02:42:17 -0700
> From: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> CC: sandjkemp4585@gmail.com
> Subject: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>
> can anyone help this person
> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
> - air systems
> - measurements
> - how to raise . jack gmc
> -
> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
> erf
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jon kemp
> Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
> Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
> To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>
>
> Dear sir...
>
> I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
> either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway transition. I
> can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear wheel
> to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model. Any
> chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
> degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the driveway
> transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
> approach the driveway?
>
> Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details on
> the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.
>
> Kind regards
> Jon
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and

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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249498 is a reply to message #249483] Mon, 12 May 2014 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jon kemp is currently offline  jon kemp   United States
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thx for the responses guys...much appreciated. I really want to get the
26ft as it provides much better sleeping accommodation. I'll see one comes
up closer to home the try it out before buying.

Thx again and best regards
jon


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:

> I have a similar (if not measured) situation. To get in or out, I need to
> raise the rear as high as possible, but it does fit into my driveway. Rob
> Mueller (26 footer) visited in Fall of 2012 and was also able to negotiate
> the rise. I suspect a 23 footer would fit even more easily due to reduced
> tail overhang.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 02:42:17 -0700
>> From: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> CC: sandjkemp4585@gmail.com
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>
>>
>> can anyone help this person
>> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
>> - air systems
>> - measurements
>> - how to raise . jack gmc
>> -
>> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
>> erf
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: jon kemp
>> Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
>> Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>> To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Dear sir...
>>
>> I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
>> either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway transition.
> I
>> can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear
> wheel
>> to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model. Any
>> chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
>> degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the
> driveway
>> transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
>> approach the driveway?
>>
>> Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details on
>> the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249499 is a reply to message #249471] Mon, 12 May 2014 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 04:42
can anyone help this person
there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
- air systems
- measurements
- how to raise . jack gmc
-
i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
erf
Quote:
From: jon kemp
Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com


Dear sir...

I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway transition. I
can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear wheel
to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model. Any
chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the driveway
transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
approach the driveway?

Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details on
the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.

Kind regards
Jon

--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
"Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html

There's this for the 26'

http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-Left.pdf

and this for the 23'

http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-23'-Left.pdf
Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249505 is a reply to message #249499] Mon, 12 May 2014 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jon kemp is currently offline  jon kemp   United States
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thx so much! I think this answers my questions. Looks like the 26' might
work with wooden planks...but the 23' has about a 4 degree departure
headroom versus the angle of my driveway.

Thx again, very helpful.

best regards
jon


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, A. wrote:

> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 04:42
>> can anyone help this person
>> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
>> - air systems
>> - measurements
>> - how to raise . jack gmc
>> -
>> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
>> erfQuote:
>>> From: jon kemp
>>> Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
>>> Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>>> To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear sir...
>>>
>>> I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
>>> either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway
> transition. I
>>> can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear
> wheel
>>> to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model.
> Any
>>> chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
>>> degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the
> driveway
>>> transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
>>> approach the driveway?
>>>
>>> Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details
> on
>>> the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Jon
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>> Alternator Protection Cable
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
> There's this for the 26'
>
> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-Left.pdf
>
> and this for the 23'
>
> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-23'-Left.pdf
>
> --
> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
> Upper Alabama
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249508 is a reply to message #249505] Mon, 12 May 2014 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Remember that those measurements were made with the coach at its normal running attitude (somewhat tail down). Pressuring up the rear bags to raise the coach a couple of inches at the center of the rear suspension would probably kick the rear bumper up three inches, greatly increasing your clearance angle!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
______________
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*--OO--[]---O-*



> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:29:09 -0700
> From: sandjkemp4585@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>
> thx so much! I think this answers my questions. Looks like the 26' might
> work with wooden planks...but the 23' has about a 4 degree departure
> headroom versus the angle of my driveway.
>
> Thx again, very helpful.
>
> best regards
> jon
>
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, A. wrote:
>
>> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 04:42
>>> can anyone help this person
>>> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
>>> - air systems
>>> - measurements
>>> - how to raise . jack gmc
>>> -
>>> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
>>> erfQuote:
>>>> From: jon kemp
>>>> Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>>>> To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear sir...
>>>>
>>>> I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
>>>> either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway
>> transition. I
>>>> can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear
>> wheel
>>>> to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model.
>> Any
>>>> chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
>>>> degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the
>> driveway
>>>> transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
>>>> approach the driveway?
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details
>> on
>>>> the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Jon
>>> --
>>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>>> "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>>> -------
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>>> Alternator Protection Cable
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>> There's this for the 26'
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-Left.pdf
>>
>> and this for the 23'
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-23'-Left.pdf
>>
>> --
>> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
>> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
>> Upper Alabama

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Re: [GMCnet] Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249509 is a reply to message #249505] Mon, 12 May 2014 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Jon
We once bought a house in 1984 in California which had a steep driveway with a drop at the end down to the street. We then discovered that we could not drive our 26' GMC up the drive because it dragged so much that, even with the airbags inflated totally, we could not move more that 20 feet up the drive.

I then tried backing up the drive and it worked fine. We did that for the next 9 years until we moved.

Emery Stora

On May 12, 2014, at 11:29 AM, jon kemp wrote:

> thx so much! I think this answers my questions. Looks like the 26' might
> work with wooden planks...but the 23' has about a 4 degree departure
> headroom versus the angle of my driveway.
>
> Thx again, very helpful.
>
> best regards
> jon
>
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, A. wrote:
>
>> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 04:42
>>> can anyone help this person
>>> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
>>> - air systems
>>> - measurements
>>> - how to raise . jack gmc
>>> -
>>> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
>>> erfQuote:
>>>> From: jon kemp
>>>> Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>>>> To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear sir...
>>>>
>>>> I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to view
>>>> either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway
>> transition. I
>>>> can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre rear
>> wheel
>>>> to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either model.
>> Any
>>>> chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
>>>> degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the
>> driveway
>>>> transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
>>>> approach the driveway?
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also details
>> on
>>>> the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that scrapes.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Jon
>>> --
>>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>>> "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>>> -------
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>>> Alternator Protection Cable
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>> There's this for the 26'
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-Left.pdf
>>
>> and this for the 23'
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-23'-Left.pdf
>>
>> --
>> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
>> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
>> Upper Alabama
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249518 is a reply to message #249508] Mon, 12 May 2014 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jon kemp is currently offline  jon kemp   United States
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Cool advice, thx again everyone. Turns out there's one locally i can look
at today...will let you know what transpires.

Cheers
jon


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:

> Remember that those measurements were made with the coach at its normal
> running attitude (somewhat tail down). Pressuring up the rear bags to
> raise the coach a couple of inches at the center of the rear suspension
> would probably kick the rear bumper up three inches, greatly increasing
> your clearance angle!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:29:09 -0700
>> From: sandjkemp4585@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>>
>> thx so much! I think this answers my questions. Looks like the 26' might
>> work with wooden planks...but the 23' has about a 4 degree departure
>> headroom versus the angle of my driveway.
>>
>> Thx again, very helpful.
>>
>> best regards
>> jon
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, A. wrote:
>>
>>> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 May 2014 04:42
>>>> can anyone help this person
>>>> there are so many factors, it is hard to answer
>>>> - air systems
>>>> - measurements
>>>> - how to raise . jack gmc
>>>> -
>>>> i can barely keep up with gmc on the flat
>>>> erfQuote:
>>>> > From: jon kemp
>>>> > Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM
>>>> > Subject: Advice on GMC totaled 1978
>>>> > To: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear sir...
>>>> >
>>>> > I have my on on a 1978 26' and a 1978 23'. It's quite a drive to
> view
>>>> > either of them and my challenge of owning one is my driveway
>>> transition. I
>>>> > can't for the life of me figure out the distance from the centre
> rear
>>> wheel
>>>> > to the back of the rv..or the rear ground clearance on either
> model.
>>> Any
>>>> > chance you can help me out on this one? My driveway slopes at 8
>>>> > degrees.....and there's a drainage drop of about 1//4 inch as the
>>> driveway
>>>> > transitions to the road. Ultimately...will either model scrape as I
>>>> > approach the driveway?
>>>> >
>>>> > Your thoughts on this would be very much appreciate...and also
> details
>>> on
>>>> > the maximum clearance and also distance to the section that
> scrapes.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards
>>>> > Jon
>>>> --
>>>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>>>> "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>>>> -------
>>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>>>> Alternator Protection Cable
>>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>>> There's this for the 26'
>>>
>>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-Left.pdf
>>>
>>> and this for the 23'
>>>
>>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCdrawings/GMC-Scale-23'-Left.pdf
>>>
>>> --
>>> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
>>> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
>>> Upper Alabama
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Advice on GMC totaled 1978 [message #249524 is a reply to message #249471] Mon, 12 May 2014 15:30 Go to previous message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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here is a solution for the opposite problem:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/dwayne-s-ramp/p42584-more-pics-of-dwayne-s.html

I would think a few boards would allow the GMC to clear and be parked in your steep driveway.



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