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[GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248732] Mon, 28 April 2014 20:33 Go to next message
RicksGMC is currently offline  RicksGMC   United States
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Hi All,
Monsoon season here in Minnesota has prompted me to look for suggestions on finding and resolving water leaks in the coach. Particularly at the entrance door that has a pretty steady stream running through the top of the door (I know re-curving the door will help, I'm just worried about damaging the window), and also some random leaks on a couple of the windows and a few spots where the water is just running down the walls.
Thanks in advance for any and all helpful tips!

Rick

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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248733 is a reply to message #248732] Mon, 28 April 2014 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leaks are a constant project it seems, and they don't always start where you might think, so you have to be a detective.

As far as the door, I think the easiest solution is to purchase the little 'eyebrow' that fits over the door to divert any rain away from the top of the door. JimK has them on his website.


George Rudawsky
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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248735 is a reply to message #248732] Mon, 28 April 2014 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rick,

Here you go: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/917

Twenty bucks well spent!

Just pop rivet and seal the Rain Shield above the door with a bit of polyurethane (paintable) sealer.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Drummond

Hi All,
Monsoon season here in Minnesota has prompted me to look for suggestions on finding and resolving water leaks in the coach.
Particularly at the entrance door that has a pretty steady stream running through the top of the door (I know re-curving the door
will help, I'm just worried about damaging the window), and also some random leaks on a couple of the windows and a few spots where
the water is just running down the walls.
Thanks in advance for any and all helpful tips!

Rick

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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248742 is a reply to message #248735] Mon, 28 April 2014 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
I've been looking at that rain shield, so I'm glad to get your endorsement that it works!
Thanks

Rick

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Prior Lake MN
'74 (re)Painted Desert

On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Here you go: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/917
>
> Twenty bucks well spent!
>
> Just pop rivet and seal the Rain Shield above the door with a bit of polyurethane (paintable) sealer.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Drummond
>
> Hi All,
> Monsoon season here in Minnesota has prompted me to look for suggestions on finding and resolving water leaks in the coach.
> Particularly at the entrance door that has a pretty steady stream running through the top of the door (I know re-curving the door
> will help, I'm just worried about damaging the window), and also some random leaks on a couple of the windows and a few spots where
> the water is just running down the walls.
> Thanks in advance for any and all helpful tips!
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248744 is a reply to message #248735] Mon, 28 April 2014 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 28 April 2014 20:00

Rick,

Here you go: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/917

Twenty bucks well spent!

Just pop rivet and seal the Rain Shield above the door with a bit of polyurethane (paintable) sealer.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Drummond

Hi All,
Monsoon season here in Minnesota has prompted me to look for suggestions on finding and resolving water leaks in the coach.
Particularly at the entrance door that has a pretty steady stream running through the top of the door (I know re-curving the door
will help, I'm just worried about damaging the window), and also some random leaks on a couple of the windows and a few spots where
the water is just running down the walls.
Thanks in advance for any and all helpful tips!

Rick

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I still think you should recurve the door to really fix it. Plenty of info exists and even though it seems extreme, the results have been good.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248747 is a reply to message #248744] Mon, 28 April 2014 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RicksGMC is currently offline  RicksGMC   United States
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Bob,
I'm definitely going to do the re-curving, there is a noticeable gap at the top and bottom; and I've had my eye on that rain shield, I know it will work better than the piece of aluminum that the PO stuck above the door.

Rick

Rick&Tammy Drummond
Prior Lake MN
'74 (re)Painted Desert

On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@gmail.COM> wrote:

>
>
> USAussie wrote on Mon, 28 April 2014 20:00
>> Rick,
>>
>> Here you go: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/917
>>
>> Twenty bucks well spent!
>>
>> Just pop rivet and seal the Rain Shield above the door with a bit of polyurethane (paintable) sealer.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Drummond
>>
>> Hi All,
>> Monsoon season here in Minnesota has prompted me to look for suggestions on finding and resolving water leaks in the coach.
>> Particularly at the entrance door that has a pretty steady stream running through the top of the door (I know re-curving the door
>> will help, I'm just worried about damaging the window), and also some random leaks on a couple of the windows and a few spots where
>> the water is just running down the walls.
>> Thanks in advance for any and all helpful tips!
>>
>> Rick
>>
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> I still think you should recurve the door to really fix it. Plenty of info exists and even though it seems extreme, the results have been good.
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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248750 is a reply to message #248744] Mon, 28 April 2014 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

Agreed.

Recurve the door = belt
Rain shield = suspenders

;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Bob de Kruyff

I still think you should recurve the door to really fix it. Plenty of info exists and even though it seems extreme, the results have
been good.

Bob

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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248758 is a reply to message #248750] Mon, 28 April 2014 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 28 April 2014 21:23

Bob,

Agreed.

Recurve the door = belt
Rain shield = suspenders

Wink

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Bob de Kruyff

I still think you should recurve the door to really fix it. Plenty of info exists and even though it seems extreme, the results have
been good.

Bob

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What's interesting about all of this is that I apparently have the rain shield--I always assumed it was OEM but apparently not. Also, I see that I need to recurve my door one of these days even though my coach doesn't seem to suffer from middle age spread. I just don't like to see the gaps.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html



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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248759 is a reply to message #248732] Mon, 28 April 2014 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how are your hinge bushings? mine are shot, and there is some gaps on the door. I am hoping to replace the bushings to see how the door fits. I have new bushings in hand, just need to get around to buying the hinge tool to pull the pins.



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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248761 is a reply to message #248759] Tue, 29 April 2014 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just recurved my door during door overhaul. Just slam it !
Iff you worry about the window then this is your chance to reseal it. Just take it and put a new seal behind it and then you are sure that wont let the water through
But of course be sure of the hinges firsht, make sure the door is square in the hole and lined op with the strikerplate

I am still fighting a leak in th e rear that was real bad on the paarking lot but is not leaking where the coach is now. Not easy to find a leak that is not leaking


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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248771 is a reply to message #248759] Tue, 29 April 2014 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon,
How did you check the bushings, is there play in them? I think mine are ok but I will check.

Rick

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'74 (re)Painted Desert

On Apr 28, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> how are your hinge bushings? mine are shot, and there is some gaps on the door. I am hoping to replace the bushings to see how the door fits. I have new bushings in hand, just need to get around to buying the hinge tool to pull the pins.
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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248773 is a reply to message #248771] Tue, 29 April 2014 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my original are plastic, and you can tell most are gone/shot. I can tell by looking at the hinge that the door is not square to the hole.

search for hinge on this page:
http://www.gmccoop.com/Archives/pose_archive.htm


I grabbed some bushings from Jim when I was in orlando in january. I think similar bushings can be found in the help isle.



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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248777 is a reply to message #248773] Tue, 29 April 2014 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahhh, thanks Jon. Now that I know what to look for I'll check mine.

Rick

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On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> my original are plastic, and you can tell most are gone/shot. I can tell by looking at the hinge that the door is not square to the hole.
>
> search for hinge on this page:
> http://www.gmccoop.com/Archives/pose_archive.htm
>
>
> I grabbed some bushings from Jim when I was in orlando in january. I think similar bushings can be found in the help isle.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248792 is a reply to message #248758] Tue, 29 April 2014 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[/quote]
What's interesting about all of this is that I apparently have the rain shield--I always assumed it was OEM but apparently not. Also, I see that I need to recurve my door one of these days even though my coach doesn't seem to suffer from middle age spread. I just don't like to see the gaps.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html

<a href="http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html" target="_blank"></a>[/quote]


Slight hijack here, but what is the name of that campground across the river from Laughlin, Bob? It looks like a nice place and I would like to look up the details.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248797 is a reply to message #248792] Tue, 29 April 2014 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 10:59




What's interesting about all of this is that I apparently have the rain shield--I always assumed it was OEM but apparently not. Also, I see that I need to recurve my door one of these days even though my coach doesn't seem to suffer from middle age spread. I just don't like to see the gaps.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html

<a href="http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html" target="_blank"></a>[/quote]


Slight hijack here, but what is the name of that campground across the river from Laughlin, Bob? It looks like a nice place and I would like to look up the details.[/quote]

Carl, I'm at work right now but it is Davis Dam County park and you can probably find it under Bullhead City AZ somewhere on Google. It's great parking right on the river and I recall it is about $17 with no hookups. The hook-up sites are not on the water and not very nice. You can walk over the bridge to Laughlin. Those river front sites can not be reserved and are usually packed on weekends but if you can arrive during the week you will be fine.


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Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248798 is a reply to message #248797] Tue, 29 April 2014 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 10:48

Carl S. wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 10:59




What's interesting about all of this is that I apparently have the rain shield--I always assumed it was OEM but apparently not. Also, I see that I need to recurve my door one of these days even though my coach doesn't seem to suffer from middle age spread. I just don't like to see the gaps.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html

<a href="http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html" target="_blank"></a>



Slight hijack here, but what is the name of that campground across the river from Laughlin, Bob? It looks like a nice place and I would like to look up the details.[/quote]

Carl, I'm at work right now but it is Davis Dam County park and you can probably find it under Bullhead City AZ somewhere on Google. It's great parking right on the river and I recall it is about $17 with no hookups. The hook-up sites are not on the water and not very nice. You can walk over the bridge to Laughlin. Those river front sites can not be reserved and are usually packed on weekends but if you can arrive during the week you will be fine.[/quote]


Okay, Thanks Bob.

We plan to take the GMC up there sometime. The last time we were in Laughlin was before we got the coach. It looks like a great weekend trip, as long as we could get there by Thursday evening.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Water leaks [message #248800 is a reply to message #248798] Tue, 29 April 2014 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 11:57

Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 10:48

Carl S. wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 10:59




What's interesting about all of this is that I apparently have the rain shield--I always assumed it was OEM but apparently not. Also, I see that I need to recurve my door one of these days even though my coach doesn't seem to suffer from middle age spread. I just don't like to see the gaps.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html

<a href="http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/laughlin/p48462-img-03821.html" target="_blank"></a>



Slight hijack here, but what is the name of that campground across the river from Laughlin, Bob? It looks like a nice place and I would like to look up the details.


Carl, I'm at work right now but it is Davis Dam County park and you can probably find it under Bullhead City AZ somewhere on Google. It's great parking right on the river and I recall it is about $17 with no hookups. The hook-up sites are not on the water and not very nice. You can walk over the bridge to Laughlin. Those river front sites can not be reserved and are usually packed on weekends but if you can arrive during the week you will be fine.[/quote]


Okay, Thanks Bob.

We plan to take the GMC up there sometime. The last time we were in Laughlin was before we got the coach. It looks like a great weekend trip, as long as we could get there by Thursday evening.[/quote]
I think you will like it. Since I posted those pictures, they changed the camping spots so that you can't pull right up to the water. You have to parallel park in front of the spot--not quite as nice but still OK--I guess they were worried about erosion of the waterfront.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] water leaks [message #264245 is a reply to message #248732] Tue, 14 October 2014 16:00 Go to previous message
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Many thanks to everyone who responded to my water leaks post. I had
forgotten about the squirrel cage fan & soap trick. I have procured a fan
and will be fitting it to the coach. Yes my coach is gutted and I have used
the water hose on the roof method. This has revealed several leaks.
Hopefully the fan will reveal the ones that let water run along the
aluminum frame channels at the belt line and roof line levels

Wish me luck and thanks again !!!!

Mark and Dawn
77 Kingsley (shell for now)
Eau Claire WI
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