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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247095 is a reply to message #247094] Fri, 11 April 2014 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Tony,

Look closely at that photo and you will see two sets of 4 holes just above the bumper where the ladder brackets were before it was
cut off and shortened.

If you buy this coach I'm sure you'll be able to find the parts to put it back where it belongs.

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony

I can not see how someone like me can get my first foot up onto that laddler.

Is this laddler on the back an EM design and factory?

When did they change the design to make them longer by bringing it down to the bumper to make it easier to climb?
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247096 is a reply to message #247095] Fri, 11 April 2014 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Fri, 11 April 2014 10:40

Tony,

Look closely at that photo and you will see two sets of 4 holes just above the bumper where the ladder brackets were before it was
cut off and shortened.

If you buy this coach I'm sure you'll be able to find the parts to put it back where it belongs.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony

I can not see how someone like me can get my first foot up onto that laddler.

Is this laddler on the back an EM design and factory?

When did they change the design to make them longer by bringing it down to the bumper to make it easier to climb?
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Tony

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At least the ladder Very Happy As I have one on the parts coach. Laughing


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247104 is a reply to message #246898] Fri, 11 April 2014 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder if Steve Ferguson has seen this 23? It might be just the one to tempt him.

Dennis

Ultravan Owners wrote on Wed, 09 April 2014 13:25

I'm looking for someone to please check out for me the GMC in the link below.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rvs/4404415561.html

Thank you, Tony



Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247139 is a reply to message #247104] Fri, 11 April 2014 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Dennis,

IIRC Steve was after a 23' Avion; however, you might be correct.

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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I wonder if Steve Ferguson has seen this 23? It might be just throne to tempt him.

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Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247151 is a reply to message #247094] Fri, 11 April 2014 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tony, I nearly ruptured myself getting up onto that ladder. Even stepping onto the top of the spare didn't make it much easier.

Something about the coach in question tickled my mind this morning. The headliner above the beds in the rear is not OEM. I had attributed that to an earlier water damage repair (and there is water damage and repair required to it now), but the more I think about it it might be that the coach was reconfigured.

Richard


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Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247171 is a reply to message #247151] Fri, 11 April 2014 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard V. wrote on Fri, 11 April 2014 16:32

... I nearly ruptured myself getting up onto that ladder. ...

... The headliner above the beds in the rear is not OEM. I had attributed that to an earlier water damage repair ...


You use the bumper as the first step. The shown ladder is the same as all three of my coaches.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-birchaven-rear-bath/p34936-1978-birchaven-rear-bath-from-ad-before-i-owned-it.html>
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5533/78BirchRB_ad004.jpg

The headliner shown in pictures 5 and 11, is "stock" Coachman headliner. It is a wallpaper like product over a thin plywood.
See: <http://www.bdub.net/publications/1976%20Birchhaven/1976_Birchaven.htm>

The headliner actually looks in fairly good shape, what little we can see in the provided pictures. If the glue fails, you can remove the paper and the bare plywood doesn't look that bad as long as long as there isn't much glue residue. (My rear bath is like this.... a little dark but not ugly.)
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-birchaven-rear-bath/p34944-1978-birchaven-rear-ba.html>
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5533/78BirchRB_ad012.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247175 is a reply to message #247171] Fri, 11 April 2014 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

You need to take another look at the ladder on the coach in Phoenix! ;-)

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller

You use the bumper as the first step. The shown ladder is the same as all three of my coaches.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-birchaven-rear-bath/p34936-1978-birchaven-rear-bath-from-ad-before-i-owned-it.html>

The headliner shown in pictures 5 and 11, is "stock" Coachman headliner. It is a wallpaper like product over a thin plywood.
See: <http://www.bdub.net/publications/1976%20Birchhaven/1976_Birchaven.htm>

The headliner actually looks in fairly good shape, what little we can see in the provided pictures. If the glue fails, you can
remove the paper and the bare plywood doesn't look that bad as long as long as there isn't much glue residue. (My rear bath is like
this.... a little dark but not ugly.)
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/1978-birchaven-rear-bath/p34944-1978-birchaven-rear-ba.html>

Mike

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247207 is a reply to message #247089] Sat, 12 April 2014 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is no telling what might have been done by a PO in an attempt to "freshen" the coach. This one had the carpet replaced, maybe the wall was damaged and replaced with what was available.

Moving the black tank would be no feat for the weekend tinkerer. The cabinet work on the bedroom side of the bathroom and fridge would give a more accurate fix on whether it was a factory job, especially the underside of the shortened wardrobe closet.

Then again, the transmode "factory T" for the generator fuel line on my coach came straight from the plumbing aisle of home depot, so I'm a little less in awe of "factory" work...


USAussie wrote on Fri, 11 April 2014 09:16



I hadn't noticed that the wall paneling next to the couch does not match the wall paneling next to the stove.

You're right it does look like something from a 1980's home improvement store.






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Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247216 is a reply to message #246898] Sat, 12 April 2014 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lord willing if all goes well we or I should have some more answers about this coach tonight or sometime tomorrow - after it has been seen.

Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247476 is a reply to message #246898] Tue, 15 April 2014 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After thinking about it and knowing that the seller is not willing to budge on his price along with what it will take to make this a nice coach again; I have decided to pass on it.

I got all excited about it having twin beds in the back and being the same size as our Ultravans.

However, Marie and I should be looking for a larger coach, with more sotrage for those longer trips and a coach that does not need as much work. Sadly I have too many projects with our Ultravan colloection to be thinking about another one.

I want to think Bob again for taking the time to check this GMC out. At least it was not for nothing. It has a different layout and the members here now have more information about it.

Bob has posted a new thread with more informtion about this GMC and a link to some pictures that he took.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=30615&start=0&rid=3252

I hope this coach goes to a good home soon!!

BTW - As of this morning my emails are not going out to members.
I'm not sure what I will do. I hate to have to add another email account. I can hardly keep up with the couple I have now.

Sincerely, Tony



Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Anyone near Superior, AZ to check out this GMC. [message #247491 is a reply to message #247476] Tue, 15 April 2014 11:00 Go to previous message
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Ultravan Owners wrote on Tue, 15 April 2014 07:45

After thinking about it and knowing that the seller is not willing to budge on his price along with what it will take to make this a nice coach again; I have decided to pass on it.

I got all excited about it having twin beds in the back and being the same size as our Ultravans.

However, Marie and I should be looking for a larger coach, with more sotrage for those longer trips and a coach that does not need as much work. Sadly I have too many projects with our Ultravan colloection to be thinking about another one.

I want to think Bob again for taking the time to check this GMC out. At least it was not for nothing. It has a different layout and the members here now have more information about it.

Bob has posted a new thread with more informtion about this GMC and a link to some pictures that he took.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=30615&start=0&rid=3252

I hope this coach goes to a good home soon!!

BTW - As of this morning my emails are not going out to members.
I'm not sure what I will do. I hate to have to add another email account. I can hardly keep up with the couple I have now.

Sincerely, Tony



Tony--it was fun going up to see the coach! I met some nice people and of course the scenery on the way up is amazing. The pictures really don't do the coach justice. It definitely needs updating and cosmetic maintenance, but there is something about it that shines through. I hope someone will take it on. Buying these coaches remotely is difficult Smile


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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