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lower door hinge [message #246012] Tue, 01 April 2014 10:56 Go to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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I understand this is a general problem, the PO made a bad repair expecting a thin plate af alu poped onto the door the hold. It did not
I inserted a block of alu bolted the hinge trough both the inner and outer side of the frame a little weld and it is better the new

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Re: lower door hinge [message #246142 is a reply to message #246012] Wed, 02 April 2014 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When something breaks there is alway a reason!
I put a new seal on the door and hung it back on the hinges and just as before I have to slam it to close
It looks like the bottom hist the body first and then brings pressure on the hinge
Maybe the door is more curved then the body ?
I could take it all apart again and move the hinge a bit but am not sure that is the right solution
Any input please ?


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246145 is a reply to message #246142] Wed, 02 April 2014 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You may have to re arc the door. Take a close look at the door when closed and while closing. If the hinge side of the door is in the same plane and arc as the body when closed but the handle edge is not, the door can be bent by shimming the closing side with wood under the area that is too far in then applying inward pressure to the other. If the door is too close to center line at either hinge routing the mounting hole in the door to a slight oval will give some in out adjustment.



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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:28 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk> wrote:
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> When something breaks there is alway a reason!
> I put a new seal on the door and hung it back on the hinges and just as before I have to slam it to close
> It looks like the bottom hist the body first and then brings pressure on the hinge
> Maybe the door is more curved then the body ?
> I could take it all apart again and move the hinge a bit but am not sure that is the right solution
> Any input please ?
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Re: lower door hinge [message #246165 is a reply to message #246012] Wed, 02 April 2014 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Todd
Did that and solved that problem
Next problem is the door is to low The bolt on the striker plate is worn down at the top
Have to take the door out again and do some more work on the hinges to lift the door up


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246249 is a reply to message #246165] Thu, 03 April 2014 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appie, is the door too low or the striker too high?

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:52 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk> wrote:
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> Thanks Todd
> Did that and solved that problem
> Next problem is the door is to low The bolt on the striker plate is worn down at the top
> Have to take the door out again and do some more work on the hinges to lift the door up
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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246254 is a reply to message #246249] Thu, 03 April 2014 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Todd

What is the difference?

It seems I cant move the striker? or the lock?

There is some free space in the upper hinge ( door can move up) none in the lower
My thought is to take some material of the lower hinge,and put a spacer moving the door upward some mm and see if that is enough


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246332 is a reply to message #246254] Thu, 03 April 2014 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the strike does not line up with the door latch but the door lines up with the body then you née to adjust the latch in the door. There is some adjustment there. I don't believe the strike is adjustable. It's been awhile since I assembled my door but iirc there is adjustment in the latch.

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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:30 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk> wrote:
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> Todd
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> What is the difference?
>
> It seems I cant move the striker? or the lock?
>
> There is some free space in the upper hinge ( door can move up) none in the lower
> My thought is to take some material of the lower hinge,and put a spacer moving the door upward some mm and see if that is enough
>
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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246346 is a reply to message #246332] Fri, 04 April 2014 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think some sagging of old age must be there
It seems now the door is square in the hole ( lifted the hinge a couple of mm)
but the rubrail does not fit with the rubrail of he body, if it did it would also line up with the striker
As it is now it is still to low and has to be slammed and the wife has told me to fix that!
The striker cant be moved as it fits threaded holes in the body
I could ovalize the holes in the striker plate


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246347 is a reply to message #246346] Fri, 04 April 2014 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Burt and Faye sell a door striker replacement plate. Worked fine for me.

Len and Pat
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I think some sagging of old age must be there It seems now the door is
square in the hole ( lifted the hinge a couple of mm) but the rubrail does
not fit with the rubrail of he body, if it did it would also line up with
the striker As it is now it is still to low and has to be slammed and the
wife has told me to fix that!
The striker cant be moved as it fits threaded holes in the body I could
ovalize the holes in the striker plate

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Re: lower door hinge [message #246349 is a reply to message #246012] Fri, 04 April 2014 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a new strikerplate on the way
But that will not solve this problem, I think it has been this way for a very long time as the top of the striker bolt is worn away


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246355 is a reply to message #246346] Fri, 04 April 2014 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apple
The striker doesn't fit threaded holes in the body. There are two steel plates with two threaded holes, one above the other, behind the door frame. This can be moved up and down. Be careful when removing the bolts as the plate can drop down and be difficult to retrieve. Loosen the bolts and take out one and file the door frame (ovalize it) so you can move the plate either up or down. Then reinsert the bolt and remove the other and repeat. Do this for the other plate as well. Now you can move the striker plate either up or down to align it.

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> On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:11 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk> wrote:
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> I think some sagging of old age must be there
> It seems now the door is square in the hole ( lifted the hinge a couple of mm)
> but the rubrail does not fit with the rubrail of he body, if it did it would also line up with the striker
> As it is now it is still to low and has to be slammed and the wife has told me to fix that!
> The striker cant be moved as it fits threaded holes in the body
> I could ovalize the holes in the striker plate
>
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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246362 is a reply to message #246355] Fri, 04 April 2014 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery Thank you
If we ever meet, drinks are on me

So much knowledge here !

I did that it was easy and the lock and bolt align perfectly now
Wife will be happy no more slamming !


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246366 is a reply to message #246362] Fri, 04 April 2014 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One thing I neglected to mention is that if you replace the Phillips head screws with hex head screws you can get them tighter and the latch won't loosen up as easily with use.

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 7:44 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk> wrote:
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> Emery Thank you
> If we ever meet, drinks are on me
>
> So much knowledge here !
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> I did that it was easy and the lock and bolt align perfectly now
> Wife will be happy no more slamming !
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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246369 is a reply to message #246366] Fri, 04 April 2014 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also removing the bolts one and a time and replacing them with 4" or so all-thread and a nut, will make it easier to replace the striker without loosing the nuts and backing plates. Of course reinstall the correct screws when you are finished.


Emery, Is ovalize a real word? My spell checker does not like it, but it sure describes what needed to be done.


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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246372 is a reply to message #246369] Fri, 04 April 2014 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I doubt that it's a real English word but I used it because that is what Apple used in the message that I replied to and so I felt that he would know that meant the same as enlongate which I normally would use.

I guess that I could have used the Danish word fortaenge, straekke or vaere, langstrakt but I would not have known whether to use the transitive or intransitive form. :)

Emery Stora

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Also removing the bolts one and a time and replacing them with 4" or so all-thread and a nut, will make it easier to replace the striker without loosing the nuts and backing plates. Of course reinstall the correct screws when you are finished.
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> Emery, Is ovalize a real word? My spell checker does not like it, but it sure describes what needed to be done.
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Re: [GMCnet] lower door hinge [message #246432 is a reply to message #246372] Sat, 05 April 2014 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just thought it was funny, but a very good description of what needed to be done.

Ken
emerystora wrote on Fri, 04 April 2014 10:14

Ken
I doubt that it's a real English word but I used it because that is what Apple used in the message that I replied to and so I felt that he would know that meant the same as enlongate which I normally would use.

I guess that I could have used the Danish word fortaenge, straekke or vaere, langstrakt but I would not have known whether to use the transitive or intransitive form. Smile

Emery Stora

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Also removing the bolts one and a time and replacing them with 4" or so all-thread and a nut, will make it easier to replace the striker without loosing the nuts and backing plates. Of course reinstall the correct screws when you are finished.
>
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> Emery, Is ovalize a real word? My spell checker does not like it, but it sure describes what needed to be done.
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Re: lower door hinge [message #246433 is a reply to message #246012] Sat, 05 April 2014 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am glad to be able to contribute to the english language.


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Re: lower door hinge [message #246434 is a reply to message #246012] Sat, 05 April 2014 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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UPS! http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ovalize

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Re: lower door hinge [message #246436 is a reply to message #246433] Sat, 05 April 2014 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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appie wrote on Sat, 05 April 2014 02:08

I am glad to be able to contribute to the english language.


I did not realize that you first posted it. I thought it was Emery.

The English language is loaded with words that came from other languages and unknown sources. I'm glad that I did not have to learn it as a second language.

What bothers me most is the way the British and Aussies have butchered good old American English. (TIC)

I once did a 7 month assignment reading and correcting books and manuals authored elsewhere (outside the US) in the company. We were at the time the second largest publisher in the world.

My job was to read them and Americanize the English used. It was kind of boring reading technical stuff that I was not interested in. Most of the job was eliminating / changing British words like "whilst" and spelling like "Centre".

It is interesting that I did that job whilst living on assignment in France.

These days every time I get a set of Chinese instructions written in English, I have to resist the urge to correct / Americanize them and send them back to the author.

The English language is a real mess. I have heard that Chinese is also that way.

Thanks for the new word Appie.


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Re: lower door hinge [message #246437 is a reply to message #246012] Sat, 05 April 2014 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yes Ken English is difficult, so many words and the us/english issue

But luckely as a foreigner I do not have to be correct all the time

As a mulitlanguist I have learned that the trick in speaking languages is to concentrate on what you DO understand and what you KNOW how to say in place of on what you do NOT understand and what you do NOT know how to say
And then just go for it, most people will want to understand you and accept you not being perfect.
So i speak spanish in spain and people will correct me, and I get better. Love it


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