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[GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245145] Wed, 26 March 2014 09:09 Go to next message
Peter Garry is currently offline  Peter Garry   United States
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Steve Adams noted that he has reduced his electrical loads so he could boondock for a week at a time. It is important to balance the demand with the supply and it is best to start on the demand side. In our North American lifestyles we tend to add electrical loads willy nilly and then just get bigger and bigger systems to generate the power needed. Motor homes are really bad at doing this, just look at those SOBs. Lifestyle in a motorhome can be made a balance between electrical needs and electrical generating. Those of you in the humid areas need compressor type air conditioners and that should be the largest load. In the west with hot dry air a 12volt swamp cooler should work. Can all the other electrical loads be supplied by a solar powered battery system? I think so, and will be going in that direction.
So here's my question. Has anybody worked out such a system? If so what battery capacity and what size photo voltaic cells were used?
Peter Garry
'73~ 23'. once a painted desert
Calgary Alberta

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Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245156 is a reply to message #245145] Wed, 26 March 2014 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to know where to purchase the most consistent good solar cells for a consistent good price.

what is the best size to fit the pod top and most energy from it? where else and what size would fit the top of a/c

and front above the windshield. how to put these together best and controller for them to use.

Also the best price for a swamp cooler that fits the 14 inch / 14 inch hole. also the best a/c to get period and why

for the same hole size if a person goes with a/c. An a/c that is smallest most economical in power use and cools like hell.

well not hell that is not cool. any help would be appreciated to save money and make sense. thank you in advance for ignoring

this as usual, now i am off to buy obama care, Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.


On Mar 26, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Peter Garry wrote:

> Steve Adams noted that he has reduced his electrical loads so he could boondock for a week at a time. It is important to balance the demand with the supply and it is best to start on the demand side. In our North American lifestyles we tend to add electrical loads willy nilly and then just get bigger and bigger systems to generate the power needed. Motor homes are really bad at doing this, just look at those SOBs. Lifestyle in a motorhome can be made a balance between electrical needs and electrical generating. Those of you in the humid areas need compressor type air conditioners and that should be the largest load. In the west with hot dry air a 12volt swamp cooler should work. Can all the other electrical loads be supplied by a solar powered battery system? I think so, and will be going in that direction.
> So here's my question. Has anybody worked out such a system? If so what battery capacity and what size photo voltaic cells were used?
> Peter Garry
> '73~ 23'. once a painted desert
> Calgary Alberta
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245289 is a reply to message #245156] Wed, 26 March 2014 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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mickeysss wrote on Wed, 26 March 2014 08:35

I would like to know where to purchase the most consistent good solar cells for a consistent good price.

what is the best size to fit the pod top and most energy from it? where else and what size would fit the top of a/c

and front above the windshield. how to put these together best and controller for them to use.

Also the best price for a swamp cooler that fits the 14 inch / 14 inch hole. also the best a/c to get period and why

for the same hole size if a person goes with a/c. An a/c that is smallest most economical in power use and cools like hell.

well not hell that is not cool. any help would be appreciated to save money and make sense. thank you in advance for ignoring

this as usual, now i am off to buy obama care, Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.


On Mar 26, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Peter Garry wrote:

> Steve Adams noted that he has reduced his electrical loads so he could boondock for a week at a time. It is important to balance the demand with the supply and it is best to start on the demand side. In our North American lifestyles we tend to add electrical loads willy nilly and then just get bigger and bigger systems to generate the power needed. Motor homes are really bad at doing this, just look at those SOBs. Lifestyle in a motorhome can be made a balance between electrical needs and electrical generating. Those of you in the humid areas need compressor type air conditioners and that should be the largest load. In the west with hot dry air a 12volt swamp cooler should work. Can all the other electrical loads be supplied by a solar powered battery system? I think so, and will be going in that direction.
> So here's my question. Has anybody worked out such a system? If so what battery capacity and what size photo voltaic cells were used?
> Peter Garry
> '73~ 23'. once a painted desert
> Calgary Alberta
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Mick,

Good luck with the Obamacare. I'll try to be of help anyway.

I think I have referred you to this info before:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6227-solar-battery-charging.html

http://gmcws.org/blog/?p=1463

( http://gmcws.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/GMC-Unplugged-by-Carl-Stouffer.pdf )

I have found this place to be very helpful and reasonably priced:

http://www.windsun.com/

I used this panel:

http://www.solar-electric.com/kyocera-kd140sx-ufbs-140-watt-polycrystalline-solar-panel.html

I may expand to this panel for the top of my AC at some point:

http://www.solar-electric.com/so55wamusomo.html

My system is somewhat of a compromise, but practical and affordable. I have recently converted all the lights we use to LEDs:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5703-led-lighting.html

If you drive your coach to Flagstaff, I would imagine they could install the whole system for you.

Good luck


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245291 is a reply to message #245145] Wed, 26 March 2014 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WildBill   Canada
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Some decent Canadian panel manufacturers, lost links, about a buck a watt. Figure out how much roof space you are willing for panels and hen see if you can afford it. More the better.

I'll use used cranking battery's for the time being. Free, 20 hour rate pretty much same as deep cycle but won't live as long with number of recharges, but hey are free. Good 8D sitting there. Prefer the 34!series with 3/8" stud posts, have to wait.
east penn has a good 34 series flooded for a pretty decent price with a 20 hour rate pretty similar to a 8D
Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245294 is a reply to message #245145] Thu, 27 March 2014 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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I have 2 panel on my roof, 1 on top of the aircon and 1 mounted on the old antenna mount
This seccond one can tilt and turn and that makes a huges difference Adjusting the panel can changes power dramaticly say from .5 to 4A here in our Northern parts


Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245298 is a reply to message #245289] Thu, 27 March 2014 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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thank you Carl

best regards i am printing this out. saves me a lot of trouble trying to figure out the options.
mickey a real fan of obama in the 21 first century. god bless us all and hope the 99 percent can survive.
we can live together and love each other for us all to be a great living proof that humanity can unit to survive.

77 palm beach. anaheim ca. Disneyland

On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

>
>
> mickeysss wrote on Wed, 26 March 2014 08:35
>> I would like to know where to purchase the most consistent good solar cells for a consistent good price.
>>
>> what is the best size to fit the pod top and most energy from it? where else and what size would fit the top of a/c
>>
>> and front above the windshield. how to put these together best and controller for them to use.
>>
>> Also the best price for a swamp cooler that fits the 14 inch / 14 inch hole. also the best a/c to get period and why
>>
>> for the same hole size if a person goes with a/c. An a/c that is smallest most economical in power use and cools like hell.
>>
>> well not hell that is not cool. any help would be appreciated to save money and make sense. thank you in advance for ignoring
>>
>> this as usual, now i am off to buy obama care, Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Peter Garry wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Adams noted that he has reduced his electrical loads so he could boondock for a week at a time. It is important to balance the demand with the supply and it is best to start on the demand side. In our North American lifestyles we tend to add electrical loads willy nilly and then just get bigger and bigger systems to generate the power needed. Motor homes are really bad at doing this, just look at those SOBs. Lifestyle in a motorhome can be made a balance between electrical needs and electrical generating. Those of you in the humid areas need compressor type air conditioners and that should be the largest load. In the west with hot dry air a 12volt swamp cooler should work. Can all the other electrical loads be supplied by a solar powered battery system? I think so, and will be going in that direction.
>>> So here's my question. Has anybody worked out such a system? If so what battery capacity and what size photo voltaic cells were used?
>>> Peter Garry
>>> '73~ 23'. once a painted desert
>>> Calgary Alberta
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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> Mick,
>
> Good luck with the Obamacare. I'll try to be of help anyway.
>
> I think I have referred you to this info before:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6227-solar-battery-charging.html
>
> http://gmcws.org/blog/?p=1463
>
> ( http://gmcws.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/GMC-Unplugged-by-Carl-Stouffer.pdf )
>
> I have found this place to be very helpful and reasonably priced:
>
> http://www.windsun.com/
>
> I used this panel:
>
> http://www.solar-electric.com/kyocera-kd140sx-ufbs-140-watt-polycrystalline-solar-panel.html
>
> I may expand to this panel for the top of my AC at some point:
>
> http://www.solar-electric.com/so55wamusomo.html
>
> My system is somewhat of a compromise, but practical and affordable. I have recently converted all the lights we use to LEDs:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5703-led-lighting.html
>
> If you drive your coach to Flagstaff, I would imagine they could install the whole system for you.
>
> Good luck
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] Solar Panel Updates [message #245329 is a reply to message #245145] Thu, 27 March 2014 11:40 Go to previous message
Steve is currently offline  Steve   United States
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Peter Garry wrote on Wed, 26 March 2014 10:09

Steve Adams noted that he has reduced his electrical loads so he could boondock for a week at a time. It is important to balance the demand with the supply and it is best to start on the demand side. In our North American lifestyles we tend to add electrical loads willy nilly and then just get bigger and bigger systems to generate the power needed. Motor homes are really bad at doing this, just look at those SOBs. Lifestyle in a motorhome can be made a balance between electrical needs and electrical generating. Those of you in the humid areas need compressor type air conditioners and that should be the largest load. In the west with hot dry air a 12volt swamp cooler should work. Can all the other electrical loads be supplied by a solar powered battery system? I think so, and will be going in that direction.
So here's my question. Has anybody worked out such a system? If so what battery capacity and what size photo voltaic cells were used?
Peter Garry
'73~ 23'. once a painted desert
Calgary Alberta

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Peter,
Thanks for further clarifying my point. The demand side of the equation is critical. With the fridge and heat on propane and not requiring electric I can reduce the demand primarily to high efficiency LED lighting and water pump. When the sun goes down we have a camp fire and then go to bed. No need to stay up half the night with the lights and other accessories running. Then we are ready to get up early when the sun comes up. I use solar power too, just not through solar panels. When the sun goes down I sleep and when the sun comes up I enjoy all of that free solar light energy. Too much out there to see and enjoy.

Just what I do.

It works for finances too. Control the demand side of the equation and you will be much better off.
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