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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #244626 is a reply to message #244586] |
Sat, 22 March 2014 06:11   |
Kingsley Coach
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Over the years I've seen a few sets for sale at rallys. Never heard a good
word about them, just the theory about how they worked...
For what it's worth ...
Mike in NS
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Jon,
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> These rings are filled with mercury and work the same way balancing beads
> in the tires work.
>
> Here's the same thing for a Harley-Davidson crankshaft:
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> https://www.balancemasters.com/hotbikespread.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Roche
>
> Asking for a friend. I am too cheap for these.
>
> http://mrtruck.com/mrtruck/wp-content/uploads/old/centramatic.htm
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #244644 is a reply to message #244586] |
Sat, 22 March 2014 09:24 |
mikethebike
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FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft' on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife & fork connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube with the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with ZERO balance problems.
I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They also make them for wheels.
And...FWIW...ALL washing machines use the same type of balancing system. They just aren't good for RACE vehicles because they cannot react fast enough to the rapidly changing 'G' loads of a race car/bike.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245494 is a reply to message #245493] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20 |
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USAussie
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You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
I stand by my statement!!
Back to you.
USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
> Mike,
>
> A bit more info for you to review:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
>
> and:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
>
> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing with semantics! ;)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike foster
>
> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft' on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
fork
> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
>
> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
with
> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with ZERO balance problems.
>
> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
> also make them for wheels.
>
>
>
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245500 is a reply to message #245494] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 09:38 |
mikethebike
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I don't ride a 2003..I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new newfangled push button starter things!!
Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in corporate jets with the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that was around 2003!!
Your turn!!
| USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20 |
You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
I stand by my statement!!
Back to you.
USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
> Mike,
>
> A bit more info for you to review:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
>
> and:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
>
> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing with semantics! 
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike foster
>
> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft' on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
fork
> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
>
> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
with
> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with ZERO balance problems.
>
> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
> also make them for wheels.
>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245539 is a reply to message #245500] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 13:56 |
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Wasn't 1977 during the years Harleys were being made by the bowling alley builders?
Mac in OKC (waiting for delivery of a 2014 Tri-glide)
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:39, "mike foster" <mafoster1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't ride a 2003..I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new newfangled push button starter things!!
>
> Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in corporate jets with the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that was around 2003!!
>
> Your turn!!
>
>
> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20
>> You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.ara
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
>>
>> But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
>> CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
>>
>> I stand by my statement!!
>>
>> Back to you.
>>
>> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> A bit more info for you to review:
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
>>
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
>>>
>>> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing with semantics! ;)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob M.
>>> Sydney, Australia
>>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mike foster
>>>
>>> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft' on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
>> fork
>>> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
>>>
>>> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
>>> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
>> with
>>> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
>>> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with ZERO balance problems.
>>>
>>> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
>>> also make them for wheels.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245541 is a reply to message #245539] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 14:14 |
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American Machine Foundry
Bought them in 1969 and saved them from the UJM's (Honda was the only other bidder and the family took a lower offer from AMF to keep them American). Made some very good improvements but towards the end they just pumped out the bikes without any QC.
| k2gkk wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 13:56 |
Wasn't 1977 during the years Harleys were being made by the bowling alley builders?
Mac in OKC (waiting for delivery of a 2014 Tri-glide)
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:39, "mike foster" <mafoster1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't ride a 2003..I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new newfangled push button starter things!!
>
> Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in corporate jets with the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that was around 2003!!
>
> Your turn!!
>
>
> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20
>> You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.ara
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
>>
>> But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
>> CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
>>
>> I stand by my statement!!
>>
>> Back to you.
>>
>> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> A bit more info for you to review:
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
>>
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
>>>
>>> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing with semantics!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob M.
>>> Sydney, Australia
>>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mike foster
>>>
>>> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft' on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
>> fork
>>> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
>>>
>>> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
>>> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
>> with
>>> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
>>> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with ZERO balance problems.
>>>
>>> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
>>> also make them for wheels.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245566 is a reply to message #245541] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 17:33 |
Kingsley Coach
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That's like a new HD....a 1977 !
Now if a REAL HD is determined by the lack of a push button starter, mine
is 'realer' than yours....50 pan.
Mike in NS
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:14 PM, mike foster <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>
> American Machine Foundry
>
> Bought them in 1969 and saved them from the UJM's (Honda was the only
> other bidder and the family took a lower offer from AMF to keep them
> American). Made some very good improvements but towards the end they just
> pumped out the bikes without any QC.
>
>
> k2gkk wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 13:56
> > Wasn't 1977 during the years Harleys were being made by the bowling
> alley builders?
> >
> > Mac in OKC (waiting for delivery of a 2014 Tri-glide)
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:39, "mike foster" <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't ride a 2003..I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL
> Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new
> newfangled push button starter things!!
> > >
> > > Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they
> stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in corporate jets with
> the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that
> was around 2003!!
> > >
> > > Your turn!!
> > >
> > >
> > > USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20
> > >> You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Rob M.ara
> > >> Sydney, Australia
> > >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:
> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
> > >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
> > >>
> > >> But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the
> Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
> > >> CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to
> the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
> > >>
> > >> I stand by my statement!!
> > >>
> > >> Back to you.
> > >>
> > >> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
> > >>> Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> A bit more info for you to review:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> and:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing
> with semantics! ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Rob M.
> > >>> Sydney, Australia
> > >>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > >>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: mike foster
> > >>>
> > >>> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft'
> on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
> > >> fork
> > >>> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
> > >>>
> > >>> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other
> items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
> > >>> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that
> is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
> > >> with
> > >>> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built
> to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
> > >>> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with
> ZERO balance problems.
> > >>>
> > >>> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the
> front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
> > >>> also make them for wheels.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245582 is a reply to message #245566] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 19:24 |
mikethebike
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But...did you buy yours NEW!!
Straight leg frame?
My best friend back in Charleston, SC rode a 53 pan/springer/jockey shift/foot clutch and NO FRONT brake!!! His call sign was Panhead-Larry...real name Larry Morris. He moved to Colorado in 85 or 86 and we moved here in 87 and he and I lost contact.
I'm the only guy he ever allowed to ride that bike back then and I got about 200 yards from our house on James Island, managed to get it stopped without dropping it and yelled for him to come get the thing! How you ride one set up like that is beyond me.
| Kingsley Coach wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 17:33 |
That's like a new HD....a 1977 !
Now if a REAL HD is determined by the lack of a push button starter, mine
is 'realer' than yours....50 pan.
Mike in NS
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:14 PM, mike foster <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>
> American Machine Foundry
>
> Bought them in 1969 and saved them from the UJM's (Honda was the only
> other bidder and the family took a lower offer from AMF to keep them
> American). Made some very good improvements but towards the end they just
> pumped out the bikes without any QC.
>
>
> k2gkk wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 13:56
> > Wasn't 1977 during the years Harleys were being made by the bowling
> alley builders?
> >
> > Mac in OKC (waiting for delivery of a 2014 Tri-glide)
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:39, "mike foster" <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't ride a 2003..I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL
> Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new
> newfangled push button starter things!!
> > >
> > > Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they
> stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in corporate jets with
> the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that
> was around 2003!!
> > >
> > > Your turn!!
> > >
> > >
> > > USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 09:20
> > >> You conveniently ignored the 2003 Harley Davidson manual.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Rob M.ara
> > >> Sydney, Australia
> > >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:
> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of mike foster
> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:11 AM
> > >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Balancing
> > >>
> > >> But that is from a CLYMER manual...in chapter 3 page 36 of the
> Harley-Davidson Factory Service Manual, Item 6 is referenced as
> > >> CONNECTING ROD and FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY. Nowhere does the FSM refer to
> the flywheel assembly as a crankshaft.
> > >>
> > >> I stand by my statement!!
> > >>
> > >> Back to you.
> > >>
> > >> USAussie wrote on Fri, 28 March 2014 00:55
> > >>> Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> A bit more info for you to review:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6578-info-for-mike-the-bike.html
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> and:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW now I am F'n with you just the way you F'd with me by playing
> with semantics!
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Rob M.
> > >>> Sydney, Australia
> > >>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > >>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: mike foster
> > >>>
> > >>> FLYWHEELS. On a Harley, they are flywheels. There is no 'crankshaft'
> on a Harley V-Twin. There is a CRANK-PIN where the knife &
> > >> fork
> > >>> connecting rods attach, but no crankshaft.
> > >>>
> > >>> These work on the same Newtons 3-rd law that Dyna-Beads and other
> items such as these. There are some very good videos on YouTube
> > >>> showing what happens with ball bearings on a trailer wheel-tire that
> is about 8 oz out of balance then in balance and the tube
> > >> with
> > >>> the bearings is not an engineered item just something the guy built
> to illustrate that the system does indeed work. I have the
> > >>> DynaBeads in the BMW motorcycle tires and have seen 145 on it with
> ZERO balance problems.
> > >>>
> > >>> I plan to install the BalanceMasters retrofit items on both the
> front primary sprocket and the clutch basket on my 1977 XLCH. They
> > >>> also make them for wheels.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245603 is a reply to message #245500] |
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Mike,
You still ignored the FACT that the 2003 Harley-Davidson Manual uses the term crankshaft.
Instead you decided to head off on a tangent that is totally irrelevant to the subject.
In 1965 Harley introduced the Electra-Glide with an electric starter so by your standards it's not a REAL Harley-Davidson, eh? Nor
are any of the subsequent Shovelhead, Evo, or Twin Cam Big Twins with electric starters?
As far as the 1977 XLCH being a REAL Harley-Davidson goes when I rode into Kings Cross here in Sydney in 1981 on the 1979 Sportster
XLH I imported from the USA the Big Twin Harley riders poked fun at me because I wasn't riding a REAL Harley. They called it a
training Harley or a girls Harley. It appears that in 1987 Harley-Davidson agreed and started the XLH buyback program.
Since you seem like to brag about things you and or your friends have done I'll follow suit.
I can't remember the date but back in the middle 1990's as the Secretary of the Harley Owners Group in Hong Kong I had the pleasure
of having dinner with Richard Teerlink (HD CEO) and Willie G. Davidson (HD Senior Vice President & Chief Styling Officer) and their
wives in Hong Kong after they joined us on our regular Sunday ride. They were most interested in the ride we had just had up in
China; we shipped our bikes up to Tianjin (Beijing's port) and then headed for Shanhaiguan District, in Qinhuangdao, Hebei, China
where the Great Wall of China meets the sea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great_wall_stops_in_see.jpg
From there we followed it's route back to Beijing over a period of 10 days (Chinese New Years Holidays) we stopped for a photo op at
the Badaling section of the wall just outside Beijing where this photo was taken:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/random-photos/p43253-1988-hd.html
I can't seem to find the picture but we carried a Sportster up onto the wall and then rode it up and down a short section of the
wall.
We also rode from:
Hong Kong to Shanghai, PRC
Hong Kong to Guilin, PRC
We shipped our Harley's to:
Jakarta, Indonesia and rode to Bali
Perth, Australia and rode east to Kalgoorlie, south to Esperance, and back to Perth
Christchurch, New Zealand and rode around the South Island
Los Angeles, California and rode to Vegas, Sturgis, and San Francisco
Johannesburg, South Africa and rode to Capetown
Your turn!!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: mike foster
I don't ride a 2003. I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL Harley-Davidson....you know...the kind that does not have one of those new
newfangled push button starter things!!
Harley-Davidson stopped being run by motorcyclists about the time they stopped RIDING to Daytona and started FLYING there in
corporate jets with the bikes transported in a semi...as memory might fail me but I think that was around 2003!!
Your turn!!
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245616 is a reply to message #245603] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 22:31 |
Ken Henderson
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Come on, you kids. If you want to have a spitting contest about something
besides GMC's, take it out to the back of the schoolyard so the rest of us
don't have to listen.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You still ignored the FACT that the 2003 Harley-Davidson Manual uses the
> term crankshaft.
>
> Instead you decided to head off on a tangent that is totally irrelevant
> to the subject.
> ...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike foster
>
> I don't ride a 2003. I ride a 1977 XLCH...a REAL Harley-Davidson....you
> know...the kind that does not have one of those new newfangled push
> button starter things!!
> ...
> Etc., ad nauseum...
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Balancing [message #245619 is a reply to message #245616] |
Fri, 28 March 2014 22:40 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
No worries mate, I'm over it.
As noted Jim Hupy's message made me realize I got sucked in and it won't happen again.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Come on, you kids. If you want to have a spitting contest about something
besides GMC's, take it out to the back of the schoolyard so the rest of us
don't have to listen.
Ken H.
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