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Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243330] Thu, 13 March 2014 11:28 Go to next message
mickey szilagyi is currently offline  mickey szilagyi   United States
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Thanks to a bunch of you and your advice we're about to purchase some 10/2 AWG Tinned Marine Boat Duplex Wire to use in wiring our macerator. Since we're buying it we're wondering how much to get and figure we might as well get enough in case we need it for something else. But, we don't know what else we might need it for. Hence, this question.

What else on the GMC coach might we use 10/2 electrical wire for and approximately how much in length would we need for each application?

In case someone else is looking for this wire it's on ebay and the guy lists it all the time so there's no rush in getting it. He sells it in various lengths. His price is the best we could find for the type of wire it is - free shipping too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300837721843?_trksid=p2055120.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

A second question while we're at it. A number of you offered advice as to what switch and circuit breaker to use. We're looking at 12V 20A for both. However, we've seen several marine 12V circuit breakers similar to what we use in home electrical systems in that they trip when there's an overload but could also act as a switch. Would using the circuit breaker as a switch as well wear it out over time - good or bad idea? Your thoughts appreciated.

Thanks again to all,


Mickey 1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI

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Re: Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243332 is a reply to message #243330] Thu, 13 March 2014 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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You really do not need to run equal lengths of wire for powering the Macarator. You can use a short run for the return or ground.
Just need enough red wire to run to the unit. Never hurts to have too much on hand. Depending upon which battery or where you are going to access for the power determines the length you might need (add 10%). A roll of 25 ft should do the trick.
Be sure a use terminals for the ends and crimp using a good crimper. Wire does not need to be soldered to the terminal if you crimp good enough. Hint: The typical hand crimper that looks like a pair of scissors cannot produce enough pressure to properly crimp the terminals at this gauge.
20 a breaker is enough. A separate switch is nice.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243386 is a reply to message #243332] Thu, 13 March 2014 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

I suggest you install the macerator with one of these connectors; it will make your life a lot easier if and when you need to remove
it!

Tiny URL : http://tinyurl.com/nkqf9al

Full URL:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Contact-Flat-molded-10G-Connectors-Lot-of-10-/161054083933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257f924b5d

They sell them with 10 / 12 / 14 /16 /18 gage wire:

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/mvt6hns

Full URL:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XTwo-Contact+Flat+molded+Connectors+&_nkw=Two-Contact+Flat+mo
lded+Connectors+&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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You really do not need to run equal lengths of wire for powering the Macarator. You can use a short run for the return or ground.
Just need enough red wire to run to the unit. Never hurts to have too much on hand. Depending upon which battery or where you are
going to access for the power determines the length you might need (add 10%). A roll of 25 ft should do the trick.
Be sure a use terminals for the ends and crimp using a good crimper. Wire does not need to be soldered to the terminal if you
crimp good enough. Hint: The typical hand crimper that looks like a pair of scissors cannot produce enough pressure to properly
crimp the terminals at this gauge.
20 a breaker is enough. A separate switch is nice.
Tom,

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Re: [GMCnet] Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243415 is a reply to message #243386] Thu, 13 March 2014 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess your macerators are different than mine. I just checked it, and it draws 4.3 amps while running, and about 10 amps at startup. (Didn't bother to put the storage scope on it.) It does not blow a 5 amp slow blow fuse. In my book, that say's even #12 wire in overkill. Since the wire is only about 6' long, drop is not really much of an issue.

Just what I measured. (Yes, I was dumping the tank, not running dry.)


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Re: [GMCnet] Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243547 is a reply to message #243415] Fri, 14 March 2014 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait until your macerator hits something really chewey and it bogs down and then draws a whole lot of current and blows your fuse or circuit breaker. Then you would wish you had heavier gauge wiring.

I have been using a macerator in motor homes since I put one on my Travco motorhome back in 1973 so I now have 41 years of experience with various macerators. Years ago I used lighter gauge wires but I soon determined there were a lot less troubles when I switched to heavier wires.

Emery Stora

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> I guess your macerators are different than mine. I just checked it, and it draws 4.3 amps while running, and about 10 amps at startup. (Didn't bother to put the storage scope on it.) It does not blow a 5 amp slow blow fuse. In my book, that say's even #12 wire in overkill. Since the wire is only about 6' long, drop is not really much of an issue.
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> Just what I measured. (Yes, I was dumping the tank, not running dry.)
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Re: Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243549 is a reply to message #243330] Fri, 14 March 2014 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I googled macerator and pulled up a jabesco at 16 amps first hit. Probably has 14 gauge coming out of motor. During a jam, voltage drop or sufficient amps can both cook the motor, I would probably prefer more amps.

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Re: Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243731 is a reply to message #243330] Sun, 16 March 2014 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
habbyguy is currently offline  habbyguy   United States
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My beloved PO installed the macerator with a self-resetting circuit breaker next to it. That's come in handy when the macerator bogs down for some reason, and saves you from having to swap out fuses when you're in line at the dump station.

Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: Using 10/2 for macerator wiring [message #243898 is a reply to message #243731] Mon, 17 March 2014 08:50 Go to previous message
corleyw is currently offline  corleyw   United States
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Might also be worth mentioning that if a wire is in a bundle or wire loom, as opposed to being out in open air, a rule of thumb is to increase one wire size, due to the combined heat that could occur. (Most wire charts seem to show current ratings for open air wires.)

Just a thought, nothing more...


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