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Tue, 11 March 2014 21:03  |
jhbridges
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I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit. Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had replaced the inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry. Popped the flex linr to the pump input. dry. blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly. Swapped tanks, samesame. No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T skirt. I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to destination in Shepherdsville KY. I can get it home this way, but it qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the park operator, I'll call them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be on the engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one doesn't pan out.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243077 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:17  |
Chris Grant
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Have you checked the carb filter?
I keep a couple spare in the coach at all times. WIX 33048.
It's right at the inlet to the carb. If you take it apart to check, be sure to save the little white plastic gasket that sits in the filter housing. If you reinstall without the gasket you'll end up with a fire on your hands. Run the engine with the hatch up after you reassemble to be 100% sure you've got no fuel leakage.
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> On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit. Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had replaced the inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry. Popped the flex linr to the pump input. dry. blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly. Swapped tanks, samesame. No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T skirt. I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to destination in Shepherdsville KY. I can get it home this way, but it qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the park operator, I'll call them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be on the engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one doesn't pan out.
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243079 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:24 |
Steve
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Sorry to hear of your trouble. Good strategy to make it the last 20 miles. Can't limp a modern SOB home that way. I drove home the first day with a 6 gallon marine tank sitting on the passenger seat with the fuel line running out the window and down to the fuel pump
I am sure you will get some good trouble shooting ideas.
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243081 is a reply to message #243079] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:30 |
corleyw
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Since you are running out of a 5 gallon can, it's definitely not filter in the carb inlet. Forget that...
Sounds like it's time to crawl under and examine the selector valve area, and the hoses/lines from it towards the front. Of course, when you select the other tank, you ASSUME the selector valve is actually working, you may be working out of only one tank.
Good luck...
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243082 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:33 |
Ken Burton
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My first impression is a bad fuel pump.
Also if you opened the line on the input side of the mechanical fuel pump any and all gasoline remaining in the line will run out of the line and back to the tank. Then the mechanical pump has a very difficult time pumping all of the air out of it and getting fuel again. I have had to pressurize the fuel tank slightly with shop air and a rag on the fill tube to get fuel back to the pump again to prime it again.
If you have an inline added electric fuel pump it will take care of that problem.
Did you try disconnecting the fuel line at the carb and cranking the engine to see if you have any fuel being pumped there?
Any crack in the fuel system from the pump back through the selector valve all the way to the tank will cause the pump to suck air. A common one to do this is the hose between the frame and the inlet side of the mechanical pump.
I'm still guessing a bad fuel pump or bad carb inlet filter.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243087 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:49 |
cbryan
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Johnny,
Sorry to hear of this turn of luck. My coach has had those problems suddenly running out of gas with tanks showing gas. The PO had bypassed the selector valve, and cross connected the tanks. So first tank dry, all dry.
If your selector valve wasn't getting the electrical signal, same situation. You would move the switch and the fuel gauge would switch, but the selector valve would not switch.
Well done on getting down the road. Enough said.
I did that NASCAR trick of weaving back and forth and got two miles extra until a gas station exit, but ran out on the uphill. Five gallons and running again.
I believe some of those pricey replacement sending units and pickup units are actually not reaching the bottom of the tanks.
So, Johnny, you might be transporting gas you can't use.
Dropping tanks in your future. Dogs will like so they can lick your face. Before you get going home, fill the tanks to the top, reconnect the line back to the fuel pump and there is a very good chance you would do fine. Then keep the tanks above half. Try this before spending bux on the repair folks. They will be mystified by the fuel system, unless you can explain, and you will fix it quicker than the time it takes to explain to them.
Best,
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243088 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:44 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
From the symptoms you describe, it's almost got to be the selector valve.
Just get enough hose and 2 splice connectors (or two pieces of 3/8" steel
line) bypass the selector valve to either of the tanks. Use Lock Grips to
close the tank line while you've got it disconnected. You can run home
with about 44 g. of tank capacity available.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit.
> Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had replaced the
> inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry. Popped the flex linr to the pump
> input. dry. blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly. Swapped tanks,
> samesame. No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T
> skirt. I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to
> destination in Shepherdsville KY. I can get it home this way, but it
> qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the
> park operator, I'll call them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see
> where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be
> on the engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to
> look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one doesn't pan out.
>
> --johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243091 is a reply to message #243088] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 21:53 |
cbryan
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Johnny,
Ken said it better, eliminate the selector valve. It will get you home but fill that five gallon can you have in case you have inaccurate and tricky fuel gauges.
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243094 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 22:00 |
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Johnny,
I'm sorry but what you've noted below is not 100% clear to me, I have interspersed questions / comments in CAPS for clarity - NOT
SHOUTING!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:04 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit. Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had
replaced the inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry.
YOU DISCONNECTED THE LINE WHERE IT ENTERS THE CARB FUEL FILTER?
Popped the flex linr to the pump input. dry.
YOU DISCONNECTED THE RUBBER LINE FROM THE MECHANICAL PUMP INLET?
blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly.
YOU BLEW INTO THE RUBBER LINE DISCONNECTED FROM THE PUMP INLET AND BLEW INTO THAT LINE?
Swapped tanks, samesame.
YOU SWITCHED FROM MAIN TO AUX WITH SAME RESULT?
No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T skirt.
NO COMMENT
I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to destination in Shepherdsville KY.
WHERE DID YOU CONNECT THE FOUR FEET OF HOSE - TO THE CARB OR TO THE FUEL PUMP?
I can get it home this way, but it qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the park operator, I'll call
them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be on the
engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one
doesn't pan out.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243095 is a reply to message #243075] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 22:04 |
cbryan
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Johnny,
Fire hazard with the T-Skirt gas. It's probably the hose to the ball check valve up in the wheel well on the outside. Or a cracked case to it. Probably worse with respect to keeping the tanks topped up. I don't have a solution.
What I would do if faced with this is to just cut the line back to where it is good and plug it back into the ball check housing. If feasible. In a dire emergency, I would squeeze the line closed with little vice grips and see if it would drive that way, or as a last resort loosen the gas cap and put up with the fumes. Better than liquid gas.
Ken Burton, Ken Henderson and I were writing at the same time. Looking at all three, I like Ken Burton's estimate of the situation best, Ken Henderson next and not much of mine. Just wanted to help, but I think they are very much more likely to be correct. Please follow their lead before mine. Ken Burton because presumably the tanks were working fine, then nothing. That would entail a particular failure of the selector valve combined with a failure of one or both of the fuel gauges since they both were working previously. Slap a fuel pump on it, or if you please plumb the four foot line to the pump inlet. I suspect given the scenario presented that you plumbed the tank into the carb, though the siphon scenario is messy and dangerous. If you used the fuel pump, that tilts toward Ken Henderson's idea. It wouldn't actually hurt to do it to eliminate the fuel selector valve unless there was a big air leak in one of them, but you got gurgling from both settings from the switch. I assume the ignition switch was on for both tests of the gurgling? If you fill it to the top, it might prime the mechanical pump for you. You know the trick to loosen the top nut of the air cleaner, pour gas into the depression, let it drain down, tighten, start engine, repeat until it primes. Works for cars with hoods, scenario changes for indoors motors. Wipe up gas on top of cleaner, throw rag far away outside, start.
I do love the electric pump switched from driver's position as backup behind the mechanical for the carbed engines. Good enough for aircraft, they don't seem to worry about ruptured diaphragms loading the crankcase up with gasoline. Some show a fuel pressure loss sucking through the electric pump, put check valves around to bypass for a sanitary solution, but added complexity. I think Jim Bounds puts a pump on the auxiliary tank only so when vapor lock calls, switch to that tank and apparently presto, your problems are gone.
I can only imagine your work load in the next few days. Good luck with your dogs and coach.
Best,
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243138 is a reply to message #243077] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:23 |
jhbridges
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Thanks, RFC (Read for comprehension :) :) ) Dry at the inlet, and dry where the flex hose hits the crossmember. Fram is a CG3389, I've one on hand at all times.
---johnny
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
Have you checked the carb filter?
I keep a couple spare in the coach at all times. WIX 33048.
It's right at the inlet to the carb. If you take it apart to check, be sure to save the little white plastic gasket that sits in the filter housing. If you reinstall without the gasket you'll end up with a fire on your hands. Run the engine with the hatch up after you reassemble to be 100% sure you've got no fuel leakage.
All typos, misspellings, grammatical and/or factual errors are property of Apple, inc. and the iPhone virtual QWERTY keyboard.
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit. Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had replaced the inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry. Popped the flex linr to the pump input. dry. blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly. Swapped tanks, samesame. No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T skirt. I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to destination in Shepherdsville KY. I can get it home this way, but it qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the park operator, I'll call them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be on the engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one doesn't pan out.
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> --johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243139 is a reply to message #243079] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:26 |
jhbridges
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They didn't have but 4 feet of hose at Advance, so I'm motoring with the hatch slid back a couple of inches. Got a piece of Force to keep the hose out of the belts.
(Force = duct tape: It has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together)
--johnny
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From: Steve Adams <sjadams@ptd.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
Sorry to hear of your trouble. Good strategy to make it the last 20 miles. Can't limp a modern SOB home that way. I drove home the first day with a 6 gallon marine tank sitting on the passenger seat with the fuel line running out the window and down to the fuel pump
I am sure you will get some good trouble shooting ideas.
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1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243141 is a reply to message #243081] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:28 |
jhbridges
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I made the ssumption because the valve worked the last time I needed... but it may well of gone Dixie on me.
thanks,
Johnny
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
Since you are running out of a 5 gallon can, it's definitely not filter in the carb inlet. Forget that...
Sounds like it's time to crawl under and examine the selector valve area, and the hoses/lines from it towards the front. Of course, when you select the other tank, you ASSUME the selector valve is actually working, you may be working out of only one tank.
Good luck...
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'76 Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243142 is a reply to message #243082] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:30 |
jhbridges
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Since the pump pulls outa the can easily, not the trouble. New hoses (supposedly, but who knows) at any rate the pump inlet hose is good. No gas coming to it. Slowing towards the tanks gets minor bulles and the just air.
--johnny
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From: Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
My first impression is a bad fuel pump.
Also if you opened the line on the input side of the mechanical fuel pump any and all gasoline remaining in the line will run out of the line and back to the tank. Then the mechanical pump has a very difficult time pumping all of the air out of it and getting fuel again. I have had to pressurize the fuel tank slightly with shop air and a rag on the fill tube to get fuel back to the pump again to prime it again.
If you have an inline added electric fuel pump it will take care of that problem.
Did you try disconnecting the fuel line at the carb and cranking the engine to see if you have any fuel being pumped there?
Any crack in the fuel system from the pump back through the selector valve all the way to the tank will cause the pump to suck air. A common one to do this is the hose between the frame and the inlet side of the mechanical pump.
I'm still guessing a bad fuel pump or bad carb inlet filter.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243144 is a reply to message #243088] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:32 |
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I think you have the idea.. I'm here till Monday, working the show all week, but off afternoons. I'll have a look under there tomorrow.
--thanks,
Johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
Johnny,
From the symptoms you describe, it's almost got to be the selector valve.
Just get enough hose and 2 splice connectors (or two pieces of 3/8" steel
line) bypass the selector valve to either of the tanks. Use Lock Grips to
close the tank line while you've got it disconnected. You can run home
with about 44 g. of tank capacity available.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit.
> Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had replaced the
> inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry. Popped the flex linr to the pump
> input. dry. blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly. Swapped tanks,
> samesame. No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T
> skirt. I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to
> destination in Shepherdsville KY. I can get it home this way, but it
> qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the
> park operator, I'll call them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see
> where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be
> on the engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to
> look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one doesn't pan out.
>
> --johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243145 is a reply to message #243094] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 08:36 |
jhbridges
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yes, yes, yes, and to the fuel pump. For whatever reason, it isn't getting gas into the crossover line on the front crossmember. I think Ken and Corey have me looking in the right direction.
Weather is lousy here today, I'll skin under there tomorrow and have a gander.
--johnny
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
Johnny,
I'm sorry but what you've noted below is not 100% clear to me, I have interspersed questions / comments in CAPS for clarity - NOT
SHOUTING!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:04 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
I was 20 miles from the rv park in KY and teh coach sputtered and quit. Like it ran out of gas, but half there. Since I never had
replaced the inlet filter, I popped the line. Dry.
YOU DISCONNECTED THE LINE WHERE IT ENTERS THE CARB FUEL FILTER?
Popped the flex linr to the pump input. dry.
YOU DISCONNECTED THE RUBBER LINE FROM THE MECHANICAL PUMP INLET?
blowing tpowards the tank, gurgle onkly.
YOU BLEW INTO THE RUBBER LINE DISCONNECTED FROM THE PUMP INLET AND BLEW INTO THAT LINE?
Swapped tanks, samesame.
YOU SWITCHED FROM MAIN TO AUX WITH SAME RESULT?
No obvious leaks underneath, but fuel apatters on the left T skirt.
NO COMMENT
I got a five gallon can and four feet of hose, and drove on to destination in Shepherdsville KY.
WHERE DID YOU CONNECT THE FOUR FEET OF HOSE - TO THE CARB OR TO THE FUEL PUMP?
I can get it home this way, but it qwould be a colossal pain. A truck fixit place is recommended by the park operator, I'll call
them tomorrow. I'm reviewing the system to see where to look. OPen to suggestions, it seems like the break has to be on the
engine side of the selector valve. Open to suggestions for where to look a dnrepair shops in the Louisville area if this one
doesn't pan out.
--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243166 is a reply to message #243145] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 11:40 |
corleyw
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Location: Battle Ground, WA
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Don't ignore the fact that a very tiny hole in one of the fuel supply hoses will allow air to be sucked in, and it moves in a lot easier than pulling fuel up out of the tank. If the selector valve isn't the problem, then check for a bad hose, broken steel line, etc., that might allow air in.
You may have to plumb around that selector valve. If you do this, be sure to block off the unused tanks supply line so it doesn't start syphoning fuel out onto the ground when you fill the tanks.
On my old Cortez MH, I ran over a piece of steel that poped up and pierced the fuel tank one day, shortly after filling up. Let me tell you, a tank full of gas running out onto the ground under your coach is not without a bit of worrying. All went well, except for loosing 25 gallons of fuel, and having to tow it home, but it COULD have been disastrous.
Corley
'76 Glenbrook
29 other vehicles
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243168 is a reply to message #243139] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 11:51 |
Ken Burton
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Location: Hebron, Indiana
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The last time I did that for someone. I bungee corded the 5 gallon container to the front bumper and ran the hose to the input side of the mechanical pump. I told him to stop every 40 miles and refill or exchange the gas can. He got home over several hundred miles that way.
Nothing says the container needs to be inside the coach.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway [message #243240 is a reply to message #243168] |
Wed, 12 March 2014 20:43 |
jhbridges
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Registered: May 2011
Location: Braselton ga
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t hadda be because the friggin' Advance only had 4 feet of hose. If I can't rig a fix, I will migrate the gas can and buy enough hose. 4 feetain't. I was tired, unrianated off thoroughly, and simply wanted to get here and park.
So we had the BWD show, it was great. Ran to 6P, I got back to the GMC about 7. Sign on the door 'No water tonight, leave it off'. Freezing plus predicted. Too cold for the heat pump. My electric heater has it a bit over 60 and climbing. I reconnected the hose and ran about 20 gallons into the freshwater tank for dishwashing, shaving ion the morning, and Sanitary Services. My freshwater, water heateer, and plumbing are pretty much all inside. Water heater is on, I'll survive. Supposed to be back to 70s this weekend.
--johnny
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From: Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] died on the freeway
The last time I did that for someone. I bungee corded the 5 gallon container to the front bumper and ran the hose to the input side of the mechanical pump. I told him to stop every 40 miles and refill or exchange the gas can. He got home over several hundred miles that way.
Nothing says the container needs to be inside the coach.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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