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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #242988 is a reply to message #242984] |
Mon, 10 March 2014 23:06   |
Guy Lopes
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Ken,
I thought of your installation when Rob suggested it.
The generator Owner's Manual doesn't list the running rpm (at least I can't
find it), but the 420cc Predator engine specs list it at 1800 +/- 50 rpm.
Ken do you recall what your APU rpm is? Just curious.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
www.GMC-Guy.com
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:42 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] APU Prospect?
This MIGHT be a good prospect for Onan replacement for someone willing to do
something like I did. $529 with electric start will be hard to beat.:
http://www.harborfreight.com/8750-Peak7000-Running-Watts-13-HP-420cc-Gas-Gen
erator-68530.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiOTg5OTI3MjMiLCJza3UiOiI2ODUzMCIsImlzIjo
iNTI5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6Ijg1NjEifQ%3D%3D%0D%0A&utm_medium=email&u
tm_campaign=1114a&utm_source=1010#.Ux52j_ldXt0
http://goo.gl/rCKIKo
Here's my similar TroyBilt, which is still working better than my Onan or
Generac ever did:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5330-troybilt-generator-installation.html
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #242990 is a reply to message #242984] |
Mon, 10 March 2014 23:17 |
Francois
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I have the Onan 6000 in mine now, but that doesn't stop me from looking for what I might need next.
I read with interest about Ken's Troybilt conversion. It looks interesting. The downside is the noise issue. That stated, the Onan is in the generator compartment, INSIDE of a metal box. I have to think that that metal box contains a lot of the noise, and if Ken had enclosed his Troy, he would be hearing a lot less engine.
I think if I do a conversion like that, I will be putting the workings inside of a metal enclosure, inside the generator compartment. With the right kind of fan, it should be feasible.
The Harbor Freight Predator generators advertise how quiet they are, and have their single cylinder horizontal to the crankcase rather than vertical. Other than being Chinese, they look like they might work. I would probably choose the 6500 model or less.
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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #242991 is a reply to message #242990] |
Mon, 10 March 2014 23:23 |
Guy Lopes
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The 6500 version is $50 cheaper, but the outside dimensions are listed as
the same, AND it doesn't have electric start.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
www.GMC-Guy.com
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Sigmund Frankenfelter
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect?
I have the Onan 6000 in mine now, but that doesn't stop me from looking for
what I might need next.
I read with interest about Ken's Troybilt conversion. It looks
interesting. The downside is the noise issue. That stated, the Onan is in
the generator compartment, INSIDE of a metal box. I have to think that that
metal box contains a lot of the noise, and if Ken had enclosed his Troy, he
would be hearing a lot less engine.
I think if I do a conversion like that, I will be putting the workings
inside of a metal enclosure, inside the generator compartment. With the
right kind of fan, it should be feasible.
The Harbor Freight Predator generators advertise how quiet they are, and
have their single cylinder horizontal to the crankcase rather than vertical.
Other than being Chinese, they look like they might work. I would probably
choose the 6500 model or less.
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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #242995 is a reply to message #242984] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 00:17 |
Chr$
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Well, 1,800 RPM is quieter than 3,600, but that troybilt must still be loud as hell and vibrate a lot?
If the predator runs at only 1,800, then with sound blimping, it might be a contender.
Anyone want an EV4010 with 80 Hours on it? It's too big for my trailer, going to portable Honda's...
I'll be using it one more time this month, then probably selling it.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #243000 is a reply to message #242988] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 06:25 |
Ken Henderson
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Guy,
The Onan does run at 1800 rpm. My Troy-Bilt runs 3600. I didn't notice
the Predator's RPM; if it really is 1800, that would be a big plus, IMHO.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I thought of your installation when Rob suggested it.
>
> The generator Owner's Manual doesn't list the running rpm (at least I
> can't
> find it), but the 420cc Predator engine specs list it at 1800 +/- 50 rpm.
> Ken do you recall what your APU rpm is? Just curious.
>
> Guy Lopes
> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
> Sacramento, CA
>
> www.GMC-Guy.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:42 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: [GMCnet] APU Prospect?
>
> This MIGHT be a good prospect for Onan replacement for someone willing to
> do
> something like I did. $529 with electric start will be hard to beat.:
>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/8750-Peak7000-Running-Watts-13-HP-420cc-Gas-Gen
> erator-68530.html?
> ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiOTg5OTI3MjMiLCJza3UiOiI2ODUzMCIsImlzIjo
>
> iNTI5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6Ijg1NjEifQ%3D%3D%0D%0A&utm_medium=email&u
> tm_campaign=1114a&utm_source=1010#.Ux52j_ldXt0<http://www.harborfreight.com/8750-Peak7000-Running-Watts-13-HP-420cc-Gas-Gen
> erator-68530.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiOTg5OTI3MjMiLCJza3UiOiI2ODUzMCIsImlzIjo
> iNTI5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6Ijg1NjEifQ%3D%3D%0D%0A&utm_medium=email&u
> tm_campaign=1114a&utm_source=1010#.Ux52j_ldXt0>
>
> http://goo.gl/rCKIKo
>
> Here's my similar TroyBilt, which is still working better than my Onan or
> Generac ever did:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5330-troybilt-generator-installation.html
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] APU Prospect? [message #243001 is a reply to message #242995] |
Tue, 11 March 2014 06:27 |
Ken Henderson
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No, my Troybilt is probably little louder than the Onan it replaced -- or
my hearing has continued to decline. And vibration is less. We don't use
it an awful lot, usually during mid-day stops, but it's been more reliable
than the Onan, by far, and the noise is not at all objectionable.
Ken H.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Well, 1,800 RPM is quieter than 3,600, but that troybilt must still be
> loud as hell and vibrate a lot?
>
> If the predator runs at only 1,800, then with sound blimping, it might be
> a contender.
>
> Anyone want an EV4010 with 80 Hours on it? It's too big for my trailer,
> going to portable Honda's...
>
> I'll be using it one more time this month, then probably selling it.
>
>
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> Scottsdale, AZ
> 77 Ex-Kingsley Featuring: 455, Power Drive, 3:21, Rockwell, Jim B QJET,
> Qbag. Now for Sale
> 2010 Nomad 24 Ft Travel Trailer
>
> Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
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