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I was talking to someone that works at midwest wheel. He said that the Chinese have no standards that they follow in the construction of any wheels. And that's why so many of their wheels are cracking in the lug nut area. Then coming completely off. I don't think they make rims that fit our GMC's yet. I have solved my Chinese problem. I read the country of origin labels. And avoid their junk. Last summer I needed some trailer tires. I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China. Many car and truck tires, no matter the company, are also made in China. So since I love my life. I put car tires that were made here on my trailer. We as consumers can make jobs in the US, and CANADA by buying products made here in our two countries. LOVE this country.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238878 is a reply to message #238875] |
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| BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 09:28 |
I was talking to someone that works at midwest wheel. He said that the Chinese have no standards that they follow in the construction of any wheels. And that's why so many of their wheels are cracking in the lug nut area. Then coming completely off. I don't think they make rims that fit our GMC's yet. I have solved my Chinese problem. I read the country of origin labels. And avoid their junk. Last summer I needed some trailer tires. I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China. Many car and truck tires, no matter the company, are also made in China. So since I love my life. I put car tires that were made here on my trailer. We as consumers can make jobs in the US, and CANADA by buying products made here in our two countries. LOVE this country.
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Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238884 is a reply to message #238878] |
Wed, 05 February 2014 12:24 |
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 10:21 |
| BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 09:28 |
I was talking to someone that works at midwest wheel. He said that the Chinese have no standards that they follow in the construction of any wheels. And that's why so many of their wheels are cracking in the lug nut area. Then coming completely off. I don't think they make rims that fit our GMC's yet. I have solved my Chinese problem. I read the country of origin labels. And avoid their junk. Last summer I needed some trailer tires. I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China. Many car and truck tires, no matter the company, are also made in China. So since I love my life. I put car tires that were made here on my trailer. We as consumers can make jobs in the US, and CANADA by buying products made here in our two countries. LOVE this country.
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Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
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I no sooner posted that reply and then read this:
http://europe.autonews.com/article/20140205/ANE/140209920/aston-martin-recalls-75-of-cars-made-since-late-2007?cciid=email-ane-blast&r=8221D964180 1B1S
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238885 is a reply to message #238878] |
Wed, 05 February 2014 13:08 |
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 09:21 |
Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
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I totally agree. Sub standard goods can be made anywhere, just as quality goods can. The problem is lack of standards, lack of enforcement, and people wanting everything for the cheapest price possible.
I owned nothing but GM cars and trucks up through about 2000. Now I wouldn't own one. The quality and reliability of many foreign made cars is so much better. Go figure.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238886 is a reply to message #238885] |
Wed, 05 February 2014 13:26 |
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On 2/5/2014 11:08 AM, David Orders wrote:
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 09:21
>> Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
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> I totally agree. Sub standard goods can be made anywhere, just as quality goods can. The problem is lack of standards, lack of enforcement, and people wanting everything for the cheapest price possible.
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> I owned nothing but GM cars and trucks up through about 2000. Now I wouldn't own one. The quality and reliability of many foreign made cars is so much better. Go figure.
It takes so long to build a good reputation and no time at all to
destroy it.
FWIW, all of the car magazines are pretty impressed with current
American cars. Considering Road &Track and Car and Driver have been
almost anti-American for decades, that's saying something.
Still... I can't justify buying a new American car. I buy used and read
the reviews. Mercedes and BMW of the Mid-2000s have pretty dismal
ratings. We really considered a 2008 Caddy CTS but eventually settled
on an Infiniti G35.
As for Chinese goods, if you consider how hard we're squeezing the
Chinese to make stuff cheaper and cheaper, it should be expected that
they will try and cut corners to make a few more bucks. Very
capitalistic these Communists can be. Gotta keep an eye on them just
like you would many American manufacturers. (read GM, Ford and Chrysler
of the 70s, 80s and 90s.)
It would be great to bring it all back to US shores. If you shop at
Walmart or Harbor Freight (to name just two) you have no room to
complain. Sadly everyone else has to sell at or near those same
price-points or go out of business. We used to have a couple nice
little tool stores here in Eugene. Both gone since Harbor Freight
showed up. I miss them but do like those inexpensive tools for my
less-than-commercial needs.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238888 is a reply to message #238886] |
Wed, 05 February 2014 13:51 |
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One of our suppliers was going to go out - of - house for some of their production until they provided their spec to several Pacific Rim companies. None would meet their spec at a price which represented a savings. They're still rolling their own. You get what you pay for.
I've no complaint currently with the US carmakers - their quality seems as good as anyone else's. So I drive my Dodge minivan (made in Ontario) and look at my neightbor's Chev pickup (heche de mexico) and we look at the other guy's Ram (saltillo, Mexico) and eventually realize, it's a world market for all of them. I can have a toyota (Paris, KY) or a honda (Marysville, OH). I could in the past have chosen between a Pontiac Vibe and its Toyota counterpart (both built by NUMMI in Fremont).
--johnny
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires
On 2/5/2014 11:08 AM, David Orders wrote:
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> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 09:21
>> Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
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> I totally agree. Sub standard goods can be made anywhere, just as quality goods can. The problem is lack of standards, lack of enforcement, and people wanting everything for the cheapest price possible.
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> I owned nothing but GM cars and trucks up through about 2000. Now I wouldn't own one. The quality and reliability of many foreign made cars is so much better. Go figure.
It takes so long to build a good reputation and no time at all to
destroy it.
FWIW, all of the car magazines are pretty impressed with current
American cars. Considering Road &Track and Car and Driver have been
almost anti-American for decades, that's saying something.
Still... I can't justify buying a new American car. I buy used and read
the reviews. Mercedes and BMW of the Mid-2000s have pretty dismal
ratings. We really considered a 2008 Caddy CTS but eventually settled
on an Infiniti G35.
As for Chinese goods, if you consider how hard we're squeezing the
Chinese to make stuff cheaper and cheaper, it should be expected that
they will try and cut corners to make a few more bucks. Very
capitalistic these Communists can be. Gotta keep an eye on them just
like you would many American manufacturers. (read GM, Ford and Chrysler
of the 70s, 80s and 90s.)
It would be great to bring it all back to US shores. If you shop at
Walmart or Harbor Freight (to name just two) you have no room to
complain. Sadly everyone else has to sell at or near those same
price-points or go out of business. We used to have a couple nice
little tool stores here in Eugene. Both gone since Harbor Freight
showed up. I miss them but do like those inexpensive tools for my
less-than-commercial needs.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238896 is a reply to message #238884] |
Wed, 05 February 2014 15:31 |
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Bob,
You are 100% correct! As far as the counterfeit plastic part supplied to Aston Martin (AM) goes they had the spec but I doubt AM had
anyone in China watching what the suppliers were doing.
I have noted the following several times before here. Between 1991 and 1998 I was based in Hong Kong and covered the Peoples
Republic of China. I visited two aircraft manufacturing companies during that period, the Xian Aircraft Company (XAC) and the Harbin
Aircraft Company (HAC).
During that period Hamilton Standard (HS) sold aircraft air conditioning (A/C) systems for the Y-7 (XAC) and the Y-12 (HAC). As part
of those sales HS had to provide 15% offsets. That meant that HS (or another UTC subsidiary) had to buy products of a value equal to
15% of the sales price of the A/C systems for each aircraft. The same contract conditions were applied to Boeing and so they set up
a production line for the B-737 vertical stabilizer at the XAC. Boeing shipped all the tooling and raw materials from the USA and
only relied on the Chinese for labor. The stabilizers produced by the XAC met the Boeing specs 100% as they had a team of people
keeping an eye on the Chinese.
By comparison the Y-7 was horrible! You could look down the wings and see the rivets wander off line; the edge of the lap joints
wasn't straight either. The structure was fine but the aesthetics left a lot to be desired.
My office mate in Hong Kong was a metallurgist that worked for Pratt & Whitney. As part of their offset commitment they had small
turbine blades manufactured by a company in Chengdu. The metallurgist was of Chinese descent and spoke fluent Mandarin. He'd visit
the factory frequently and when he got back to Hong Kong would remark that it seemed that the Chinese would forget everything he'd
told them after he left.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob de Kruyff
Bob--I'm all for buy American, but sometimes that isn't always possible anymore. I still feel that if product specs are available
and used, Chinese products are OK. Every major manufacturer build products in China including car makers and the quality is just
fine. The problem is when there are no specs or they are not audited or enforced.
I no sooner posted that reply and then read this:
http://europe.autonews.com/article/20140205/ANE/140209920/aston-martin-recalls-75-of-cars-made-since-late-2007?cciid=email-ane-blast
&r=8221D9641801B1S
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Bob
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| [GMCnet] Re : GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238943 is a reply to message #238875] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 01:26 |
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Rob Mueller is absolutely correct. When the inspector from the America company walks out that plant door. All bets are off. I've seen it. Don't you think it's interesting that China is building toys for OUR children. And suddenly lead shows up in the paint out of nowhere. How do you think that happened. Our daughter is a Veterinarian. She's been having dogs coming in that are vary sick, and dying. What they have found, that the Chinese are doing. Is taking some kind of meat product. And using chemicals that are caustic to dogs to make the produce look, and taste like chicken. Dog food, and treats ARE NOT covered by the FDA. I will NOT give any food, or treat to our dog from China. China is rebuilding a lot of starters, alternators, and distributors. Noticed all of those items that are failing lately. It may have a lifetime warranty. And your going to have a lifetime of taking it back. Yes. There are companies in China that do good work. I'm just not going to waste my Am
erican time, and money to figure it out any more. I'm more interested in putting my fellow Americans to work. It's not the governments job to make jobs. It's ours as consumers. And I refuse to buy cars that are sold by foreign companies. Yes. Foreign parts are in American cars. But the engineering, and PROFITS stay here. I put my life on the line for this country. And I support it by what I buy. Small price to pay. I thank God for the USA, and Canada.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238962 is a reply to message #238875] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 10:03 |
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I needed snow tires a few weeks ago for my new to me 2007 Dodge Grand Caravan. 15000 original miles.
Bought Generals. Made in Germany !!! So far so good. I don't mind buying tires made in Germany. I've seen terrible results from tires from a very populous far east country.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re : GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238963 is a reply to message #238943] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 10:16 |
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| BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 23:26 |
Rob Mueller is absolutely correct. When the inspector from the America company walks out that plant door. All bets are off. I've seen it. Don't you think it's interesting that China is building toys for OUR children. And suddenly lead shows up in the paint out of nowhere. How do you think that happened. Our daughter is a Veterinarian. She's been having dogs coming in that are vary sick, and dying. What they have found, that the Chinese are doing. Is taking some kind of meat product. And using chemicals that are caustic to dogs to make the produce look, and taste like chicken. Dog food, and treats ARE NOT covered by the FDA. I will NOT give any food, or treat to our dog from China. China is rebuilding a lot of starters, alternators, and distributors. Noticed all of those items that are failing lately. It may have a lifetime warranty. And your going to have a lifetime of taking it back. Yes. There are companies in China that do good work. I'm just not going to waste my Am
erican time, and money to figure it out any more. I'm more interested in putting my fellow Americans to work. It's not the governments job to make jobs. It's ours as consumers. And I refuse to buy cars that are sold by foreign companies. Yes. Foreign parts are in American cars. But the engineering, and PROFITS stay here. I put my life on the line for this country. And I support it by what I buy. Small price to pay. I thank God for the USA, and Canada.
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Bob, until you can convince the hordes flocking to Wal Mart every day, you're going to be fighting a lonely battle.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re : GMC Wheels, And tires [message #238966 is a reply to message #238963] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 10:30 |
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>>I'm just not going to waste my American time, and money to figure it
out any more. I'm more interested in putting my fellow Americans to
work. It's not the governments job to make jobs. It's ours as consumers.
And I refuse to buy cars that are sold by foreign companies. Yes.
Foreign parts are in American cars. But the engineering, and PROFITS
stay here. I put my life on the line for this country. And I support it
by what I buy. Small price to pay. I thank God for the USA, and Canada.
Bob Dunahugh USMCGMCMI Member<<
> Bob, until you can convince the hordes flocking to Wal Mart every day, you're going to be fighting a lonely battle.
I don't shop Walmart (well... 'cept for Mobil 1 - and I feel guilty
about it) but I can't help myself when it come to Harbor Freight.
FWIW, I sent an email to a Chinese plastic molder this morning. Getting
tooling and part quotes for a new product. I'd love to be sending that
post to Michigan or Kansas... but we wouldn't be in business for long
unless our competitors promised to do the same.
And since the company I work for is Italian-owned, they don't really
care that we keep our part production here in the US, so there's that,
too. It's a Global market and that's the new normal. There's really
nothing you can do about it except complain. It will all even out in
20-30 years. The Chinese will get tired of making 85¢/hr at some point.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239019 is a reply to message #238875] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 17:20 |
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| BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 05 February 2014 11:28 |
I was talking to someone that works at midwest wheel. He said that the Chinese have no standards that they follow in the construction of any wheels. And that's why so many of their wheels are cracking in the lug nut area. Then coming completely off. I don't think they make rims that fit our GMC's yet. I have solved my Chinese problem. I read the country of origin labels. And avoid their junk. Last summer I needed some trailer tires. I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China. Many car and truck tires, no matter the company, are also made in China. So since I love my life. I put car tires that were made here on my trailer. We as consumers can make jobs in the US, and CANADA by buying products made here in our two countries. LOVE this country.
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Bob,
What kind of trailer? (I'm guessing a small trailer)
Putting cars tires on a car hauler or heavy trailer is not a good thing to do! The side walls on car tires give too much and the load rate it too low.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239022 is a reply to message #239006] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 18:19 |
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| Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 06 February 2014 16:49 |
| mikethebike wrote on Thu, 06 February 2014 16:30 |
I bought Eagle Forged Alloy wheels that are made in SC. Must be 25 lb lighter than the steel oem wheels!! Bought them on E'Bay from a dealer in Ohio and saved at least $500 when compared to what GMC vendors are asking for the same wheel. He gets cosmetic blems every now and then and will go through and find ones with blems on the back side. He ships them with all hardware and center caps.
I try to not buy anything from China. Back when I was in a SEABEE reserve unit and the military discovered defective chemical suits (activated charcoal lined) all the ones we found we made in CHINA.
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I can't be the same wheel that you would buy from JimK or someone is in real trouble. JimK OWNS the tooling for the 4.562 pilot bore. You can buy the 4.625 and center it on the studs. But that is a PITA and that is what you get.
Matt
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When I said he ships them with ALL the hardware, he ships them with the hub centered adapters for whatever application you are running. What does Jim do..buy blanks from EAGLE and bore them? If he is manufacturing EAGLE branded forged rims without license I'd say he is the one in trouble. You said he owns the tooling for the 4.562 pilot bore. Does he own the PATENT for all tooling that will bore the rim to 4.562? It would be difficult to patent the bore itself, so how would EAGLE be in trouble for selling their wheel bored to 4.562? Maybe they have some contractual thing going, but allow me to quote some $$$$$$$$ figures to you then tell me how much PITA it will be:
I payed $900.00, delivered, lug nuts, valves, center caps and hub adapters. What do the other guys want......$1500 or $1600 for rims and hardware? PLUS delivery of something like $25 a rim for another $150.00. If they want $1750.00 for everything the money I saved bought 5 new tires. I'm a world class cheap skate...I'll take those savings.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239024 is a reply to message #239022] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 18:27 |
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Well, I'll teach you cheeeep some time :) Which has to include the whole thing, not just the acquisition cost. Having used centering adaptors elsewhere, ain't no way I'd ever do so again.... in that direction lies more hassle than I'm ready to accept again.
The Ornamental Gent has my permission to tell you what he sold me a set of wheels that fit flawlessly with caps and lugs if he wants to. Less than you have noted, but over 900. Worth it in my estimation.
n.b. there's no magic in a 4.562" hole. The tooling to produce it at the proper diameter and properly centered on the wheel ain't inexpensive though.
--johnny
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires
Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 06 February 2014 16:49
> mikethebike wrote on Thu, 06 February 2014 16:30
> > I bought Eagle Forged Alloy wheels that are made in SC. Must be 25 lb lighter than the steel oem wheels!! Bought them on E'Bay from a dealer in Ohio and saved at least $500 when compared to what GMC vendors are asking for the same wheel. He gets cosmetic blems every now and then and will go through and find ones with blems on the back side. He ships them with all hardware and center caps.
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> > I try to not buy anything from China. Back when I was in a SEABEE reserve unit and the military discovered defective chemical suits (activated charcoal lined) all the ones we found we made in CHINA.
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> I can't be the same wheel that you would buy from JimK or someone is in real trouble. JimK OWNS the tooling for the 4.562 pilot bore. You can buy the 4.625 and center it on the studs. But that is a PITA and that is what you get.
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> Matt
When I said he ships them with ALL the hardware, he ships them with the hub centered adapters for whatever application you are running. What does Jim do..buy blanks from EAGLE and bore them? If he is manufacturing EAGLE branded forged rims without license I'd say he is the one in trouble. You said he owns the tooling for the 4.562 pilot bore. Does he own the PATENT for all tooling that will bore the rim to 4.562? It would be difficult to patent the bore itself, so how would EAGLE be in trouble for selling their wheel bored to 4.562? Maybe they have some contractual thing going, but allow me to quote some $$$$$$$$ figures to you then tell me how much PITA it will be:
I payed $900.00, delivered, lug nuts, valves, center caps and hub adapters. What do the other guys want......$1500 or $1600 for rims and hardware? PLUS delivery of something like $25 a rim for another $150.00. If they want $1750.00 for everything the money I saved bought 5 new tires. I'm a world class cheap skate...I'll take those savings.
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239025 is a reply to message #238875] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 18:31 |
Steve
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Registered: September 2013
Location: East Greenville, Pa
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I just bought new 16 inch tires. Did my research. Firestone Transforce HT. Was told and confirmed Made in USA. Tires came in and were made in Canada. I prefer US but Canada a close second. They were very fresh so I can't complain about that. Firestone should back them up and in a pinch you could still go to Wally World in emergency. I supported one of our GMC service centers, Ken Frey. Complete with road force balance and balancing beads of some type. I have always been happy with Ken's work and happy to support him. It does help that he is about 5 miles away.
1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239034 is a reply to message #239019] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 20:13 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Registered: January 2004
Location: Chandler, AZ
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""I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China."'
Not so Bob. We buy tens of thousands of trailer tires every few months that are domestically produced--although I have to say the trend to off shore production is definitely there. We also purchase from Carlisle--those are also produced domestically. You can imagine that with 100,000 trailers, with about half of those using 4 tires, we scour the industry for service parts.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Wheels, And tires [message #239037 is a reply to message #239034] |
Thu, 06 February 2014 20:27 |
GMC_LES
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Registered: October 2009
Location: Montreal
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Not all Carlisle brand tires are made in the USA. Only their USA Trail tires are made on this side of the pond. Their tires just marked Carlisle are made in China.
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza 26ft
A work in Progress
On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:
""I found out at my Goodyear store that all trailer tires, no matter the company, that are sold in the USA come from China."'
Not so Bob. We buy tens of thousands of trailer tires every few months that are domestically produced--although I have to say the trend to off shore production is definitely there. We also purchase from Carlisle--those are also produced domestically. You can imagine that with 100,000 trailers, with about half of those using 4 tires, we scour the industry for service parts.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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