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Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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- I have been looking to do this for years
- no more guessing,
- instructions alone are worth it
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I have been asking for a kit for years
- now here it is
- keep our ONAN'S alive
- *I no longer have to wait -- I buy 2ea for my GMC's*


and as Bovee says-
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*Special thanks to Ken Henderson, Ken Burton, Jim Miller, Rob Mueller, Mike
Miller and others who have posted pics on the net showing how they
installed their versions of an electronic ignition installation on an Onan
generator. -------------------------*


*Our VENDOR'S KEEP US ALIVE*

*gene*


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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEP US ALIVE [message #236899 is a reply to message #236881] Tue, 21 January 2014 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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One minor additional thing that I did but is not totally necessary. When running the wires I included an additional 3rd wire. One wire end was connected to the module mounting screw with star washers (ground) and the other end connected to the engine block (also ground). I believe I used the coil mounting bolt.

I did this after helping someone else with an intermittent ignition on an Onan. Even though we thought we had a good ground connection at the sheet metal mounting point we still had problems. A good wire back to the engine block took care of the problem.

I could not tell from the pictures of the kit about the mounting bolts, but I had one that vibrated loose over time using lock washers. So I suggest that you keep the lock washer but use the tooth/ star type for good grounding and use a locking nut with the nylon locking feature.

The one that vibrated loose was mine and it kept running until the module hit the flywheel. I had to buy a new module and this time I used the the nylon insert locking nuts.

That was a very good write up with pictures.

Ken B.


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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEPUS ALIVE [message #236922 is a reply to message #236899] Tue, 21 January 2014 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Then there's the dumb ass that decided that putting the Pertronics pickup closer to the flywheel would be better, he was correct,
better at getting it smacked by the flywheel!

Regards,
Rob "THE dumbass" M.
Sydney, Australia


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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton

One minor additional thing that I did but is not totally necessary. When running the wires I included an additional 3rd wire. One
wire end was connected to the module mounting screw with star washers (ground) and the other end connected to the engine block (also
ground). I believe I used the coil mounting bolt.

I did this after helping someone else with an intermittent ignition on an Onan. Even though we thought we had a good ground
connection at the sheet metal mounting point we still had problems. A good wire back to the engine block took care of the problem.


I could not tell from the pictures of the kit about the mounting bolts, but I had one that vibrated loose over time using lock
washers. So I suggest that you keep the lock washer but use the tooth/ star type for good grounding and use a locking nut with the
nylon locking feature.

The one that vibrated loose was mine and it kept running until the module hit the flywheel. I had to buy a new module and this
time I used the the nylon insert locking nuts.

That was a very good write up with pictures.

Ken

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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEPUS ALIVE [message #236928 is a reply to message #236922] Tue, 21 January 2014 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Tue, 21 January 2014 14:26

Ken,

Then there's the dumb ass that decided that putting the Pertronics pickup closer to the flywheel would be better, he was correct,
better at getting it smacked by the flywheel!

Regards,
Rob "THE dumbass" M.
Sydney, Australia



When I replaced the module and used nylon lock nuts, I experimented with the gap to see what effect it would have on timing. I do not remember the maximum gap it would run at any more any more but it was much higher than I expected.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORSKEEPUS ALIVE [message #236929 is a reply to message #236928] Tue, 21 January 2014 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

IIRC the spec is 0.060 I set it at a TIGHT 0.060 and it got smacked. The replacement was set at a more than 0.060 and it worked fine
until I removed the flywheel and shroud behind it to find a leak. When I put everything back together I didn't check the clearance
and I smacked it AGAIN! Obviously I didn't get the shroud back in the same spot.

Peter Bailey has an Onan down in Melbourne and has promised to bring it up to Sydney. I have an idea for a bracket to mount the
Pertronics pickup using a bolt on the block that will be adjustable. I need the Onan to design it.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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From: Ken Burton

When I replaced the module and used nylon lock nuts, I experimented with the gap to see what effect it would have on timing. I do
not remember the maximum gap it would run at any more any more but it was much higher than I expected.
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORSKEEPUS ALIVE [message #236932 is a reply to message #236929] Tue, 21 January 2014 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That number, .060, rings a bell and as I remember I got it over .120 with it still running.

Melborne to Sydney hauling a 450pound Onan is quite a haul. As I remember that was around 450 statute miles the way a crow flys.

They do have crows in Australia don't they?
Do the fly on right or the left?


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OURVENDORSKEEPUS ALIVE [message #236938 is a reply to message #236932] Tue, 21 January 2014 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Peter has to come to Sydney to pickup a hardtop for his E type Jag that I have here and a spare engine that the PO has at his barn
south of Sydney.

Of course we have crows here - they fly upside down! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton

That number, .060, rings a bell and as I remember I got it over .120 with it still running.

Melborne to Sydney hauling a 450pound Onan is quite a haul. As I remember that was around 450 statute miles the way a crow flys.

They do have crows in Australia don't they?
Do the fly on right or the left?
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEP US ALIVE [message #236944 is a reply to message #236881] Tue, 21 January 2014 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was looking at the install photos and the directions say set at .020 inch clearance then I read about to close of settings and the pickup gets damaged. So from the ones who have made their own brackets and such what is the minimum to clear flywheel and max to run. I love to get one of these kits but sure don't want to waste a pickup first thing. Thanks
Skip Hartline




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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEP US ALIVE [message #236945 is a reply to message #236944] Tue, 21 January 2014 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skip,

Minimum suggested factory specification setting is .010, maximum .060. Follow the detailed written instructions that comes in the Kit and you should not have a problem.

Gary Bovee
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> I was looking at the install photos and the directions say set at .020 inch clearance then I read about to close of settings and the pickup gets damaged. So from the ones who have made their own brackets and such what is the minimum to clear flywheel and max to run. I love to get one of these kits but sure don't want to waste a pickup first thing. Thanks
> Skip Hartline
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Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: ONAN - ELECTRONIC IGNITION KIT - OUR VENDORS KEEP US ALIVE [message #236949 is a reply to message #236881] Tue, 21 January 2014 20:01 Go to previous message
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Just ordered one from Bdub

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