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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #236910 is a reply to message #236875] |
Tue, 21 January 2014 12:42   |
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I was able to locate grade 5 torx head bolts in the same thread pitch with a large countersunk style head from Tacoma screw. There is an sae washer which will give you the same size flange as the original bolt when placed onto the shaft of the countersunk screw/bolt and the resulting head height only slightly more proud of the surface than the original. For areas I might kneel like the treads of the cockpit steps a wood spade drill will allow the washer/bolt combination to end up flush. The other areas are so close that they won't be seen through carpet and pad. I was not able to find an exact replacement.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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> What would you call this bolt ? and where to get it ?
> It is used on the floor and steps up to the front of the GMC.
> 1" head, 5/16" dia and has a total lenght of 1 3/4"
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> http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Espen_Heitmann/media/1973%20Sequoia/IMGP0035_zpsfd0de164.jpg.html
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> 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
> "Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey you can also call me Espen ;)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #236986 is a reply to message #236910] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 09:49 |
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Fastenal has real elevator bolts fort the step.
<http://www.fastenal.com/web/products;jsessionid=TCmCSfyKgkT8sx7t9zPlQFty0L2hDgYbJZK2FGkxk30lzn32gQl9!-1136939788!-1918571924?term=elevator+bolt&searchMode=>
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1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 10:42 -0800, Todd Sullivan wrote:
> I was able to locate grade 5 torx head bolts in the same thread pitch with a large countersunk style head from Tacoma screw. There is an sae washer which will give you the same size flange as the original bolt when placed onto the shaft of the countersunk screw/bolt and the resulting head height only slightly more proud of the surface than the original. For areas I might kneel like the treads of the cockpit steps a wood spade drill will allow the washer/bolt combination to end up flush. The other areas are so close that they won't be seen through carpet and pad. I was not able to find an exact replacement.
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> Todd Sullivan
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> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
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> > On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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> > What would you call this bolt ? and where to get it ?
> > It is used on the floor and steps up to the front of the GMC.
> > 1" head, 5/16" dia and has a total lenght of 1 3/4"
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> > http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Espen_Heitmann/media/1973%20Sequoia/IMGP0035_zpsfd0de164.jpg.html
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> > 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
> > "Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey you can also call me Espen ;)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237007 is a reply to message #236986] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 12:10 |
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I looked at those but they do not have a means to hold while tightening ( or eventual removal) and are only available in grade 2-3.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:49 AM, J Mills <mills@bmi.net> wrote:
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> Fastenal has real elevator bolts fort the step.
> <http://www.fastenal.com/web/products;jsessionid=TCmCSfyKgkT8sx7t9zPlQFty0L2hDgYbJZK2FGkxk30lzn32gQl9!-1136939788!-1918571924?term=elevator+bolt&searchMode=>
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> Jim Mills KD0NPU
> Greeley, CO
> 1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
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>> On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 10:42 -0800, Todd Sullivan wrote:
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>> I was able to locate grade 5 torx head bolts in the same thread pitch with a large countersunk style head from Tacoma screw. There is an sae washer which will give you the same size flange as the original bolt when placed onto the shaft of the countersunk screw/bolt and the resulting head height only slightly more proud of the surface than the original. For areas I might kneel like the treads of the cockpit steps a wood spade drill will allow the washer/bolt combination to end up flush. The other areas are so close that they won't be seen through carpet and pad. I was not able to find an exact replacement.
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>> Todd Sullivan
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>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>> Seattle
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>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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>>> What would you call this bolt ? and where to get it ?
>>> It is used on the floor and steps up to the front of the GMC.
>>> 1" head, 5/16" dia and has a total lenght of 1 3/4"
>>>
>>> http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Espen_Heitmann/media/1973%20Sequoia/IMGP0035_zpsfd0de164.jpg.html
>>> --
>>> 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
>>> "Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey you can also call me Espen ;)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237078 is a reply to message #237007] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 19:45 |
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| sgltrac wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 12:10 |
I looked at those but they do not have a means to hold while tightening ( or eventual removal) and are only available in grade 2-3.
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Fastenal's part number 22815, which is a 5/16-18 bolt, 1 3/4 inch long which is just what is being requested, has a square shank under the head to reduce turning when tightening or loosening.
Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237081 is a reply to message #237078] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 20:20 |
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I held one of those in my hand. I'm not saying it will not work. I'm saying that the head is in so way as strong as the orig. and if the hole in the wood is just too big then the elevator bolt will spin upon tightening and will likely spin upon later removal if the nut gets corroded to the bolt.
Y'all can run what you like.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Jim Melberg <pb75ft26@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> sgltrac wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 12:10
>> I looked at those but they do not have a means to hold while tightening ( or eventual removal) and are only available in grade 2-3.
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> Fastenal's part number 22815, which is a 5/16-18 bolt, 1 3/4 inch long which is just what is being requested, has a square shank under the head to reduce turning when tightening or loosening.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237082 is a reply to message #237078] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 20:28 |
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| Little Yimmy wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 20:45 |
| sgltrac wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 12:10 |
I looked at those but they do not have a means to hold while tightening ( or eventual removal) and are only available in grade 2-3.
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Fastenal's part number 22815, which is a 5/16-18 bolt, 1 3/4 inch long which is just what is being requested, has a square shank under the head to reduce turning when tightening or loosening.
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I'm very much interested in this thread and finding screws like this myslef but with a 1/4" shank.
FYI - #22815 is used when one can tighten the nut from below and the bolt it self remains fixed or can not rotate.
However, the one Loffen is looking for, and the ones I need too, tighten from above by means of a screw driver and the nut is fixed in place and does not rotate.
One type of bolt can not be used in place of the other.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237097 is a reply to message #237082] |
Wed, 22 January 2014 22:03 |
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The original do not have a captive nut as you suggest. It is a bolt with a countersunk( flat) style head which passes through the wood then the alum floor members then a lock washer and then a nut with a Phillips head in the head of the bolt ( screw)
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Little Yimmy wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 20:45
>> sgltrac wrote on Wed, 22 January 2014 12:10
>>> I looked at those but they do not have a means to hold while tightening ( or eventual removal) and are only available in grade 2-3.
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>> Fastenal's part number 22815, which is a 5/16-18 bolt, 1 3/4 inch long which is just what is being requested, has a square shank under the head to reduce turning when tightening or loosening.
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> I'm very much interested in this thread and finding screws like this myslef but with a 1/4" shank.
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> FYI - #22815 is used when one can tighten the nut from below and the bolt it self remains fixed or can not rotate.
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> However, the one Loffen is looking for, and the ones I need too, tighten from above by means of a screw driver and the nut is fixed in place and does not rotate.
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> One type of bolt can not be used in place of the other.
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> Tony (Ontario Canada) Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm. Someday I hope to build the garage of my dreams. We have 4 Ultravans & 2 Corvairs. Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237140 is a reply to message #237136] |
Thu, 23 January 2014 09:43 |
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If you are interested I will find the part number for the screw and sae washer I used. If I have time today I will dig through my photo and post a couple photos
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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> Yes as Tony says, what I would like to have is a bolt with a phillips torx or hex in the head.
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> I can of course use a regular elevator bolt but it would have been nice to have a bolt with a possibility to keep it from rotating.
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> I'm very much interested in this thread and finding screws like this myslef but with a 1/4" shank.
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> FYI - #22815 is used when one can tighten the nut from below and the bolt it self remains fixed or can not rotate.
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> However, the one Loffen is looking for, and the ones I need too, tighten from above by means of a screw driver and the nut is fixed in place and does not rotate.
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> One type of bolt can not be used in place of the other.
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> [/quote]
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> --
> 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
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| Re: [GMCnet] Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237151 is a reply to message #237144] |
Thu, 23 January 2014 10:45 |
sgltrac
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What I used is not the "correct bolt" as it is not identical to the oem but it Is at least as strong with the correct head surface area and they can be sourced longer to use in areas where hanging a wire loom off the engine side of the bolt is convenient rather than drilling new holes. I will either post a link here to the photo site or email u directly once I have located the photo and numbers
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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> Great if you could do that Todd, no hurry on this side but it would be nice to have the correct bolt
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| Re: Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237256 is a reply to message #236875] |
Fri, 24 January 2014 08:10 |
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I believe (not confirmed) that the correct bolts can be purchased from Luke @ U.S. Coach Repair, Inc. 127 Berlin Cross Keys Road. Berlin, NJ 08009. (856) 767-4848. fax (856) 768-7832. I had a GMC 4107 a few years ago and bought these from him when I was doing some floor repairs (they look like the same bolt in this thread). The 4107 buses were aluminum and had a 1" plywood floor bolted to aluminum extrusions using these large head bolts. Luke specializes in GMC buses.
Rob
74 GMC Painted Desert?
(under construction)
Grand Junction, CO
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| Re: Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237345 is a reply to message #236875] |
Fri, 24 January 2014 19:39 |
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I can try to call them tomorrow and/or Monday.
However, I do think a picture would make sure you got what you wanted and they do have email.
Just let me know if you like me to call. PM me so I do not miss your message.
Tony
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237412 is a reply to message #236875] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 08:36 |
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That is the correct place. Luke was the guy who answered the phones the last time that I had contact with them and was so knowledgeable about the GMCs it was amazing (I thought that he owned the place). Thinking back it was over 10 years ago that I sold that bus. I might have one or two bolts left over that I did not toss. I will look in my storage shed today; if I find them I will try to post details/photos.
Rob
74 GMC Painted Desert?
(under construction)
Grand Junction, CO
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| Re: Not an elevator bolt but close [message #237605 is a reply to message #236875] |
Mon, 27 January 2014 09:15 |
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Espen,
I called Luck and I sent him an email too. I am waiting to hear back from him. How many do you want?
Tony
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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