non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236781] |
Mon, 20 January 2014 17:31  |
rcjordan
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I happened to have read this article over the weekend but sorta dismissed it.
Nissan Sells 100,000 LEAFs, Captures 48% Of Worldwide Market To Date
http://insideevs.com/nissan-sells-100000-leafs-captures-48-of-worldwide-market-to-date/
Meh, 100k, 200k total, big deal.
Just now read:
'Charge rage': Too many electric cars, not enough workplace chargers
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24947237/too-many-electric-cars-not-enough-workplace-chargers
EVs have a pulse.
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Re: non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236784 is a reply to message #236781] |
Mon, 20 January 2014 17:43   |
rcjordan
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I believe North Carolina just added a $100 annual road use fee for EVs. That'll get the gov's toe in the door for now.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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Re: non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236788 is a reply to message #236781] |
Mon, 20 January 2014 17:53   |
rcjordan
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I bought the wife a Honda Fit based almost entirely on the recommendation of gmcnet. She got into hyper-miling with that thing and routinely averages 38mpg and often 40 (this is calculated by the pump receipts, not the dash mpg readout). At the price of the Fit, neither EVs or hybrids can compete on total cost of ownership. In fact, one of the Honda salesmen told me some smart Honda Hybrid owners are trading down to the Fit.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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Re: non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236789 is a reply to message #236786] |
Mon, 20 January 2014 17:53   |
kerry pinkerton
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Harry wrote on Mon, 20 January 2014 17:47 | A freind has a Prius and loves it.
$85 for gas Southern California to Vancouver Island.
Back in Ontario, CANADA, there's noise about being taxed per kilometre, seeing as how they are not using as much gas now.
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It amazes me that folks don't seem to consider the cost of battery replacement and disposal when they talk about how efficient EVs are.
Only talking about the cost of GASOLINE on a hybrid vehicle is like saying your total food bill is only based on the cost of water you drink.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236806 is a reply to message #236789] |
Mon, 20 January 2014 18:58   |
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Matt Colie
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Mon, 20 January 2014 18:53 |
Harry wrote on Mon, 20 January 2014 17:47 | A freind has a Prius and loves it.
$85 for gas Southern California to Vancouver Island.
Back in Ontario, CANADA, there's noise about being taxed per kilometre, seeing as how they are not using as much gas now.
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It amazes me that folks don't seem to consider the cost of battery replacement and disposal when they talk about how efficient EVs are.
Only talking about the cost of GASOLINE on a hybrid vehicle is like saying your total food bill is only based on the cost of water you drink.
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That is all part of the Law of Unintended Consequences. (That legislators religiously refuse to anticipate or examine.)
An acquaintance with a Prius (I think) told me he was not concerned about the battery because it is warranted against failure for 10 years. (It is not actually warranted against diminished capacity as they are programed to only run between 80% and 40% of the actual new bank capacity.) That's nice for him, but I don't own a vehicle that is less than 10 years old.
I did own a '79 Rabbit Diesel that did between 56 and 58 MPG on the highway, but only 46 in town. It was better than the '60 MB 190Db that would do 40+ on the highway and 32 in town but that was a much larger and very comfortable car. I sold it with 330K on it.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236864 is a reply to message #236788] |
Tue, 21 January 2014 07:42   |
jhbridges
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My three Diesel VWs cost me $1200, 600, and 0 to acquire. If the turbos fell below 35 or the NA one fell below 45, I went looking for the problem. Second owner wins :):)
--johnny
From: RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it
I bought the wife a Honda Fit based almost entirely on the recommendation of gmcnet. She got into hyper-miling with that thing and routinely averages 38mpg and often 40 (this is calculated by the pump receipts, not the dash mpg readout). At the price of the Fit, neither EVs or hybrids can compete on total cost of ownership. In fact, one of the Honda salesmen told me some smart Honda Hybrid owners are trading down to the Fit.
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Re: [GMCnet] non-GMC: Well, maybe EVs are going to make it [message #236909 is a reply to message #236864] |
Tue, 21 January 2014 12:30   |
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My son often enjoys driving my GMC coach; that said, he likes his VOLT even more. It is comfortable and he can drive forever as the generator recharges the battery during driving. It sips fuel in the generator to about 40mpg. With a nice rebate in CA, the cost of ownership is OK.
geo groth '73 260 Sequoia
Carson City Nevada 89703
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