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[GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #73534] Thu, 11 February 2010 07:08 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G’day,

I got a call from Simeon of Aerogel Australia today. He advised the
following:
 
1) Aerogel comes in varying thicknesses – 10mm / 5mm / 2mm (used for roll up
shades)
2) Aerogel 10mm comes in a roll that is 1440mm wide
3) Aerogel 10mm can be supplied in lengths as required
4) The price of Aerogel 10mm is $45.50 + 10% GST ($50.05) per square meter
5) There are supplies in Melbourne and Adelaide
 
Rough calculations:

GMC = 26’ L X 8’ W = 208 sq. ft. = 19.33 sq m X $50.05 = $967.46 AUD / $0.87
= $841.70 USD

I originally contacted Aerogel in the USA and they passed me to Aerogel
Australia, how about someone in the USA contacting them to see what it would
cost over there.

http://www.aerogel.com

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #73538 is a reply to message #73534] Thu, 11 February 2010 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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Rob,
I'm okay with the square feet to metres stuff, but how many stones is it?


Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #73539 is a reply to message #73538] Thu, 11 February 2010 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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At least one hectare, right Rob.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Craig Lechowicz
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Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #73878 is a reply to message #73534] Mon, 15 February 2010 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Firefly is currently offline  Firefly   United States
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Rob:

I'll be your daisy & call the US branch of Aerogel - it should solve my engine compartment & floor insulation requirements, too. I had not tracked its availability and hope it turns out to be reasonable.

Thanks for bringing it up here. Very Happy


Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #73926 is a reply to message #73534] Mon, 15 February 2010 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll be interested in a source too. I just pulled down the headliner that was above the stove/fridge/bath/closet modules, (about a two hour job, easier than I expected). There had been some sagging and apparent water damage in that section. The good news of what I found was no evidence of leaks through the roof, the bad news was two large mouse nests with their associated "leakages". That answers the musty smell question. So now I'm interested in reinsulating. What I think I understood from a previous thread was I need to scrape out all the original insulation (finally, an excuse to buy one of those cool multi-function tools!), then add new insulation. Looking at all options, Aerogel, Microfoil, Reflectix, and foil-backed urethane foam. Always interested in comments/opinions on what's best.

J
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR


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Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [update] [message #74056 is a reply to message #73534] Tue, 16 February 2010 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Firefly is currently offline  Firefly   United States
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UPDATE: 25 FEB 2010:

I have posted three PDF files on the photo site the provide the product specifications and pricing for regular AeroGel sheet and pipe wrap insulation. The link is:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5406

WARNING: It ain't cheap!


Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #234654 is a reply to message #73926] Tue, 31 December 2013 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RuidosoKid is currently offline  RuidosoKid   United States
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Hey J,

This is a very interesting concept. I googled and found the local US contact in Wis.. The price is around $1000 +/- a few bucks and that would cover entire floor and then some so probably about $1500.00 to put it everywhere and maybe have some left over for the water pipes and other items to prevent freezing..

My question was regarding your comment that you were checking into some other options as well, did you come up with any results.. I know this post is old from (2008)..

- A.J.
Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #234710 is a reply to message #73534] Wed, 01 January 2014 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is really interesting. Not that it could be used by itself, but in ADDITION to normal, standard materials, it could possibly make enough of a difference to only have one roof AC. Too thin to use by itself for not enough r value in the 10mm product. Just thinking out loud. Gets confusing, r value and thermal barrier balance.

Jack Ramsey Tulare, CA TZE165V101526 1975 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #234746 is a reply to message #73926] Wed, 01 January 2014 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jay,
I don't' know what's "best" but here' a link to my post to a thread last March on this same topic.

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=200404&rid=267#page_top

I think this product yields the highest R rating per dollar.~R-10 @ 1 1/2 inch thickness.

Readily available at most Lowes/ Home Depots. $25 for a 4x8 sheet.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Aerogel Insulation [message #234754 is a reply to message #234710] Wed, 01 January 2014 19:00 Go to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jack,

For the hell of it I worked out a guesstimate of what it would cost to insulate the ceiling in a GMC with 10mm Spaceloft.

http://www.buyaerogel.com/product/spaceloft-10-mm-cut-to-size/

I found a sketch that Bruce Tara did of the headliner and it works out at 208 inches in length and 74 inches wide. That does not include the area above the cockpit. Add 50 inches to the length for that which makes a total of 258.

Since this product comes in 58 inch wide sections to determine how many panels 58" wide by 74" long you'd need you divide 258 by 58 and you come up with 4.45. That would have to be rounded up to 5.

Therefore you need 5 pieces 74" long for a total of 370 inches or 30.8 feet. You'd have to round that up to 31.

If you plug that number in the calculator in the link above you come up with:

Don’t want the hassle of bulk insulation? Try our convenient Pre-Cut Spaceloft® Blankets.

Use the form below to order custom cuts. Standard roll width is 58″ (147 cm). Quantity discounts follow the pricing table found in the Description section below.

Length (ft) 31
Width (in) 58
Total Area (sq. ft.) 149.833
Product Price $629.30

$4.20 per sq. ft.

That is the discounted price.

Did get all that right?

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Jack Ramsey

This is really interesting. Not that it could be used by itself, but in ADDITION to normal, standard materials, it could possibly make enough of a difference to only have one roof AC. Too thin to use by itself for not enough r value in the 10mm product. Just thinking out loud. Gets confusing, r value and thermal barrier balance.
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