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Wed, 01 January 2014 16:25  |
Ken Henderson
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Just curiosity: Have any of you been such a rigamarole as this in your
state?:
http://www.rdauto.com/inspectioninfo.htm
They seem to be determined to prevent DIY auto repairs.
We went through this a few years back when my stepfather had a relatively
minor accident in his '93 Jeep Cherokee but the insurance declared it a
total loss. Luckily, it was equipped for towing so we were able to take it
to the inspection station 100 miles away (open one day per month) behind
the GMC instead of hiring a tow truck. It passed with flying colors Every
now and then one of our west coast GMCNeters reports that it's still
running fine. :-)
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234737 is a reply to message #234734] |
Wed, 01 January 2014 17:09  |
Ken Burton
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It is fairly easy to get a rebuilt title in this state. Call the state police and they will come to you. Pictures of the damage and receipts for items used in the repair plus the salvage title is about all you need.
I can not remember the fee, but it is not much.
What got me on that Georgia site is they want to also inspect vehicles that already have rebuilt titles (and inspections) issued by other states.
I ran into a strange situation with a vehicle from the People's Republic Kalifornia. It had a "not rebuildable" title with only minor damage and could not be issued a rebuilt title there. The guy was stuck and could do nothing other than scrap it or export it. I found that Indiana would allow a "rebuilt" title to be issued after an Indiana inspection and would allow it to be driven here on a temporary transport plate if I would certify that it was roadworthy. I almost flew out to the Peoples Republic and drove it back. In the end the deal fell through. He sold it to someone from either Nevada or Arizona who did the same thing I was going to do. The real question on that one was if someone got a "rebuilt" title issued from out of state, could it then be sold to someone from the People's Republic of Kalifornia, imported back into the state, and titled there again.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234752 is a reply to message #234734] |
Wed, 01 January 2014 18:42 |
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Yep, Ken, the Jeep Cherokee is still running fine. It's my daily driver when its not being towed behind my GMC. Those Cherokees are indestructible!
But, if you want to test Ken B.'s scheme for re-titling, I'll sell it back to you for a mere $500 more than I paid in 2008. I'll even deliver it. I'd like to visit Georgia and South Carolina again. But not during hurricane season; we missed Savanna and Charleston the last time because of the costal weather.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234757 is a reply to message #234752] |
Wed, 01 January 2014 19:16 |
Ken Henderson
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Gene,
I wouldn't want to leave you without a good toad. You'll need it to
navigate the old towns of Savannah & Charleston. But sure hope you'll take
time to stop by and visit with us on the way. :-)
Ken H.
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 7:42 PM, gene barrow wrote:
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> Yep, Ken, the Jeep Cherokee is still running fine. It's my daily driver
> when its not being towed behind my GMC. Those Cherokees are indestructible!
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> But, if you want to test Ken B.'s scheme for re-titling, I'll sell it back
> to you for a mere $500 more than I paid in 2008. I'll even deliver it. I'd
> like to visit Georgia and South Carolina again. But not during hurricane
> season; we missed Savanna and Charleston the last time because of the
> costal weather.
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234879 is a reply to message #234734] |
Thu, 02 January 2014 21:55 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 01 January 2014 15:25 |
Just curiosity: Have any of you been such a rigamarole as this in your
state?:
http://www.rdauto.com/inspectioninfo.htm
They seem to be determined to prevent DIY auto repairs.
We went through this a few years back when my stepfather had a relatively
minor accident in his '93 Jeep Cherokee but the insurance declared it a
total loss. Luckily, it was equipped for towing so we were able to take it
to the inspection station 100 miles away (open one day per month) behind
the GMC instead of hiring a tow truck. It passed with flying colors Every
now and then one of our west coast GMCNeters reports that it's still
running fine. 
Ken H.
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Ken, I routinely deal in salvage titles. I am thoroughly convinced that any enforcement is directed towards stolen parts and revenue enhancement. I have never been through an inspection that was safety focussed. I rebuild or purchase 5 or 6 salvage vehicles a year. Some states used to have lots of loopholes but that has been pretty well closed--and not for the consumer's benefit as legislation may flaunt.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234903 is a reply to message #234737] |
Fri, 03 January 2014 06:30 |
jhbridges
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Yall should be aware of a couple of things. For one, be aware, for some several years the Governor was partnered with a guy in a business salvaging cars and titling them. I susopect the current setup was to his liking. The TV folks pointed this out the other day and he sold his share of the business.
For another, it isn't quite that much hassle if you deal directly with the tag folks, at least in rural counties. You got to fill out the forms and present the vehicle for inspection and pay the fees. I'll have to check, but I think pretty mmuch any deputy can inspect.
Also remember, in Georgia as in many other States, you don't need a title on an older car to get a tag for it. A bill of sale is sufficient, and then the State will issue you a title for the vehicle. I forget how old, but most of the classics and muscle cars can be traded on a simple bill of sale. I titled a pickup using a handwritten bill of sale. When/if I ever get my Mopar roadworthy, it is on a handwritten bill fo sale also, and the guy I bought it from is currently at room temperature.
--johnny
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From: Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection
It is fairly easy to get a rebuilt title in this state. Call the state police and they will come to you. Pictures of the damage and receipts for items used in the repair plus the salvage title is about all you need.
I can not remember the fee, but it is not much.
What got me on that Georgia site is they want to also inspect vehicles that already have rebuilt titles (and inspections) issued by other states.
I ran into a strange situation with a vehicle from the People's Republic Kalifornia. It had a "not rebuildable" title with only minor damage and could not be issued a rebuilt title there. The guy was stuck and could do nothing other than scrap it or export it. I found that Indiana would allow a "rebuilt" title to be issued after an Indiana inspection and would allow it to be driven here on a temporary transport plate if I would certify that it was roadworthy. I almost flew out to the Peoples Republic and drove it back. In the end the deal fell through. He sold it to someone from either Nevada or Arizona who did the same thing I was going to do. The real question on that one was if someone got a "rebuilt" title issued from out of state, could it then be sold to someone from the People's Republic of Kalifornia, imported back into the state, and titled there again.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234911 is a reply to message #234903] |
Fri, 03 January 2014 08:52 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
How long's it been since you titled a salvage titled vehicle? Maybe before
our 2007 encounter with the new law?
As you say, vehicles 1962 and older don't require titles (and they're not
issued). '62-85 vehicles must have titles issued, and then they're saddled
forever.
But once the insurance company notifies the state that they've declared a
vehicle a total loss, the state cancels registration and title, re-issuing
a Salvage Title. That takes the issue out of the hands of the county,
regardless of size and leniency. The procedure I mentioned originally is
required to convert the salvage title to a Salvage-Repaired Title. Maybe
you know a way around it; I don't, obviously.
For others' info, GA now has a new peculiar vehicle tax: In the past we've
paid sales tax upon purchase of a vehicle unless it was a private sale.
Then, each year, as part of the tag (registration) purchase, we paid an ad
valorem tax, based somehow on the vehicle's book value. As of 1 March
2013, we no longer pay sales tax, nor the annual ad valorem tax. Instead,
there's a 6.5% (rising annually to a potential 9%) "Title Ad Valorem Tax"
imposed at the time of purchase. That's applicable to ANY sale, so it's
obviously a way for the state to cash in on the active private sale market.
:-(
So my GMC, which I purchased with a bill of sale, is now titled in GA and I
pay an ad valorem tax each year (an oppressive $5, IIRC).
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> Yall should be aware of a couple of things. For one, be aware, for some
> several years the Governor was partnered with a guy in a business salvaging
> cars and titling them. I susopect the current setup was to his liking.
> The TV folks pointed this out the other day and he sold his share of the
> business.
> For another, it isn't quite that much hassle if you deal directly with the
> tag folks, at least in rural counties. You got to fill out the forms and
> present the vehicle for inspection and pay the fees. I'll have to check,
> but I think pretty mmuch any deputy can inspect.
> Also remember, in Georgia as in many other States, you don't need a title
> on an older car to get a tag for it. A bill of sale is sufficient, and
> then the State will issue you a title for the vehicle. I forget how old,
> but most of the classics and muscle cars can be traded on a simple bill of
> sale. I titled a pickup using a handwritten bill of sale. When/if I ever
> get my Mopar roadworthy, it is on a handwritten bill fo sale also, and the
> guy I bought it from is currently at room temperature.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234929 is a reply to message #234734] |
Fri, 03 January 2014 10:53 |
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>How long's it been since you titled a salvage titled vehicle? Maybe before our 2007 encounter with the new law?
I suspect this has changed, too. In the past, there were a couple of states (SC, NH?) that could be used to clean up a title. Reading the SC DMV site, things have apparently changed:
SECTION 56-19-485. Designation of vehicles as "wreckage" or "salvage", etc.
"No wrecked or salvaged out-of-state vehicle or South Carolina registered vehicle shall be registered under the laws of this State without such designation, and this designation must be applied to all subsequent transfers of the vehicle."
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c019.php
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| Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection [message #234934 is a reply to message #234911] |
Fri, 03 January 2014 11:29 |
jhbridges
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Yeh, it was before that, I hadda stop and think.
--johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Salvage Title Inspection
Johnny,
How long's it been since you titled a salvage titled vehicle? Maybe before
our 2007 encounter with the new law?
As you say, vehicles 1962 and older don't require titles (and they're not
issued). '62-85 vehicles must have titles issued, and then they're saddled
forever.
But once the insurance company notifies the state that they've declared a
vehicle a total loss, the state cancels registration and title, re-issuing
a Salvage Title. That takes the issue out of the hands of the county,
regardless of size and leniency. The procedure I mentioned originally is
required to convert the salvage title to a Salvage-Repaired Title. Maybe
you know a way around it; I don't, obviously.
For others' info, GA now has a new peculiar vehicle tax: In the past we've
paid sales tax upon purchase of a vehicle unless it was a private sale.
Then, each year, as part of the tag (registration) purchase, we paid an ad
valorem tax, based somehow on the vehicle's book value. As of 1 March
2013, we no longer pay sales tax, nor the annual ad valorem tax. Instead,
there's a 6.5% (rising annually to a potential 9%) "Title Ad Valorem Tax"
imposed at the time of purchase. That's applicable to ANY sale, so it's
obviously a way for the state to cash in on the active private sale market.
:-(
So my GMC, which I purchased with a bill of sale, is now titled in GA and I
pay an ad valorem tax each year (an oppressive $5, IIRC).
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> Yall should be aware of a couple of things. For one, be aware, for some
> several years the Governor was partnered with a guy in a business salvaging
> cars and titling them. I susopect the current setup was to his liking.
> The TV folks pointed this out the other day and he sold his share of the
> business.
> For another, it isn't quite that much hassle if you deal directly with the
> tag folks, at least in rural counties. You got to fill out the forms and
> present the vehicle for inspection and pay the fees. I'll have to check,
> but I think pretty mmuch any deputy can inspect.
> Also remember, in Georgia as in many other States, you don't need a title
> on an older car to get a tag for it. A bill of sale is sufficient, and
> then the State will issue you a title for the vehicle. I forget how old,
> but most of the classics and muscle cars can be traded on a simple bill of
> sale. I titled a pickup using a handwritten bill of sale. When/if I ever
> get my Mopar roadworthy, it is on a handwritten bill fo sale also, and the
> guy I bought it from is currently at room temperature.
>
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