| ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234620] |
Tue, 31 December 2013 18:21  |
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jaholland
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* Possible 403 Oil Pans ? *
I will R & R some of the things on my punch
list such as the timing chain, water pump,
fuel pumps and oil pump on our trusty 1978
Eleganza II with the 403.
While looking at the Aluminum timing cover,
Ragusa tranny pan and final drive cover I am
wondering about replacing the oil pan with a
finned Aluminum Oil Pan ~
What Is Available and what are the benifits ?
~ Joe ~][/I]]
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234623 is a reply to message #234620] |
Tue, 31 December 2013 18:40  |
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USAussie
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Joe,
I have NEVER seen a cast aluminum oil pan a front wheel drive Olds. I have seen fabricated oil pans for rear wheel drive Olds
engines on Jegs or Summit.
You could have one fabricated out of sheet aluminum but I think the gains in heat transfer wouldn't make much difference in the oil
temp.
If you have a properly functioning OEM radiator the oil will be cooled properly. If you're concerned add a remote air / oil cooler
downstream of the in radiator oil cooler.
Depending on how efficient that cooler was you might have to have add a temperature control valve if you were to drive the coach
during the winter.
Also be aware that in an Olds 455 / 403 the oil is filtered AFTER it is cooled, reducing the oil cooler inlet temp might affect the
flow rate through the filter.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: J A Holland
* Possible 403 Oil Pans ? *
I will R & R some of the things on my punch
list such as the timing chain, water pump,
fuel pumps and oil pump on our trusty 1978
Eleganza II with the 403.
While looking at the Aluminum timing cover,
Ragusa tranny pan and final drive cover I am
wondering about replacing the oil pan with a
finned Aluminum Oil Pan ~
What Is Available and what are the benifits ?
~ Joe ~][/I]]
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234636 is a reply to message #234624] |
Tue, 31 December 2013 19:41 |
Kingsley Coach
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Mike is correct. It has to be a Tornado oil pan !
Mike in NS
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> jaholland wrote on Tue, 31 December 2013 16:21
> > ... I am wondering about replacing the oil pan with a
> > finned Aluminum Oil Pan ~
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> > What Is Available and what are the benifits ?
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> It would have to be a pan for a Toro as it needs to have room for the axle
> to pass under the pan for the front wheel drive. While it doesn't mean
> there isn't any, I have not heard of any non-steel pan for the Toro.
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> Benefits?... I'd have to see the pan, maybe cooler, maybe more capacity,
> maybe some weight savings. But for the most part... not much.
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> There might be a reason there doesn't seem to be after-market oil pans for
> the Toro. :twisted:
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| Re: ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234642 is a reply to message #234620] |
Tue, 31 December 2013 21:05 |
Ken Burton
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The biggest reason I see for one not being offered is there is not much of a market because you have to pull the engine to install it. It is not a simple job like a transmission pan replacement.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234647 is a reply to message #234642] |
Tue, 31 December 2013 21:20 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 31 December 2013 20:05 |
The biggest reason I see for one not being offered is there is not much of a market because you have to pull the engine to install it. It is not a simple job like a transmission pan replacement.
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Not only that, there's no need for it.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: ~> 403 Oil Pan <~ [message #234668 is a reply to message #234647] |
Wed, 01 January 2014 00:11 |
Ken Burton
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| Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 31 December 2013 21:20 |
| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 31 December 2013 20:05 |
The biggest reason I see for one not being offered is there is not much of a market because you have to pull the engine to install it. It is not a simple job like a transmission pan replacement.
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Not only that, there's no need for it.
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Good Point
Happy New Year Bob.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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