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Sun, 29 December 2013 23:13  |
BobDunahugh
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Just some thought's. At the rallies. It's interesting in the different approaches that people take with their GMC's. It really comes down to their comfort zone. This isn't about a right, or wrong. Because there ISN'T a right or wrong. Good, or bad. It's about enjoying yourself your way. There are some that find an inexpensive coach. It could use a paint job maybe. Interior is showing it's age. And the 16.5's are 12 years old. They show up at the rally with a smile on their face. Their welcome mat is out. And not a care in the world. They maintain their GMC in a way that they feel right with. After all. They Changed the oil in the last few years . They think. And their approach on preventative maintenance is, why. They'll fix it as it breaks. The main thing is that their having a good time. It amazes me how well this approach seems to work for some.Then there are people like me. We bought our 78 Royale 12 years ago for about $15,000. Looked nice, and drove well. But when we
bought it. I knew the frig was dead,and it had a burned exhaust valve. Not a real problem, as I have the valve grinding equipment to fix the valve issue. And about 5 hours later. The 403 was running as it should. Changed all the fluids, engine oil, trans, power steering, and brake fluid. New 16 inch tires ( $1,000 ), and the frig ( Another $1,000 ) . We were on the road. Then THE SOUNDS came along.. It's people like me that listen to every LITTLE sound from bumper, to bumper. And then. Was that sound there 5 seconds ago, or not. This raises havoc with my COMFORT ZONE big time. Then came winter. Great time to check EVERYTHING out. And work on my comfort zone. I wanted a 3;70 final drive. I got the ring, and pinion from Applied, as putting differentials together is nothing new to me. Got the final drive all together. I will NEVER EVER do a GMC final drive ring, and pinion EVER EVER gain. I'll have Jim K do it when I go to 4;10. Well the final drive was out. I might as w
ell put a rebuild kit in the trans. Might as well pull the oil panto take a peek inside. New water pump, timing chain, radiator, belts, hoses, front end parts, all new brake parts, quad bags, disc brakes, and now EFI. The reality was that I have done all this on a GMC that didn't need hardly anything done to start with. But. My comfort zone is were I like it. We buy GMC's because we like them. It's a hobby that we enjoy working on, and driving. I think it's important for newbies to be aware of what their taking on. And knowing their own comfort zone. I know of two GMC's that are rotting away. Because the owners didn't think of the financial side of any hobby. You need to define YOUR comfort zone.
Bob Dunahugh4 Yenko's
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234421 is a reply to message #234416] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 02:04  |
appie
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Right Bob
years ago I did a transSahara trip, 4 wheeldrive lots of tools, lots of spares 566 pages of maintanence book, sandplates. maps and guidebooks-
Stuck in sand and mud 100 times. broken valve and piston repaired in campsite Marokko. injector cleaned for a ton of sand at friendly Frence workshop in Bogina Faso.
Bent pushrod in Mali.
Then in Togo at the hostal on ther coast comes this Norwegian/Indian couple with there VW van, no tools, no spares a handdrawn map of the Sahara. Never had a problem in the world. Except a small leak from the valvecover ( how do you get at these?)
Appie
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234428 is a reply to message #234421] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 06:59 |
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USAussie
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Appie,
Simple answer - it was a VW van! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
PS - Where did the pushrod bend - Timbuktu?
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From: lenze middelberg
Right Bob
years ago I did a transSahara trip, 4 wheeldrive lots of tools, lots of spares 566 pages of maintanence book, sandplates. maps and
guidebooks-
Stuck in sand and mud 100 times. broken valve and piston repaired in campsite Marokko. injector cleaned for a ton of sand at
friendly Frence workshop in Bogina Faso.
Bent pushrod in Mali.
Then in Togo at the hostal on ther coast comes this Norwegian/Indian couple with there VW van, no tools, no spares a handdrawn map
of the Sahara. Never had a problem in the world. Except a small leak from the valvecover (how do you get at these?)
Appie
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234436 is a reply to message #234416] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 08:11 |
appie
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Rob
pushrod bent at Gao
Hammered straight and worked the next 8000Km I owned the truck
By the way very inetersting in Marocco
The broken valvestem punctered the (alu) piston Maroccans thought that was no problem and welded the hole. Never deared using it though
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
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| [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234446 is a reply to message #234416] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 10:46 |
BobDunahugh
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I put this on the forum to get some thoughts out there about GMC's, Seems to have gone over to VW vans. But that was interesting too.
Just some thought's. At the rallies. It's interesting in the different approaches that people take with their GMC's. It really comes down to their comfort zone. This isn't about a right, or wrong. Because there ISN'T a right or wrong. Good, or bad. It's about enjoying yourself your way. There are some that find an inexpensive coach. It could use a paint job maybe. Interior is showing it's age. And the 16.5's are 12 years old. They show up at the rally with a smile on their face. Their welcome mat is out. And not a care in the world. They maintain their GMC in a way that they feel right with. After all. They Changed the oil in the last few years . They think. And their approach on preventative maintenance is, why. They'll fix it as it breaks. The main thing is that their having a good time. It amazes me how well this approach seems to work for some.Then there are people like me. We bought our 78 Royale 12 years ago for about $15,000. Looked nice, and drove well. But when we
bought it. I knew the frig was dead,and it had a burned exhaust valve. Not a real problem, as I have the valve grinding equipment to fix the valve issue. And about 5 hours later. The 403 was running as it should. Changed all the fluids, engine oil, trans, power steering, and brake fluid. New 16 inch tires ( $1,000 ), and the frig ( Another $1,000 ) . We were on the road. Then THE SOUNDS came along.. It's people like me that listen to every LITTLE sound from bumper, to bumper. And then. Was that sound there 5 seconds ago, or not. This raises havoc with my COMFORT ZONE big time. Then came winter. Great time to check EVERYTHING out. And work on my comfort zone. I wanted a 3;70 final drive. I got the ring, and pinion from Applied, as putting differentials together is nothing new to me. Got the final drive all together. I will NEVER EVER do a GMC final drive ring, and pinion EVER EVER gain. I'll have Jim K do it when I go to 4;10. Well the final drive was out. I might as w
ell put a rebuild kit in the trans. Might as well pull the oil panto take a peek inside. New water pump, timing chain, radiator, belts, hoses, front end parts, all new brake parts, quad bags, disc brakes, and now EFI. The reality was that I have done all this on a GMC that didn't need hardly anything done to start with. But. My comfort zone is were I like it. We buy GMC's because we like them. It's a hobby that we enjoy working on, and driving. I think it's important for newbies to be aware of what their taking on. And knowing their own comfort zone. I know of two GMC's that are rotting away. Because the owners didn't think of the financial side of any hobby. You need to define YOUR comfort zone.
Bob Dunahugh4 Yenko's
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234459 is a reply to message #234447] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 12:05 |
Jim Bounds
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The reality of a "comfort zone" has to be based on something. Kinda like what you need to spend for a god roof on your house. There is an average for that and everything.
The RV industry says "entry level" on a quality based (not a cracker box on wheels- new or used they are crap) downsized (under 30') is $100,000. Based on that, yes, a GMC is a cheaper fun toy in the box but you will still have an average investment of $50,000 (1/2 of what the industry expects) to have a good looking, remiable, comfortable, impressive motorhome that fits your needs. Looking at it that way, a GMC is 1/2 priced.
And I don;t care if you buy one for $5k or $30K, you will end up with $50K in it. Don't figure your time is worth nothing, you sell yourself short. I mean what are the weekends you have left in your life worth!
Jim Bounds
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You are right Bob...what's good for the goose is NOT necessarily good for the gander, meaning what I will live with is not the same as the next guy.
Bought a 78 PB (driver) for $7000. We now stand at $35000. invested and I'm not yet done...don't think I'll ever really be "done" !!
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234488 is a reply to message #234459] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 18:34 |
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| Jim Bounds wrote on Mon, 30 December 2013 11:05 |
And I don;t care if you buy one for $5k or $30K, you will end up with $50K in it. Don't figure your time is worth nothing, you sell yourself short. I mean what are the weekends you have left in your life worth!
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Hello, Jim. I understand what you're saying, but I think for many people on this forum working on the GMC falls into the "priceless" category. Working on a GMC is fun and satisfying. That's why you got into it, right?
“Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.”
― Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
Substitute GMC for boat, and there you have it.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC's The COST is in your Comfort Zone. [message #234498 is a reply to message #234488] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 19:36 |
Keith V
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| Richard V. wrote on Mon, 30 December 2013 18:34 |
| Jim Bounds wrote on Mon, 30 December 2013 11:05 |
And I don;t care if you buy one for $5k or $30K, you will end up with $50K in it. Don't figure your time is worth nothing, you sell yourself short. I mean what are the weekends you have left in your life worth!
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Hello, Jim. I understand what you're saying, but I think for many people on this forum working on the GMC falls into the "priceless" category. Working on a GMC is fun and satisfying. That's why you got into it, right?
“Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.”
― Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
Substitute GMC for boat, and there you have it.
Richard
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agreed, I can only think of one or two things i'd rather be doing than working on the GMC and I don't get paid for that either 
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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My427v8@hotmail.com
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