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| A little clarification please [message #233832] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 15:47  |
Otterwan
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Not to extend a sore subject, but I just had a chance to scroll back through a few days worth of posts and re-read Howard's last post, and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything that's been posted on the forum. I didn't see any Duck Dynasty posts or any reference to the article he linked to.
Did I miss something, or is there some misunderstanding? I don't see what Howard is reacting to, at least not in regard to this forum.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233833 is a reply to message #233832] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 15:59  |
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| Otterwan wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 15:47 |
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Did I miss something, or is there some misunderstanding? I don't see what Howard is reacting to, at least not in regard to this forum.
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Only Howard knows for sure but I expect it was from the bashing he received from you and others regarding his signature. Today's "We need a "new 'no religion, no off topic forum" thread... a fairly thinly veiled attack on Howard and others with strong beliefs and was probably the last straw. My opinion only but it would have sure irked me.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233834 is a reply to message #233833] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 16:05 |
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I wouldn't exactly call it "bashing", at least not on my part, and Howard and I have responded to each others posts many, many times since the one mild disagreement we had. My main confusion is why the Duck Dynasty link. That doesn't seem to correspond to anything in the forum.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233846 is a reply to message #233833] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 18:21 |
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 16:59 |
| Otterwan wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 15:47 |
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Did I miss something, or is there some misunderstanding? I don't see what Howard is reacting to, at least not in regard to this forum.
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Only Howard knows for sure but I expect it was from the bashing he received from you and others regarding his signature. Today's "We need a "new 'no religion, no off topic forum" thread... a fairly thinly veiled attack on Howard and others with strong beliefs and was probably the last straw. My opinion only but it would have sure irked me.
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First off, the thread of "no off topic" complies 100% with the rules of the forum both in content and in its purpose. That thread also mentioned posts about the evils of Mexico and the long-running debate about gun control, posts I don't think Howard was involved in but were also off-topic and unnecessary to the GMC community. Those threads are, without a doubt, against the Letter and Intent of the forum Terms of Service. If you don't like the TOS, ask for it to be changed, but don't get upset about people who don't like that the TOS isn't being followed, especially lately with a series of off-topic political and religious threads.
As for why he posted the Duck Dynasty link it is similar to what my four year old does when she feels insulted. One last yelled word to make everyone who apparently attacked him mad and then he slammed the door on the way out. You can view it however you want, but I get to see it about once a week as my children learn how to deal with society. It is well-known that not everyone outgrows this stage.
As for his signature, it never bothered me. However, the constant posting about religion was a bit irritating. And yes, I fully support the community telling Dan he is in their prayers, but I draw the line about proselytizing about faith healing. It doesn't belong here.
I fully understand those who consider this a "camp fire" community where they wish to come and talk about whatever they want with friends. However, that is not the purpose, the intent, or how the Terms of Service are written. This is a GMC community, and posts should be geared that way. For example, I am rather big in the NCAA Division III football scene. There is a very good discussion board (D3boards.com) for that and I wouldn't dream of inserting it into threads here the way people do about religion and politics. Just because it is my interest, and there might be other people here who share it, does not make this the appropriate place to discuss it.
There are thousands of religious and political forums where people can discuss those topics. There is clearly a group of people on this forum who wish those topics would got the appropriate place and the board TOS would be more strongly adhered to. I don't think that is an unreasonable position.
By the way, this come directly from the TOS, take issue with it if you will...
"Political or religious commentaries or discussions. Only when there is a specific legislative bill or regulatory NPRM directly related to ownership of GMC motorhomes will political discussions be tolerated."
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233856 is a reply to message #233832] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 20:09 |
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Ok, let's just quit dancing around this and talk about the Elephant in the room.
Jeremy, personally I believe you owe Howard an apology. He's been beat up here on a several occasions simply because his signature has "Lord" in it. I don't recall him proselytizing or ever getting into why his signature is what it is until one of these threads come up. When asked, he has responded but never in an attacking way. To my recollection, he hasn't been any more off topic than many others.
It seems to me that the only time religion comes up is when someone who isn't religious is suddenly offended. Face it, Christianity is under assault from all sides these days and we're feeling a bit under attack. No, let me be blunt, we ARE under attack. Everyone else can say and or believe anything they want but Heaven forbid if a Christian makes a reference to prayer or, gasp, the Holy Bible. Oh, the horror, an agnostic has to hear that there are people who believe in a higher power! Give me a break!
I've been to two major rallies. Before each meal, a blessing is said. Not everyone who eats believes, and not everyone who believes, believes the same things, but we're all quiet during the blessing because it's RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. On Sundays, there is a worship service and by my observation, a large majority of the attendees attend. Those that don't wish to don't stand at the back and scream about being offended, they respect the Christians (and probably a few Jews) and just go do something else. That's their right and I haven't seen anyone getting in anyone's face because they weren't in the service.
Folks, we are a community of several hundred from all walks of life and backgrounds. If anyone here is of the opinion that they have all the right answers to everything, they are fools and I'm not just talking about GMC's. You are NEVER going to get EVERYONE to believe or vote or anything else the same way you do.
Get over it and show a little tolerance and respect for others.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Glad Festivus, and Bless the Earth Mother
in excelsis Deo!
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233858 is a reply to message #233856] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 20:20 |
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 18:09 |
Ok, let's just quit dancing around this and talk about the Elephant in the room.
Jeremy, personally I believe you owe Howard an apology. He's been beat up here on a several occasions simply because his signature has "Lord" in it. I don't recall him proselytizing or ever getting into why his signature is what it is until one of these threads come up. When asked, he has responded but never in an attacking way. To my recollection, he hasn't been any more off topic than many others.
It seems to me that the only time religion comes up is when someone who isn't religious is suddenly offended. Face it, Christianity is under assault from all sides these days and we're feeling a bit under attack. No, let me be blunt, we ARE under attack. Everyone else can say and or believe anything they want but Heaven forbid if a Christian makes a reference to prayer or, gasp, the Holy Bible. Oh, the horror, an agnostic has to hear that there are people who believe in a higher power! Give me a break!
I've been to two major rallies. Before each meal, a blessing is said. Not everyone who eats believes, and not everyone who believes, believes the same things, but we're all quiet during the blessing because it's RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. On Sundays, there is a worship service and by my observation, a large majority of the attendees attend. Those that don't wish to don't stand at the back and scream about being offended, they respect the Christians (and probably a few Jews) and just go do something else. That's their right and I haven't seen anyone getting in anyone's face because they weren't in the service.
Folks, we are a community of several hundred from all walks of life and backgrounds. If anyone here is of the opinion that they have all the right answers to everything, they are fools and I'm not just talking about GMC's. You are NEVER going to get EVERYONE to believe or vote or anything else the same way you do.
Get over it and show a little tolerance and respect for others.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Glad Festivus, and Bless the Earth Mother
in excelsis Deo!
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Kerry, this is in no way directed at your or Howard, but my experience is the exact opposite of what you describe. Religious people in this forum can say whatever they want, whenever they want, but let someone ask them to refrain from proselytizing or stay on topic an they are the ones that get reamed.
I can't remember a single instance of anyone in this forum expressing their lack of belief other than in response to someone's overt expression of belief. How is that "attacking"?
I am a firm advocate of live and let live. That doesn't mean I need to sit idly by while someone expounds on something I don't agree with.
End of rant. Let's get back to talking about GMC's. You remember those, right?
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233859 is a reply to message #233836] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 20:53 |
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| Harry wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 15:41 |
A new forum for off topic?
Would you say that Dan G's bout with cancer is off topic?
Maybe so, but we all chimed in with different stories etc.
Same with God, Jesus, Ducks and all the other things that go on here. Just live with it and it will go away. If you do open a topic that you don't like, close it and move on. No need to criticize.
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233860 is a reply to message #233846] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 21:08 |
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On Dec 23, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Jeremy wrote:
> "Political or religious commentaries or discussions. Only when there is a specific legislative bill or regulatory NPRM directly related to ownership of GMC motorhomes will political discussions be tolerated."
If this was adhered to, there would be way fewer of these nasty exchanges. Why can't some of these posters control themselves? It seems a very small though frequent percent of posters that throw out most of the gratuitous political snark, and then depend on the support of a like minded majority for their violation of the rules.
The rules are there for everyone, not just for those holding minority political beliefs or those not of the majority religion. That's the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, to prevent the Tyranny Of The Majority. And that's why most of us have taken to heart the well known advice to avoid discussing politics and religion in inappropriate settings.
Not to trigger another hot button topic, but I do want to wish all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.*
Tim Conway
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*To me, the holidays are not JUST Christmas Day, but start with Thanksgiving, end with New Years Eve and Day, and include Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Saturnalia or ANY other group's celebration of the season. Happy Holidays is NOT a slap at Christians but a wish for any and all during this season. I always say Merry Christmas to those I know that celebrate it.
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233861 is a reply to message #233856] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 21:11 |
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 21:09 |
Ok, let's just quit dancing around this and talk about the Elephant in the room.
Jeremy, personally I believe you owe Howard an apology. He's been beat up here on a several occasions simply because his signature has "Lord" in it. I don't recall him proselytizing or ever getting into why his signature is what it is until one of these threads come up. When asked, he has responded but never in an attacking way. To my recollection, he hasn't been any more off topic than many others.
It seems to me that the only time religion comes up is when someone who isn't religious is suddenly offended. Face it, Christianity is under assault from all sides these days and we're feeling a bit under attack. No, let me be blunt, we ARE under attack. Everyone else can say and or believe anything they want but Heaven forbid if a Christian makes a reference to prayer or, gasp, the Holy Bible. Oh, the horror, an agnostic has to hear that there are people who believe in a higher power! Give me a break!
I've been to two major rallies. Before each meal, a blessing is said. Not everyone who eats believes, and not everyone who believes, believes the same things, but we're all quiet during the blessing because it's RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. On Sundays, there is a worship service and by my observation, a large majority of the attendees attend. Those that don't wish to don't stand at the back and scream about being offended, they respect the Christians (and probably a few Jews) and just go do something else. That's their right and I haven't seen anyone getting in anyone's face because they weren't in the service.
Folks, we are a community of several hundred from all walks of life and backgrounds. If anyone here is of the opinion that they have all the right answers to everything, they are fools and I'm not just talking about GMC's. You are NEVER going to get EVERYONE to believe or vote or anything else the same way you do.
Get over it and show a little tolerance and respect for others.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Glad Festivus, and Bless the Earth Mother
in excelsis Deo!
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We'll just agree to disagree Kerry. I'm a tolerant guy, but there is no place in this forum for the Duck Dynasty controversy, which Howard brought up for no reason other than he wanted to invoke Christianity and the current beliefs about it into this forum as a parting shot. Then he slammed the door and said I'm out of here. Why else did he do it but to irritate people and then bail out to try and avoid a repercussion? I make my kids apologize and explain why it is wrong when they do it, why should I apologize to Howard when he does it? Whatever else you want to say about him, that act stands as a pretty good indicator of what he had going on in the end.
I don't care what people believe. I don't care if Christianity is or isn't under attack, or if you feel you are being persecuted. I can name dozens of groups that I feel are more persecuted that aren't brought up in this forum since it is NOT THE TIME OR THE PLACE. I also never said HOWARD proselytized anything. I said some of the topics has inappropriate proselytizing in them. I think his signature was just fine and said so. My problem was with his exit, which happened to be tied to a lot of off topic info that ISN'T ALLOWED by the TOS, as I pointed out and quoted.
If you want to be offended every time someone says Christianity has a time and place, but this isn't it, that is your right and your issue. But don't expect me to agree. Or to apologize to someone who stormed off after an inappropriate posting.
Now, we'll just move on our merry way both thinking we are right, and both assured we will never convince the other.
My GMC is winterized, but I fully intend to do some interior upgrades in the next few months. Need to get a "travel and rainy day only" tv installed for the kids, no watching during sunny camping days! And it's time to get rid of the curtains and get some nice honey comb blinds. I think that will give it a cleaner and more airy look on the inside.
Thankfully after our trip to FL, she seems mechanically sound, so it'll just be a good long service and check over before our first trip. Mardi Gras in Mobile, more family oriented I hear, has been mentioned. Also a long trip to Myrtle Beach and the SC/GA coast was mooted as a possibility for the summer. Can't wait to get her moving again!
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233863 is a reply to message #233858] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 21:48 |
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I agree 100%
I'm on quite a few forums/mailing lists and it seems like this one has more "Bible-thumping" and references than all the others combined...
This may be related to only a few individuals - I've never really analyzed it closely to know. I figured it was related to the average demographics of GMC owners (that's likely also indicated by the blessings/services mentioned, as well).
I've been to rallies/meeting for some of my other vehicles and there are no prayers before the meetings/meals! They must all be driven by heathens!
Rob
On 2013-12-23, at 6:20 PM, David Orders wrote:
> Kerry, this is in no way directed at your or Howard, but my experience is the exact opposite of what you describe. Religious people in this forum can say whatever they want, whenever they want, but let someone ask them to refrain from proselytizing or stay on topic an they are the ones that get reamed.
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> I can't remember a single instance of anyone in this forum expressing their lack of belief other than in response to someone's overt expression of belief. How is that "attacking"?
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> I am a firm advocate of live and let live. That doesn't mean I need to sit idly by while someone expounds on something I don't agree with.
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> End of rant. Let's get back to talking about GMC's. You remember those, right?
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233866 is a reply to message #233865] |
Mon, 23 December 2013 23:10 |
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I've seen some of the "christians" say things that I was offended by here,
but I've let it slide (here is one hint, it shouldn't make headlines when
the pope says an atheist can be a good person, but it does for good
reason), I've seen people say some really dumb things about Bush's 3&4th
terms (here is a hint, government employment is down, with the exception of
the usual census spike (and as someone who has been known to wear a strict
constitutionist hat at times, is one of the few things that is clearly
required (let alone authorized), and people were bitching about the same
sort of intrusive questions when Hamilton ran it), and I let that slide. I
let dumb hoplophobia comments slide.
Why?
BECAUSE THEY ARE OFF TOPIC AND DETRACT FROM THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM!!!
I'm a moderate extremest who believes in good food and plenty of holidays.
When someone like Warren Buffet says there was a class war, and his class
won, I'm inclined to pay attention. I think this might be a little extreme
http://www.popehat.com/2013/12/23/burn-the-fucking-system-to-the-ground/ but
I cannot say he's wrong.
More importantly, I think your sig file should be no more than 4 lines of
66 characters each, but for here, I wouldn't count GMC/location info
against that.
Stay on topic, and remember, generally people are more pleasant face to
face than on line.
:-D
Ron
no GMC yet
Redwood City, California (which should be kept weird)
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233868 is a reply to message #233863] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 00:47 |
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| Rob wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 21:48 |
I'm on quite a few forums/mailing lists and it seems like this one has more "Bible-thumping" and references than all the others combined...
This may be related to only a few individuals - I've never really analyzed it closely to know. I figured it was related to the average demographics of GMC owners (that's likely also indicated by the blessings/services mentioned, as well).
I've been to rallies/meeting for some of my other vehicles and there are no prayers before the meetings/meals! They must all be driven by heathens!
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I have to agree with you Rob.
John
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OC, CA
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1969 Lotus Elan Plus 2,
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233871 is a reply to message #233870] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 02:25 |
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yea! and we should all be for wanking in the constitution now, lets go guys!
this goes for the gmc as well!
Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Larry Davick wrote:
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> Your signature line shows that you are across the bay in Redwood City. It's no wonder you have no complaints. Aside from not having a coach you live in the beautiful Bay Area. Aside from that you live in Redwood City which proudly exclaimed on an arch over (?) street "Climate Best by Government Test"
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> Now with your proximity to Jim K, so long as your wallet is fat you've no excuse to be coach-less!
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> Larry Davick
> Born in SF, raised in Palo Alto
> A Mystery Machine
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> Fremont, CA
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>> Ron
>> no GMC yet
>> Redwood City, California (which should be kept weird)
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233872 is a reply to message #233832] |
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I try to stay away from politics and religion on this forum because I might piss off the person of whose help I might need one day. Sometimes one of my buttons may get pushed but I just grit my teeth (if they're not in a glass of water) and get over it.
BTW, I understand that the average age of a GMC owner is 69. That generation is more apt to be religious, with a military background, and a present or former owner of one or more of the cool cars, so that's what they like to talk about, and IMHO that is probably why it shows up here a lot.
Since it is now 0350 hours Tuesday morning, I think this subject has been flogged to death. So everyone play nice and I'm going to sleep.
Jerry Sitzlar..... 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath...... Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233873 is a reply to message #233871] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 03:22 |
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I agree with most everyone so far about this off thread, unless it is a good attempt to be funny. Funny trumps thread. but
this throw the duck thing as i go out the door is a bit one sided collaboration. Promotion of one's ideas is different than
participation with one's special interest. This is called indigenizing. To bring under control by influence of the group to one's
special interest. This is in direct counter distinction to participating along with one's special interest kept to one's self.
a fine line to take and one must be highly intellectual to do this right. When Jim K or Jim B say they have these parts and
they have done this that way and it works better, i love this for it is science, setting in order the facts of experience in the attempt
to do it in the most economical way. This is sharing experience by experience that are some what facts of doing and seeing it done.
Like Manny pure great info and pure great know how. The opinion of an owner that just started and just put in a toilet, and what he did or her and how it worked. This is what i want to know, as well as the more advanced stuff that the manual states that Rob digs out
But to get all up set about a religion when there are so many and as our Aussie friend wisely stated we are not all Americans here and we should think comprehensive about collaboration or working with all the people in the world that could be here like Denmark
as well as just someone lurking from Saudi Arabia. It has been a cob web cleaning out here - it appears. I have found everyone's
off thread thread very interesting. As most have stated, this is working fine, and a revolt every once - gets us all clear minded until a new duck hunter comes along to start a bar fight. Just ignore and explore! look for facts and retracts. fine and dine, fun and scum.
we bad! But the only thing that trumps all is if it is funny let us all know it. If laughing is part of this thing i am fighting for that.
happy boxing day happy new year, i think i ordered my 2014 calendar. I feel that praying is an interactive wave form in the universe
that could very well bring intention to forces that conduct the speed of light forming order that was not there before the act of doing it.
I pray we all get happy and have a better life for ever. The volume that surrounds us out past the stars omni-directional-halo like
can be named what ever you want, but it is the same for us all what ever you call it. If you ask the volume to help it may work?
mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle wrote:
> yea! and we should all be for wanking in the constitution now, lets go guys!
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> this goes for the gmc as well!
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> Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.
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> On Dec 24, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Larry Davick wrote:
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>> Ron,
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>> Your signature line shows that you are across the bay in Redwood City. It's no wonder you have no complaints. Aside from not having a coach you live in the beautiful Bay Area. Aside from that you live in Redwood City which proudly exclaimed on an arch over (?) street "Climate Best by Government Test"
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>> Now with your proximity to Jim K, so long as your wallet is fat you've no excuse to be coach-less!
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>> Larry Davick
>> Born in SF, raised in Palo Alto
>> A Mystery Machine
>> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
>> Fremont, CA
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>>> Ron
>>> no GMC yet
>>> Redwood City, California (which should be kept weird)
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| Re: A little clarification please [message #233874 is a reply to message #233832] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 03:48 |
appie
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One thing I like about all this going gmc-offtopic is that it gives a european like me a wonderfull insight in American sociaty that would be difficult to find elswhere.
Thank you
Appie
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little clarification please [message #233883 is a reply to message #233874] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 08:17 |
Ken Henderson
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Appie,
Whether we realize and/or admit it or not, it does the same for most of us.
Cloistered within our own sections of the country and circle of
acquaintences, we tend to forget how varied are the perceptions and
attitudes of the American people -- even our close internet friends. Thus
we're sometimes surprised by the seemingly absurd swings in our political
situation. That's why I don't get very uptight about thread wander.
Ken H.
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 4:48 AM, lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk>wrote:
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> One thing I like about all this going gmc-offtopic is that it gives a
> european like me a wonderfull insight in American sociaty that would be
> difficult to find elswhere.
>
> Thank you
> --
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