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Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233741] Sun, 22 December 2013 22:13 Go to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Some of you may have seen my thread about possibly getting 2 GMC MHs.

The first GMC I found is a great candidate for parts, things I want and really need, once I get it home.
However, the second one I came across, while comparing what I was getting from the first coach for its price, is not great, but nicer, worth saving and not part out.

I have enough frequent flyer miles to fly out west twice.
If all goes well in spring 2014 I hope to fly out to CA and drive one GMC back home towing a rare boat.
Summer is my back up plan if spring time does not work out.
Late summer or fall is when I hope to go back out west to get second GMC.

At this time I believe, and I will check to be sure, that the rims on both coaches are 16.5” rims.

I only want to buy one set of tires to get both coaches home.
I will not need a new set of tires for the parts coach once I get it home.
I would be buying nicer rims at a later date when I can afford them; if the newer coach does have the odd 16.5” size.

My plan right now is to buy one set of 6 new tires either from Tire Rack or local in CA and have them installed on the coach I will be driving back home first.

My Question to the kind people of GMCnet – who have welcomed me thus far without a GMC:

Is there a way that I could get some members to help me get just the tires back across country one time to get the last coach home? (If I were to buy both coaches and one set of new 16.5 tires to get them both home.)

When: Summer 2014
From: Ogdensburg, NY to Sacramento, CA...


Thank you for your time and consideration!
Sincerely, Tony


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233747 is a reply to message #233741] Sun, 22 December 2013 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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BTW - I'm not sure if one could tie them down to the roof rack or not? Would they be too heavy?

Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233751 is a reply to message #233747] Sun, 22 December 2013 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can not see any economical way to ship 6 tires, especially if they are on wheels, across the country. You might try posting them on u-ship and see if you get any takers.

You might find someone with an old set of 16.5" wheels and tires near your origination point that they want to get rid of. I have a set of six in my hangar near Chicago that you could have but that does not help much.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233756 is a reply to message #233741] Sun, 22 December 2013 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

Thank you for the offer on the tires.
The DOT and how far, west to east, I have to drive at highways speeds is a big concern!

BTW - I'm looking to tranpost just the TIRES - NO Rims!
And I'm looking into other ways of doing it too. I just thought I ask here - as I don't like to place all my eggs in one basket. Very Happy

Plus I have until I get back with the first coach to work it out and have them shipped back west, to get it all worked out, before I leave to fly back out there again.


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233759 is a reply to message #233756] Sun, 22 December 2013 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still suggest that you try U-ship


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233772 is a reply to message #233741] Mon, 23 December 2013 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could consider selling the new tires once you have them on the east coast. The money you get for them would help offset the cost of the second set. Do the math and compare total net cost to the total net cost of shipping. You would not be out anything if you could not get an acceptable price.

I would consider a fresh set of lightly used 16.5 tires, on or off rims for a fair price.
I was hoping to get a set of shiny new aluminum wheels for Christmas but the CFO (wife) says no. Apparently I have not been a good boy.

I like Ken's idea of U ship.



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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233782 is a reply to message #233741] Mon, 23 December 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the input.

I have been searching for other ways to get this done - before I posted here.
I even asked the Corvair site that I belong to as well.

Someone came up with this helpful information (how to ship tires and rims) and I thought I share it here. Maybe it might help someone here someday.
http://howtoshipwheels.com/

These are the only 16.5 tires I found so far @ $156.00ea ($936.00 for 6)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Transforce+HT&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=875R65THT&tab=Sizes& AID=10398365&PID=5484387&

BTW - I have tried U-ship but it has never worked out for me.
I tried it with at least 2 if not 4 Ultravans and the Wayne 100 boats.

The one and only time I do hire someone from U-ship - he picked up the first Ultravan that was only an hour and half from his house.
He then took it to his house and it stayed there for about 2 weeks.
He entire one-way trip to pick up and deliver both Ultravans was less than 525 miles.
The US Border crossing that checks exported vehicles is only open M-F from 8am till 4pm.
But he kept giving me all kinds of excuses why he could not get them both here on time and why he could never meet the next deadline.

I ended up having to go myself, meet up with a new hauler that I hired, to get it and the second UV the first driver was to pick up on the way here in the same haul and bring them both to their new home.

When I showed up at the U-Ship driver's house; his eyes popped out and his mouth dropped as he stood there in stock with a large mug of beer in his hand. While I was there checking out UV512 that he had already picked up - I measured his trailer. To my surprise his trailer was NOT long enough to pick up both coaches in one haul like I wanted and he said he would do. Me thinks - he knew this after picking up the first UV #512 in MA and he was holding out for more money once he had the first coach back at home. That way he could then deliver one and go back to get the other and deliver it = making two trips instead of one for his mistake.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8293779545_cde15e75a8_z.jpg
Here is a picture of UV512 from MA (up front) and UV362 from CT (on the back) sitting in the parking lot at Lowe's in Ogdensburg, NY.
The driver's spent the night there and was waiting on me to show up; because I am the one who brokers them across the border.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8293779545_cde15e75a8_z.jpg



Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233783 is a reply to message #233772] Mon, 23 December 2013 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve Adams wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 06:50

You could consider selling the new tires once you have them on the east coast. The money you get for them would help offset the cost of the second set. Do the math and compare total net cost to the total net cost of shipping. You would not be out anything if you could not get an acceptable price.

I would consider a fresh set of lightly used 16.5 tires, on or off rims for a fair price.
I was hoping to get a set of shiny new aluminum wheels for Christmas but the CFO (wife) says no. Apparently I have not been a good boy.

I like Ken's idea of U ship.





Steve, I hope Santa comes through for you. Smile (EDIT - I found the wrong face.. I meant a smiley face and not one with the tongue sticking out.) LOL


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: [GMCnet] Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233794 is a reply to message #233783] Mon, 23 December 2013 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't had time to follow this entire thread-- if you are talking about transoirting used tires -- well do whatever, there is no warranty or anything.  If you are working with new tires, I gotta tell ya it's as much who will you go see if there is a problem as it is the cost of the tire.  If fact, I want to be able to take a tires back to a brick and mortar store that will have my best interests in mind (trying to have a happy local customer) than being just a name on an invoice.  Cost is always a factor but also is support.  Support your local tire story or they will not be there to support you!
 
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Steve Adams wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 06:50
> You could consider selling the new tires once you have them on the east coast. The money you get for them would help offset the cost of the second set. Do the math and compare total net cost to the total net cost of shipping. You would not be out anything if you could not get an acceptable price.
>
> I would consider a fresh set of lightly used 16.5 tires, on or off rims for a fair price. 
> I was hoping to get a set of shiny new aluminum wheels for Christmas but the CFO (wife) says no. Apparently I have not been a good boy.
>
> I like Ken's idea of U ship.



Steve, I hope Santa comes through for you.  :p
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Re: [GMCnet] Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233797 is a reply to message #233794] Mon, 23 December 2013 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And "tire stores" that have wide (even nation-wide) presence such as Sears and Walmart offer almost universal support for folks that travel a lot. Some tire brands such as Goodyear and Firestone also have tire and general maintenance outlets, as well. Some large tire chains also have wide, multi- state presence.

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> On Dec 23, 2013, at 10:11, "Jim Bounds" <gmccoop@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't had time to follow this entire thread-- if you are talking about transoirting used tires -- well do whatever, there is no warranty or anything. If you are working with new tires, I gotta tell ya it's as much who will you go see if there is a problem as it is the cost of the tire. If fact, I want to be able to take a tires back to a brick and mortar store that will have my best interests in mind (trying to have a happy local customer) than being just a name on an invoice. Cost is always a factor but also is support. Support your local tire story or they will not be there to support you!
>
> Jim Bounds
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> Steve Adams wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 06:50
>> You could consider selling the new tires once you have them on the east coast. The money you get for them would help offset the cost of the second set. Do the math and compare total net cost to the total net cost of shipping. You would not be out anything if you could not get an acceptable price.
>>
>> I would consider a fresh set of lightly used 16.5 tires, on or off rims for a fair price.
>> I was hoping to get a set of shiny new aluminum wheels for Christmas but the CFO (wife) says no. Apparently I have not been a good boy.
>>
>> I like Ken's idea of U ship.
>
>
>
> Steve, I hope Santa comes through for you. :p
> --
> Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it - let us know.
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Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233800 is a reply to message #233741] Mon, 23 December 2013 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

I agree with you. I’m a retired business owner and I have always dealt with other local vendors and even other businesses.
Even though I'm retired I still do so to this day.
However, most of it does not apply in this/my current situation with the 2 GMCs I need to drive back east.

I could go into - but I did not want to bore everyone or keep repeating myself. Smile (Wow, I just noticed I might have used a wrong face in another post somewhere Oops)

Thank you and everyone thus far for your input/advice.


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233908 is a reply to message #233800] Tue, 24 December 2013 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Support is why my new tires on my current GMC are from Wal-Mart. Non-Support is why I have never bought Goodyear Tires since 1983, and I will continue to avoid them.
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Tom that makes sense.
But sadly that does not help me find other options to get a set of tires back out west so I can drive the 2nd GMC back east.

I simply do not want to purchase 12 tires (or spend an additional $1,000 for tires) to be able to drive 2 west coast GMCs back east.


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233930 is a reply to message #233741] Tue, 24 December 2013 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you looked at the tires? Out of 14 tires and wheels are you saying that there are not 6 decent ones?

Choose 6 decent ones, with a couple of spares and drive one of the coaches home. Then for the second coach replace the six worse tires with the new tires and drive the other coach back.

You can drive either coach home first.

I once went with a another GMCer to retrieve a sight unseen coach out of a junk yard on the east coast. We took 3 spares tires on wheels with us. We replaced two obvious bad ones before we left and kept the 3rd as a spare for the return trip.

Tires were the least of the problem. We had to replace rear brake lines in an AZ parking lot and at least 50% of the light bulbs all over the coach did not work.

A second option is to take a second driver with you and drive both coaches back at the same time. This way you have a backup if one coach becomes undrivable.

If you have a trailer hitch, tow bar, and vacuum pump for brakes you could also tow one with the other one if one broke down. I realize you also want to move a boat but it could be left somewhere and retrieved later with just about any vehicle if necessary.

Check out the condition of the existing tires.

I have driven three "junk" coaches cross country and tires were never the problem.

Lots of other things went bad like rusty gas tanks, a bad / leaking fuel line, no heat, bad master cylinder, rusted / broken brake lines, a broken belt, a blown heater hose, and 2 bad batteries were some of the issues. I had one where the carb shaft froze. All were repaired on the road and the coaches were driven to their destination.

Do not be in any rush to get to your destination.

These are just some thoughts of mine.






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Re: [GMCnet] Can I get some GMCnet members to help me transport new tires across country? [message #233931 is a reply to message #233930] Tue, 24 December 2013 19:54 Go to previous message
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If you have a class A license, consider renting a Penske truck with a
flatbed. Load your GMC on it, tires are not an issue. for the second one,
do the same. Do you have a small Toyota truck or SUV type toad? If so, when
you get the first GMC home, load it with your tires, drive back west and
use your tires, toad the vehicle that got you there back.

Barring that, call Greyhound (yes,that Greyhound-- the Bus line) they ship
many car parts and odd size things all the time. I have used it for car
parts and rims before.
Hey its worth a shot.

Sammy Williams

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On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Have you looked at the tires? Out of 14 tires and wheels are you saying
> that there are not 6 decent ones?
>
> Choose 6 decent ones, with a couple of spares and drive one of the coaches
> home. Then for the second coach replace the six worse tires with the new
> tires and drive the other coach back.
>
> You can drive either coach home first.
>
> I once went with a another GMCer to retrieve a sight unseen coach out of a
> junk yard on the east coast. We took 3 spares tires on wheels with us. We
> replaced two obvious bad ones before we left and kept the 3rd as a spare
> for the return trip.
>
> Tires were the least of the problem. We had to replace rear brake lines
> in an AZ parking lot and at least 50% of the light bulbs all over the coach
> did not work.
>
> A second option is to take a second driver with you and drive both coaches
> back at the same time. This way you have a backup if one coach becomes
> undrivable.
>
> If you have a trailer hitch, tow bar, and vacuum pump for brakes you could
> also tow one with the other one if one broke down. I realize you also want
> to move a boat but it could be left somewhere and retrieved later with just
> about any vehicle if necessary.
>
> Check out the condition of the existing tires.
>
> I have driven three "junk" coaches cross country and tires were never the
> problem.
>
> Lots of other things went bad like rusty gas tanks, a bad / leaking fuel
> line, no heat, bad master cylinder, rusted / broken brake lines, a broken
> belt, a blown heater hose, and 2 bad batteries were some of the issues. I
> had one where the carb shaft froze. All were repaired on the road and the
> coaches were driven to their destination.
>
> Do not be in any rush to get to your destination.
>
> These are just some thoughts of mine.
>
>
>
>
>
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> 76 Palm Beach
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