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gbarrow2 is currently offline  gbarrow2   United States
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I wished for an early court date to get a deadbeat tenant out of a property.
Got the notice a week ago that trial date is 8:30 a.m. Dec. 24, Christmas Eve.
The court is in Long Beach; only 400+ miles away.
Not possible to take the GMC and make it back to the Bay Area for Christmas Eve dinner at my daughter's.

So, flying down on the 23rd and hoping to get out of court early enough for a Tuesday afternoon flight back.

Would have been cheaper to lose another months rent to the deadbeat if I hadn't already paid all the court costs.
The court system in The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia is very friendly to tenants. Not so much for property owners.

Thanks to all you netters for your help and advise over the past year.

Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to all.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233661 is a reply to message #233660] Sat, 21 December 2013 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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Up here we have the Landlord Tenant Act. In some cases you can not remove a bad tenant during the winter months. It may be a hardship on them. Possibly you can lose another 6 months rent.
If I ever have another rental suite, I would hire a company that collects the rent and checks on the unit every month. They get 10% of the rent, but it would be worth it.
Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233662 is a reply to message #233661] Sat, 21 December 2013 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gbarrow2 is currently offline  gbarrow2   United States
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Harry,

Weather dependent court evictions? What a concept!!

Maybe Kalifornia is not as bad as it could be.



Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233669 is a reply to message #233660] Sat, 21 December 2013 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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last time i did this
- they got 90 days to get ready (live for free)
- took them to court (paid the costs)
- won
- would not pay
- gave to credit group for 1/2 of award
- got nothing

good luck
gene


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:00 PM, gene barrow <barrowgene@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I wished for an early court date to get a deadbeat tenant out of a
> property.
> Got the notice a week ago that trial date is 8:30 a.m. Dec. 24, Christmas
> Eve.
> The court is in Long Beach; only 400+ miles away.
> Not possible to take the GMC and make it back to the Bay Area for
> Christmas Eve dinner at my daughter's.
>
> So, flying down on the 23rd and hoping to get out of court early enough
> for a Tuesday afternoon flight back.
>
> Would have been cheaper to lose another months rent to the deadbeat if I
> hadn't already paid all the court costs.
> The court system in The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia is very friendly to
> tenants. Not so much for property owners.
>
> Thanks to all you netters for your help and advise over the past year.
>
> Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to all.
>
> --
> Gene Barrow
> Lake Almanor, Ca.
> 1976 Palm Beach
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Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233670 is a reply to message #233662] Sat, 21 December 2013 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Around here there is something called a "real estate emergency". An attorney presents the paper work to a judge. Tenant and owner need not be present. The sheriff moves the tenant out of the street by the next morning. Sometimes it is the same day. The the owner "fixes" the emergency problem after the tenant leaves and rents the building again. We have lots of emergencies around here.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233671 is a reply to message #233669] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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I had a friend that would pay the deadbeats to get out of his rentals.
Would give them up to a couple of thousand dollars to leave and to
leave the rental in nice condition without taking or damaging
anything. He said it worked everytime and it was cheaper in the long
run..
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73 CL Stretch in Wa.

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> last time i did this
> - they got 90 days to get ready (live for free)
> - took them to court (paid the costs)
> - won
> - would not pay
> - gave to credit group for 1/2 of award
> - got nothing
>
> good luck
> gene
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Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233672 is a reply to message #233660] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to manage for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income worth it.

I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good idea to get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually paying the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233674 is a reply to message #233672] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwayne jacobson[1] is currently offline  dwayne jacobson[1]   United States
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I have been a landlord for 20 years with approx 700 resident tenants. The
laws in BC are stacked against the landlord.
Took over an apartment building and first time in noticed an electrical
cord running across the hall from one suite to another.
Asked the one tenant what's up with the cord. "No Hydro so borrowing power
from friend" at the door greeting me besides this
rough looking dude were 2 pit bull dogs. I wnet to the other suite -
following the cord. The guy comes to the door cracks it open a little
in order to keep his Pit bull inside. I said this was dangerous. I called
Hydro and told that they would not connect power to the suite as long
as Mr. X was a tenant. (must have ripped Hydro off prior) So I told him
he had to vacate which he did without any further dealings except
there was a fair amount of slean-up required plus new carpet and paint
before re-renting. Now the other guy - I had to serve him 24 hr notice to
inspect his suite. Well it stunk bad, he was breeding Pit Bulls, the
carpet reeked, the balcony had feces and urine an inch deep. I gave him an
eviction notice.
He said to me "This is going to cost you" Got it before the Tenancy agent
and won the eviction (by then he hadn't paid that months rent. December
and getting close to Christmas. he wouldn't move out. Next was getting a
Bailiff to take ti from there. They first told me they couldn't do any
eveictions until after the holidays. When they did - they went in - 2nd
floor suite - and moved this guys stuff to the curb. The guy had a 3 ton
truck and smiled at me with a certain finger
as he and a buddy of his loaded the stuff into the truck. I lost December
rent, January rent, $3000 to Bailiff and 11,500 renovations - had to
replace some of the ply subfloor due to urine and crap.
Dwayne Jacobson
77 Kingsley
White Rock


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to manage
> for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The
> problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income worth it.
>
> I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good idea to
> get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually paying
> the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233675 is a reply to message #233674] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ronald Pottol is currently offline  Ronald Pottol   United States
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A friend was an apartment manager. His perspective was that as he didn't
get paid on commission, he would rather leave a unit open an extra month,
and get a tenant he would be happy with, that fill it with the first warm
body who showed up. He did that with the first few open places, and learned
better. He rented to me anyways ;-)

Ron
who still misses that unit


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM, dwayne jacobson
<dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>wrote:

> I have been a landlord for 20 years with approx 700 resident tenants. The
> laws in BC are stacked against the landlord.
> Took over an apartment building and first time in noticed an electrical
> cord running across the hall from one suite to another.
> Asked the one tenant what's up with the cord. "No Hydro so borrowing power
> from friend" at the door greeting me besides this
> rough looking dude were 2 pit bull dogs. I wnet to the other suite -
> following the cord. The guy comes to the door cracks it open a little
> in order to keep his Pit bull inside. I said this was dangerous. I called
> Hydro and told that they would not connect power to the suite as long
> as Mr. X was a tenant. (must have ripped Hydro off prior) So I told him
> he had to vacate which he did without any further dealings except
> there was a fair amount of slean-up required plus new carpet and paint
> before re-renting. Now the other guy - I had to serve him 24 hr notice to
> inspect his suite. Well it stunk bad, he was breeding Pit Bulls, the
> carpet reeked, the balcony had feces and urine an inch deep. I gave him an
> eviction notice.
> He said to me "This is going to cost you" Got it before the Tenancy agent
> and won the eviction (by then he hadn't paid that months rent. December
> and getting close to Christmas. he wouldn't move out. Next was getting a
> Bailiff to take ti from there. They first told me they couldn't do any
> eveictions until after the holidays. When they did - they went in - 2nd
> floor suite - and moved this guys stuff to the curb. The guy had a 3 ton
> truck and smiled at me with a certain finger
> as he and a buddy of his loaded the stuff into the truck. I lost December
> rent, January rent, $3000 to Bailiff and 11,500 renovations - had to
> replace some of the ply subfloor due to urine and crap.
> Dwayne Jacobson
> 77 Kingsley
> White Rock
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to manage
> > for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The
> > problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income worth
> it.
> >
> > I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good idea
> to
> > get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually paying
> > the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!
> > --
> > George Rudawsky
> > Chicago, IL
> > 75 Palm Beach
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>
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> Dwayne Jacobson
> White Rock BC
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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233676 is a reply to message #233674] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Leased to Niece, who also worked for my flower shop. When she finally moved
out, had to do some repairs. Took a year. Materials alone cost over
$25,000.00. Paid subs out of pocket. Floor coverings, all dry wall,
windows, doors, landscaping. Finished work just in time to enter property
for sale in the middle of a housing bust. Managed to short sale it to avoid
any further loss. At least 50 k loss. Moral: never rent to relatives. Had
to wind up firing her from the shop. Still ostracized from that part of the
family. Costs in human terms, immeasurable. No more rentals for me.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or.
78 Gmc Royale 403
On Dec 21, 2013 8:40 PM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have been a landlord for 20 years with approx 700 resident tenants. The
> laws in BC are stacked against the landlord.
> Took over an apartment building and first time in noticed an electrical
> cord running across the hall from one suite to another.
> Asked the one tenant what's up with the cord. "No Hydro so borrowing power
> from friend" at the door greeting me besides this
> rough looking dude were 2 pit bull dogs. I wnet to the other suite -
> following the cord. The guy comes to the door cracks it open a little
> in order to keep his Pit bull inside. I said this was dangerous. I called
> Hydro and told that they would not connect power to the suite as long
> as Mr. X was a tenant. (must have ripped Hydro off prior) So I told him
> he had to vacate which he did without any further dealings except
> there was a fair amount of slean-up required plus new carpet and paint
> before re-renting. Now the other guy - I had to serve him 24 hr notice to
> inspect his suite. Well it stunk bad, he was breeding Pit Bulls, the
> carpet reeked, the balcony had feces and urine an inch deep. I gave him an
> eviction notice.
> He said to me "This is going to cost you" Got it before the Tenancy agent
> and won the eviction (by then he hadn't paid that months rent. December
> and getting close to Christmas. he wouldn't move out. Next was getting a
> Bailiff to take ti from there. They first told me they couldn't do any
> eveictions until after the holidays. When they did - they went in - 2nd
> floor suite - and moved this guys stuff to the curb. The guy had a 3 ton
> truck and smiled at me with a certain finger
> as he and a buddy of his loaded the stuff into the truck. I lost December
> rent, January rent, $3000 to Bailiff and 11,500 renovations - had to
> replace some of the ply subfloor due to urine and crap.
> Dwayne Jacobson
> 77 Kingsley
> White Rock
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to manage
> > for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The
> > problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income worth
> it.
> >
> > I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good idea
> to
> > get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually paying
> > the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!
> > --
> > George Rudawsky
> > Chicago, IL
> > 75 Palm Beach
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dwayne Jacobson
> White Rock BC
> Cell: 604-644-8090
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Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233684 is a reply to message #233660] Sun, 22 December 2013 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joe Weir is currently offline  Joe Weir   United States
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gbarrow wrote on Sat, 21 December 2013 19:00

I wished for an early court date to get a deadbeat tenant out of a property.
Got the notice a week ago that trial date is 8:30 a.m. Dec. 24, Christmas Eve.
...Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to all.




You are not a real landlord until you have to throw someone out on Christmas eve.





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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233688 is a reply to message #233676] Sun, 22 December 2013 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Don't ever LOAN to relatives, either! Sure fire way to get major misery!



A friend pretty much solved the problem by requiring a credit check on any prospective renter and that person had to PAY for his/her own credit check! The deadbeats know that they won't pass and just look for a different easy mark.



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> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:57:50 -0800
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for.
>
> Leased to Niece, who also worked for my flower shop. When she finally moved
> out, had to do some repairs. Took a year. Materials alone cost over
> $25,000.00. Paid subs out of pocket. Floor coverings, all dry wall,
> windows, doors, landscaping. Finished work just in time to enter property
> for sale in the middle of a housing bust. Managed to short sale it to avoid
> any further loss. At least 50 k loss. Moral: never rent to relatives. Had
> to wind up firing her from the shop. Still ostracized from that part of the
> family. Costs in human terms, immeasurable. No more rentals for me.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or.
> 78 Gmc Royale 403
> On Dec 21, 2013 8:40 PM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have been a landlord for 20 years with approx 700 resident tenants. The
> > laws in BC are stacked against the landlord.
> > Took over an apartment building and first time in noticed an electrical
> > cord running across the hall from one suite to another.
> > Asked the one tenant what's up with the cord. "No Hydro so borrowing power
> > from friend" at the door greeting me besides this
> > rough looking dude were 2 pit bull dogs. I wnet to the other suite -
> > following the cord. The guy comes to the door cracks it open a little
> > in order to keep his Pit bull inside. I said this was dangerous. I called
> > Hydro and told that they would not connect power to the suite as long
> > as Mr. X was a tenant. (must have ripped Hydro off prior) So I told him
> > he had to vacate which he did without any further dealings except
> > there was a fair amount of slean-up required plus new carpet and paint
> > before re-renting. Now the other guy - I had to serve him 24 hr notice to
> > inspect his suite. Well it stunk bad, he was breeding Pit Bulls, the
> > carpet reeked, the balcony had feces and urine an inch deep. I gave him an
> > eviction notice.
> > He said to me "This is going to cost you" Got it before the Tenancy agent
> > and won the eviction (by then he hadn't paid that months rent. December
> > and getting close to Christmas. he wouldn't move out. Next was getting a
> > Bailiff to take ti from there. They first told me they couldn't do any
> > eveictions until after the holidays. When they did - they went in - 2nd
> > floor suite - and moved this guys stuff to the curb. The guy had a 3 ton
> > truck and smiled at me with a certain finger
> > as he and a buddy of his loaded the stuff into the truck. I lost December
> > rent, January rent, $3000 to Bailiff and 11,500 renovations - had to
> > replace some of the ply subfloor due to urine and crap.
> > Dwayne Jacobson
> > 77 Kingsley
> > White Rock
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to manage
> > > for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The
> > > problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income worth
> > it.
> > >
> > > I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good idea
> > to
> > > get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually paying
> > > the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!
> > > --
> > > George Rudawsky
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 75 Palm Beach
> >
> > --
> > Dwayne Jacobson
> > White Rock BC
> > Cell: 604-644-8090


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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233689 is a reply to message #233688] Sun, 22 December 2013 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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The rental market in some areas of Colorado is at a premium. Some land
lords will require prospective tenants to pay for credit check as well as a
background check of which the tenant has to pay $75 to $100 upfront to the
land lord. It doesn't cost the land lord anywhere near that to get the
information and say if they had 10 applicants they can make a little bit on
side.


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:25 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Don't ever LOAN to relatives, either! Sure fire way to get major misery!
>
>
>
> A friend pretty much solved the problem by requiring a credit check on any
> prospective renter and that person had to PAY for his/her own credit check!
> The deadbeats know that they won't pass and just look for a different easy
> mark.
>
>
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:57:50 -0800
> > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for.
> >
> > Leased to Niece, who also worked for my flower shop. When she finally
> moved
> > out, had to do some repairs. Took a year. Materials alone cost over
> > $25,000.00. Paid subs out of pocket. Floor coverings, all dry wall,
> > windows, doors, landscaping. Finished work just in time to enter property
> > for sale in the middle of a housing bust. Managed to short sale it to
> avoid
> > any further loss. At least 50 k loss. Moral: never rent to relatives. Had
> > to wind up firing her from the shop. Still ostracized from that part of
> the
> > family. Costs in human terms, immeasurable. No more rentals for me.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or.
> > 78 Gmc Royale 403
> > On Dec 21, 2013 8:40 PM, "dwayne jacobson" <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have been a landlord for 20 years with approx 700 resident tenants.
> The
> > > laws in BC are stacked against the landlord.
> > > Took over an apartment building and first time in noticed an electrical
> > > cord running across the hall from one suite to another.
> > > Asked the one tenant what's up with the cord. "No Hydro so borrowing
> power
> > > from friend" at the door greeting me besides this
> > > rough looking dude were 2 pit bull dogs. I wnet to the other suite -
> > > following the cord. The guy comes to the door cracks it open a little
> > > in order to keep his Pit bull inside. I said this was dangerous. I
> called
> > > Hydro and told that they would not connect power to the suite as long
> > > as Mr. X was a tenant. (must have ripped Hydro off prior) So I told him
> > > he had to vacate which he did without any further dealings except
> > > there was a fair amount of slean-up required plus new carpet and paint
> > > before re-renting. Now the other guy - I had to serve him 24 hr notice
> to
> > > inspect his suite. Well it stunk bad, he was breeding Pit Bulls, the
> > > carpet reeked, the balcony had feces and urine an inch deep. I gave
> him an
> > > eviction notice.
> > > He said to me "This is going to cost you" Got it before the Tenancy
> agent
> > > and won the eviction (by then he hadn't paid that months rent. December
> > > and getting close to Christmas. he wouldn't move out. Next was getting
> a
> > > Bailiff to take ti from there. They first told me they couldn't do any
> > > eveictions until after the holidays. When they did - they went in - 2nd
> > > floor suite - and moved this guys stuff to the curb. The guy had a 3
> ton
> > > truck and smiled at me with a certain finger
> > > as he and a buddy of his loaded the stuff into the truck. I lost
> December
> > > rent, January rent, $3000 to Bailiff and 11,500 renovations - had to
> > > replace some of the ply subfloor due to urine and crap.
> > > Dwayne Jacobson
> > > 77 Kingsley
> > > White Rock
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My father had a six flat many years ago that I ended up having to
> manage
> > > > for him, and it really dissuaded me of ever having tenants again. The
> > > > problems involved with many of them simply did not make the income
> worth
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > I'd also agree that paying a management company is probably a good
> idea
> > > to
> > > > get yourself out of the loop, but I do see the beauty of actually
> paying
> > > > the tenant to leave. As you said, probably cheaper in the long run!
> > > > --
> > > > George Rudawsky
> > > > Chicago, IL
> > > > 75 Palm Beach
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dwayne Jacobson
> > > White Rock BC
> > > Cell: 604-644-8090
>
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Re: Watch what you wish for. [message #233694 is a reply to message #233660] Sun, 22 December 2013 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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I'm a US citizen who moved to Ontario to marry and live with my Canadian wife. Marie and I are blessed to of had a second chance to buy the farm in 2010.

Since then we have been carrying 2 properties.

I can not believe what the courts in Canada allow the renters to get away with. The person with most to lose is the one who owns, has purchased/invested in the property. Yet like others have stated above - it is the renter who gets the better part of the renting deal.

That is why we have yet to rent our first house. We do not just want bodies in there and collect money. ggg (The courty makes our risk is too high.)

So I live in one and Marie lives in the other - until we get our asking price or find the right renter(s).
I come to the fram to visit and stay from time to time.

EDIT: Another big difference from USA and here.
In the USA, or at least a good part of it, one can ask for; first, last and even deposit and extra for pets.

Here in our area of Canada one can asked for first month and deposit only - but never for last month.









Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233696 is a reply to message #233694] Sun, 22 December 2013 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If a guy can't afford to buy a house, you don't want him renting from you !

I have also been in and OUT of the Landlord business. I rebuilt and sold
the property. Court ruled in my favor, nothing to seize..and Pierre DeYoung
is still a liar and a thief, now "renting" (lol) from his father in law!

Mike in NS


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I'm a US citizen who moved to Ontario to marry and live with my Canadian
> wife. Marie and I are blessed to of had a second chance to buy the farm in
> 2010.
>
> Since then we have been carrying 2 properties.
>
> I can not believe what the courts in Canada allow the renters to get away
> with. The person with most to lose is the one who owns, has
> purchased/invested in the property. Yet like others have stated above - it
> is the renter who gets the better part of the renting deal.
>
> That is why we have yet to rent our first house. We do not just want
> bodies in there and collect money. ggg (The courty makes our risk is too
> high.)
>
> So I live in one and Marie lives in the other - until we get our asking
> price or find the right renter(s).
> I come to the fram to visit and stay from time to time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the
> bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up
> front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it -
> let us know.
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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233697 is a reply to message #233696] Sun, 22 December 2013 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am lead to believe you can give a tenant notice to vacate if you are going to do a renovation.

Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233698 is a reply to message #233697] Sun, 22 December 2013 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ronald Pottol is currently offline  Ronald Pottol   United States
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All of this depends on jurisdiction, aside from the fun of trading horror
stories (like property management firms who ignored my repeated reports of
a water leak until my bathroom wall was falling off, or the landlord who
ignored my report of water flowing across my kitchen floor in the rain,
when we moved, we found mushrooms growing in the carpet), this can vary
city to city, let alone by state or country.

Some landlords have earned these laws, like my uncle who 30 years ago was
charging $25 per nail hole in walls, regardless of how many (ok, perhaps
you need to repaint, but he was just deliberately screwing people).

Were I a landlord, I think I'd hand tenants a copy of Nolo Press's Tenants
Rights Handbook. Half of the whining I've seen about landlords was stuff
they were under no obligation to fix.



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>
> I am lead to believe you can give a tenant notice to vacate if you are
> going to do a renovation.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233707 is a reply to message #233688] Sun, 22 December 2013 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

Watch Judge Judy for a week or so and you'll learn LOTS of stuff you shouldn't do for friends and relatives.

Oi Veh!

Regards,
Rob M.
 
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Don't ever LOAN to relatives, either! Sure fire way to get major misery!

A friend pretty much solved the problem by requiring a credit check on any prospective renter and that person had to PAY for his/her
own credit check! The deadbeats know that they won't pass and just look for a different easy mark.

~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~

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Re: [GMCnet] Watch what you wish for. [message #233708 is a reply to message #233694] Sun, 22 December 2013 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

The home Helen and I live in I purchased in 1981. It was a construction zone for the seven years I lived in it as I gutted,
extended, and renovated it with a view to retire here (government provided health care THAT WORKS!).

I had a special mill run of 6" wide brush box floor boards made, it was beautiful! The very first tenant had a chair with a missing
wheel and it chewed into the floor. When he moved he drug it across the floor making a gouge that was six feet long. My real estate
agent took him to the Tenancy Tribunal so I could collect the $900 it cost me to have the floors refinished. The judge noted that he
did the damage without malice and awarded me $40!

Before the next tenant moved in I had the floor covered with cheap Berber carpet. The tenants that moved in complained that one of
the reasons they rented the place was because they loved the beautiful wood floors. I sent a note to the agent stating that if they
wanted the wood floor I would have the carpet removed if they would provide an extra deposit of $1000 strictly to have the floor
refinished if they damaged it at all. Never got a reply.

On the other side of the coin the lease for my house in Hong Kong was 36 pages long (one side - double spaced) of the 36 pages 34
were responsibilities of the tenant, two of the landlord!

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Tony

I'm a US citizen who moved to Ontario to marry and live with my Canadian wife. Marie and I are blessed to of had a second chance to
buy the farm in 2010.

Since then we have been carrying 2 properties.

I can not believe what the courts in Canada allow the renters to get away with. The person with most to lose is the one who owns,
has purchased/invested in the property. Yet like others have stated above - it is the renter who gets the better part of the renting
deal.

That is why we have yet to rent our first house. We do not just want bodies in there and collect money. ggg (The courty makes our
risk is too high.)

So I live in one and Marie lives in the other - until we get our asking price or find the right renter(s).
I come to the fram to visit and stay from time to time.

Tony

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Gene, do you need me to pick you up, and do you need to use my truck???, Let me know

Miguel

1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.

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