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Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 08:57 Go to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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I was talking to Matt, in MI, the other night and he was wonder:
Do you think this boat and trailer would fit in the back of a GMC – once the GMC was gutting?

How wide and tall is the back opening on the GMC MH - once you remove the rear panel?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/Wayne_100_Side_View.jpg
Here is the Wayne 100 boat I was blessed to find and purchase 2 years ago.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/Wayne_100_Side_View.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/Wayne_100_View_of_Fan_for_Cooling_Engine.jpg
Here is a close up of the Corvair engine mounted in the boat, standing up on end.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/Wayne_100_View_of_Fan_for_Cooling_Engine.jpg

If you like to read more about the Wayne 100 boat; here is a nice article about it.
http://www.corvair.org/chapters/southcoast/news/CorvairBoat.pdf

BTW - I'm in awe of people who come up with an idea and see it through to completion. People like Dave Peterson who designed and made the Ultra Van, Tucker with the Tucker car, the Vixen RV which I have worked on for a customer and Wayne with his Wayne 100 boat and many others like them. So cool!!!

We own a couple Ultravans and a Wayne 100 for our museum plans.
However, I could never afford a Tucker. However, I was blessed to see my first Tucker, in July 2013, at The Gilmore Museum near Kalamazoo MI. If you have not already visited The Gilmore and all it has; you must do so if you are going through Kalamazoo MI. You must spend a day at The Gilmore.

Corsa Corvair held their 2013 Convention in Kalamazoo and I was able to go to my first Corvair Convention and see the Gilmore during the same trip.

Here is a link to the Gilmore for those who have not heard about it. A must see! Plan a trip with a one day stop for the museum.
I plan to go back to the Gilmore again when I stop by to visit a high school friend of mine who lives in Olivet, MI.
http://www.gilmorecarmuseum.org/


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233604 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Keep in mind that one of GMCs that I'm looking at purchasing starts and I should be able to get in on the road for a oneway trip back east/home. But it is a parts coach. It would be easy to gut it before I head back east with it.

BTW - I found an email from the PO of the Wayne 100 that had the measurements.

"The length from the tongue of the trailer to the rear of the trailer is 18 feet. The total width is 7 feet."

That sounds like it might be too big to fit inside a GMC...
If the GMC was wide enough and the boat/trailer would fit - I could leave the back panel off and let the stern stick out the back of the GMC.

Then I could haul the other Wayne 100 behind. Otherwise I will have to make a second trip out west to get the other boat. Very Happy




Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233605 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The trailer axel most likely won't fit. Maybe the boat off the trailer and haul the trailer on top of the other boat?

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233623 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you talking about removing the rear fiberglas back end or just the rear hatch. The hatch is a lot narrower...probably at least 2 feet narrower.

I'll go measure my parts coach. It's gutted already.

You could probably get the boat in by turning it up on one side to go through the hatch then letting it back down without the trailer.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233624 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,

I was wondering if I could do that with the trailer too.
Put the Trailer in first and then place the boat on top.
I can remover the windshield and top on the boat - so it is not as tall.

BTW - How hard would it be to remove the fiberglass back and put it back on for the trip east?






Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: [GMCnet] Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233626 is a reply to message #233624] Sat, 21 December 2013 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tony, just double stack the boats on one trailer, car hauler type tandem
axle, and tow the whole shebang with the GMC. Lot less drama.
Jim Hupy
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On Dec 21, 2013 11:20 AM, "Tony" <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Kerry,
>
> I was wondering if I could do that with the trailer too.
> Put the Trailer in first and then place the boat on top.
> I can remover the windshield and top on the boat - so it is not as tall.
>
> BTW - How hard would it be to remove the fiberglass back and put it back
> on for the trip east?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the
> bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up
> front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it -
> let us know.
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Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233628 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, the 'hatch is wider at the top around the window than the bottom below the window. The two hatch measurements are 68 & 72"

If you removed the complete fiberglass back end of the coach (at the back of the window, the measurements are 82" at the floor and 91" at the beltline (bottom of the windows) The beltline is the widest portion..

Btw, removing either the hatch or the cap are non trivial unless you plan on the sawsall approach. I tried to take the hatch off mine and the screws would not move even with heat and an impact wrench.

it can be done obviously but it's not trivial...sometimes at least.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233643 is a reply to message #233626] Sat, 21 December 2013 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sat, 21 December 2013 14:40

Tony, just double stack the boats on one trailer, car hauler type tandem
axle, and tow the whole shebang with the GMC. Lot less drama.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Dec 21, 2013 11:20 AM, "Tony" <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Kerry,
>
> I was wondering if I could do that with the trailer too.
> Put the Trailer in first and then place the boat on top.
> I can remover the windshield and top on the boat - so it is not as tall.
>
> BTW - How hard would it be to remove the fiberglass back and put it back
> on for the trip east?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the
> bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up
> front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it -
> let us know.
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Jim,
Are you willing to buy the trailer for me? Very Happy

All joking a side - it is an idea. If I can find one at the right price and I have the extra funds at the time.


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: [GMCnet] Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233645 is a reply to message #233643] Sat, 21 December 2013 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This whole thing sounds like a train wreck in the making.


> > > Kerry,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if I could do that with the trailer too.
> > > Put the Trailer in first and then place the boat on top.
> > > I can remover the windshield and top on the boat - so it is not as tall.
> > >
> > > BTW - How hard would it be to remove the fiberglass back and put it back
> > > on for the trip east?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the
> > > bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up
> > > front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it -
> > > let us know.
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> Jim,
> Are you willing to buy the trailer for me? :d
>
> All joking a side - it is an idea. If I can find one at the right price and I have the extra funds at the time.
>
> --
> Tony Ontario Canada 70 Ultravan #520 with an Olds Toronado 455 under the bed, in back. Like to have a 78 GMC, twin beds in back, one couch up front. If you have one that is on the road & you're willing to sell it - let us know.
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Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233653 is a reply to message #233587] Sat, 21 December 2013 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great article. And from my favorite magazine, Hot Rod.

Don't hide the boat in the GMC. Tow it behind so people can see!

Very impressive that it can deep start 3 adult water skiers. I would like to find a late 60's Bell Boy boat to tow behind the GMC.


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Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233657 is a reply to message #233653] Sat, 21 December 2013 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve Adams wrote on Sat, 21 December 2013 18:34

Great article. And from my favorite magazine, Hot Rod.

Don't hide the boat in the GMC. Tow it behind so people can see!

Very impressive that it can deep start 3 adult water skiers. I would like to find a late 60's Bell Boy boat to tow behind the GMC.



Steve,

I'm not hiding it. I have two, that I purchased 2 years ago, to get back home/east along with some Corvair sutff.

I'm even thinking about buying 2 GMCs one for each trip.
One would be for parts once I got it home and the other we would use.

I'm just batting ideas around... Plus I know nothing about GMCs...





Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Would this boat and trailer fit in the back of a GMC? [message #233678 is a reply to message #233657] Sat, 21 December 2013 23:27 Go to previous message
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Ultravan Owners wrote on Sat, 21 December 2013 16:39

Steve Adams wrote on Sat, 21 December 2013 18:34

Great article. And from my favorite magazine, Hot Rod.

Don't hide the boat in the GMC. Tow it behind so people can see!

Very impressive that it can deep start 3 adult water skiers. I would like to find a late 60's Bell Boy boat to tow behind the GMC.



Steve,

I'm not hiding it. I have two, that I purchased 2 years ago, to get back home/east along with some Corvair sutff.

I'm even thinking about buying 2 GMCs one for each trip.
One would be for parts once I got it home and the other we would use.

I'm just batting ideas around... Plus I know nothing about GMCs...




. Not likely that it could pull 3 adult water skiers up in a deep water start with single competition skiis. I had to work at getting up behind an 18 ft jet boat with a 455 olds high compression motor I weighed 180 at the time.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
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