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Michelin Tire Recall [message #233081] Sat, 14 December 2013 16:36 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Short summary:

Michelin LTX M/S tires, size LT225/75R16 115/112R LRE, manufactured from January 10, 2010, through June 23, 2012 may suffer separation.

Link is here
<a href="http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchResults?refurl=email&searchType=ID&targetCategory=R&searchCriteria.nhtsa_ids=13T012" target="_blank"></a>

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchResults?refurl=email&searchType=ID&targetCategory=R&searchCriteria.nhtsa_ids=13T012" target="_blank"

The link includer didn't work so I pasted it in.


Matt


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Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233084 is a reply to message #233081] Sat, 14 December 2013 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Wow...I was focused on the Michelins when I found that the Kelly tires were made in the USA and substantially less expensive. Made me feel better about my choice, Matt. I wasn't sure about the origin of the Michelins at the time, have you heard where the defectives were made?

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233086 is a reply to message #233084] Sat, 14 December 2013 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry,
Check for USA made Coopers at Discount Tire. Bought a set a few months ago for $97 each. Best price I've gotten in 12 years and 4 sets for the GMC.
Pep Boys in Ca also had the same tire named as their own brand for a higher price.


Gene Barrow
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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233088 is a reply to message #233084] Sat, 14 December 2013 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dmumert is currently offline  dmumert   United States
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Hi

Here is a link to the defect notice
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM447539/RCDNN-13T012-5467.pdf

The tires were made in Michelin's Nova Scotia plant, the B3 in the DOT number means Nova Scotia..

Dave Mumert
'76 Eleganza II
Alberta, CA


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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233090 is a reply to message #233088] Sat, 14 December 2013 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Oh Great !

The taxpayers get to bend over again !

Mike in NS


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Dave Mumert <dmumert@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Here is a link to the defect notice
>
> http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM447539/RCDNN-13T012-5467.pdf
>
> The tires were made in Michelin's Nova Scotia plant, the B3 in the DOT
> number means Nova Scotia..
>
> Dave Mumert
> '76 Eleganza II
> Alberta, CA
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Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233092 is a reply to message #233086] Sat, 14 December 2013 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow Gene, that $97 is a really good price! Too bad I already got the Kellys months ago...they cost me $138 each. I had free mounting and balancing though, so I still came out ahead of the price I had found for the Michelins. I could not find a better deal anywhere back when I was shopping for tires, and I had checked the local Pep Boys and online too. Shopping Pep Boys online I had to indicate my location, so maybe the availability options were different for me. The tires at the local Pep Boys were not made in the USA, and that was my main criteria, having replaced many Chinese and Korean made tires at the tire shop that went bad before they were worn out. Had 2 China made tires on the front of the GMC that had excellent tread, but one was not round...I just didn't like that even though it balanced, and they were too large anyway, so I got 2 more of the Kellys to match the rear.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
[GMCnet] Fw: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233093 is a reply to message #233090] Sat, 14 December 2013 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got that  right.


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>Oh Great !
>
>The taxpayers get to bend over again !
>
>Mike in NS
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>On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Dave Mumert <dmumert@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Here is a link to the defect notice
>>
>> http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM447539/RCDNN-13T012-5467.pdf
>>
>> The tires were made in Michelin's Nova Scotia plant, the B3 in the DOT
>> number means Nova Scotia..
>>
>> Dave Mumert
>> '76 Eleganza II
>> Alberta, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233096 is a reply to message #233093] Sat, 14 December 2013 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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I guess I don't understand how the taxpayers are getting shafted from the Michelin recall...can anybody explain? I read the whole pdf and didn't see a government subsidy in there.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233097 is a reply to message #233081] Sat, 14 December 2013 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Matt. 6 of mine are older than that. The 7th might fit that date range. Now I wonder what they will replace it with if I need one as that tire is discontinued. I don't want a mismstched set.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233112 is a reply to message #233097] Sun, 15 December 2013 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry
Michelin has been at the provincial trough here in Nova Scotia since the
day they arrived in the province around 1970.
They have grants, guaranteed loans and tax cuts on their three
facilities...and I'm only beginning. At the first hint of financial
difficulty repaying a so called 'loan', the suggestion is made that they
will have to pull up stakes and leave the province. The politicians then
start talking about the 3500 job losses, Michelin gets whatever they want
and the taxpayers pay ! It's always been that way !
This setback will cost them big bucks and they will be forced to 'borrow' a
bit from the province and perhaps suspend repayment on some existing loans
...
It's 9:00 Sunday morning...if you'd like to hear more, you'll have to show
up any day after 12:00 with bottle of Smugglers Cove. <VBG>

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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:54 PM, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com>wrote:

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> Thanks Matt. 6 of mine are older than that. The 7th might fit that date
> range. Now I wonder what they will replace it with if I need one as that
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Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #233117 is a reply to message #233081] Sun, 15 December 2013 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why the subsidies? Aren't they French? My next Tahoe tires were going to be Cooper but they are now Indian, bought by Apollo tire. Goodyear is last man standing but don't like their GMC possibiliteis in our size. Who knows what happened to Remmington? PO put Wide Brutes on my Tahoe. Load range D work great for towing at like 45 psi to stop waddle and heat buildup. Also tough and good with road debris defense. No sense putting bling low profile tires on a truck chassis. All that's good for is posing for pictures, flats, and bent wheels.

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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233122 is a reply to message #233117] Sun, 15 December 2013 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our province is scared of losing a job and to get jobs, they give even more
away. A job is like getting a vote the Politicians think..
The French reference is sort of irrelevant. It they were Chinese or
American it would be the same old story...get a job; get a vote.

It's Sunday morning when I do my best preaching...<VBG>

Mike in NS


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com>wrote:

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>
> Why the subsidies? Aren't they French? My next Tahoe tires were going to
> be Cooper but they are now Indian, bought by Apollo tire. Goodyear is last
> man standing but don't like their GMC possibiliteis in our size. Who knows
> what happened to Remmington? PO put Wide Brutes on my Tahoe. Load range D
> work great for towing at like 45 psi to stop waddle and heat buildup. Also
> tough and good with road debris defense. No sense putting bling low profile
> tires on a truck chassis. All that's good for is posing for pictures,
> flats, and bent wheels.
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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233144 is a reply to message #233117] Sun, 15 December 2013 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

HUH?

"Load range D work great for towing at like 45 psi to stop waddle and heat buildup."

I was really happy when I saw that The Blue Streak had NEW tires on it before I bought it UNTIL after driving it home from
countryside New South Wales. I was all over the road! When I got it back to my workshop and checked them I discovered they were "P"
rated tires inflated to 45 psi.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Why the subsidies? Aren't they French? My next Tahoe tires were going to be Cooper but they are now Indian, bought by Apollo tire.
Goodyear is last man standing but don't like their GMC possibiliteis in our size. Who knows what happened to Remmington? PO put
Wide Brutes on my Tahoe. Load range D work great for towing at like 45 psi to stop waddle and heat buildup. Also tough and good with
road debris defense. No sense putting bling low profile tires on a truck chassis. All that's good for is posing for pictures, flats,
and bent wheels.
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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #233155 is a reply to message #233144] Sun, 15 December 2013 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have seen Goodyear tires that were made in China. I do not have faith in that brand anymore.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #237283 is a reply to message #233081] Fri, 24 January 2014 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Matt for your post here. I got four new Michelin tires today due to the recall.

Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #237287 is a reply to message #237283] Fri, 24 January 2014 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like Michelin has been taking lessons from Boeing here in Washington.

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #237290 is a reply to message #233081] Fri, 24 January 2014 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for sharing the information on the recall.

1999 Ford turck with second set of tires since truck was new and the tires came from a Ford dealer who installed them.
Truck had 69,000 miles when my step-father passed way and I got the truck.

Wish I could recall who these tires were made by.
Good shape, very low miles them, no cracks or side wall damage and it blew out on me at 70mph.


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6508/medium/Right_Rear_Tire_Blow-out.JPG
To see all the tire pictures.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p52590-right-rear-tire-blow-o.html


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Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #237295 is a reply to message #237290] Fri, 24 January 2014 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tony,

I found the following quote on a search engine.

"About the only thing I can tell you about Mesa tires is they are a brand of Cooper Tire, not Goodyear."

Having been to China 11 times, I can say for sure that some of their tires are high quality. "Double Coin" brand has a good reputation in China. Roads are not littered with vehicles with flats in China. Something is going all right with some of their tires. Maybe they are dumping all their poor quality goods into the States. Like iPhone 5. Watching the Super Bowl on my LG TV in a week or so. I so well recall that one of the enduring truths in the 1950s was the low quality of Japanese toys "made of tin." The Chinese think very highly of our Buick automobiles. There are a ton of them over there. Ford is starting to make inroads with the Focus. VW has a head start, but is faltering, it seems. Mercedes Benz and Volvo have quite a following among the non government wealthy. I will try to find a picture of a single cylinder, belt drive FWD farm cart. Maybe we could fit it into a GMC?

Best,

Carey


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Re: [GMCnet] Michelin Tire Recall [message #237318 is a reply to message #237295] Fri, 24 January 2014 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I followed KenB's example and ordered Kumho Road Vantage AT tires for Double Trouble. Kumho is a Korean company with a good rep. I
was surprised and disappointed when they arrived and I noticed that they were made in China. However, so far so good except with the
spare I purchased at a later date from a different source. From Houston it made it to just past the Louisiana border when it
developed tread separation.

As far as the quality of goods out of China goes in my opinion if the buyer has people that monitor the quality and don't accept
crap the Chinese will make a good product. As I have mentioned before the vertical stabilizer for the Boeing 737 is made at a
factory in Xian and Boeing has a team of people there keeping an eye on what the Chinese do.

During my eight year posting to Hong Kong I attended the Guangzhou Trade fair regularly and noted that little by little the quality
of the products on display improved. The Chinese figger'd out that they could get more money for better made products.

For those who complain that nothing's made in the first world anymore shouldn't blame the Chinese for stealing jobs or the
manufacturers for sending the work overseas it's because people are not willing to pay the cost to have goods made in their own
countries unfortunately.

As Pogo said; "we have met the enemy and he is us!"

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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From: Carey Bryan

Tony,

I found the following quote on a search engine.

"About the only thing I can tell you about Mesa tires is they are a brand of Cooper Tire, not Goodyear."

Having been to China 11 times, I can say for sure that some of their tires are high quality. "Double Coin" brand has a good
reputation in China. Roads are not littered with vehicles with flats in China. Something is going all right with some of their
tires. Maybe they are dumping all their poor quality goods into the States. Like iPhone 5. Watching the Super Bowl on my LG TV in
a week or so. I so well recall that one of the enduring truths in the 1950s was the low quality of Japanese toys "made of tin." The
Chinese think very highly of our Buick automobiles. There are a ton of them over there. Ford is starting to make inroads with the
Focus. VW has a head start, but is faltering, it seems. Mercedes Benz and Volvo have quite a following among the non government
wealthy. I will try to find a picture of a single cylinder, belt drive FWD farm cart. Maybe we could fit it into a GMC?

Best,

Carey

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Re: Michelin Tire Recall [message #237323 is a reply to message #237290] Fri, 24 January 2014 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Ultravan Owners wrote on Fri, 24 January 2014 12:42

Thank you for sharing the information on the recall.

1999 Ford turck with second set of tires since truck was new and the tires came from a Ford dealer who installed them.
Truck had 69,000 miles when my step-father passed way and I got the truck.

Wish I could recall who these tires were made by.
Good shape, very low miles them, no cracks or side wall damage and it blew out on me at 70mph.


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6508/medium/Right_Rear_Tire_Blow-out.JPG
To see all the tire pictures.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p52590-right-rear-tire-blow-o.html

I'm very familiar with the recall, in fact we were instrumental in the process. Your pictures do no reflect what was happening in this case. Looking closely at the pictures it appears that you had a road hazard, not a tire defect.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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