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Nice little heater [message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 12:48 Go to next message
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This is a great little heater. It kept the Twinkie II nice and warm when with temperatures in the teens and twenties. I liked it so much I bought a second to keep in the rear bath for those cold mornings. About $50 and free shipping from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Broan-6201-Heat-Portable-Heater/dp/B00B1SNMYG/ref=pd_sim_auto_1

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Re: Nice little heater [message #233011 is a reply to message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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uh ok, but it's electric, how can it put out more heat than any other 1500 watt heater??


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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233012 is a reply to message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find a cheaper alternative direct from Amazon at $46.54! I ordered two with free shipping.

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> This is a great little heater. It kept the Twinkie II nice and warm when with temperatures in the teens and twenties. I liked it so much I bought a second to keep in the rear bath for those cold mornings. About $50 and free shipping from Amazon.
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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233013 is a reply to message #233012] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Otterwan   United States
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k2gkk wrote on Fri, 13 December 2013 11:12

If you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find a cheaper alternative direct from Amazon at $46.54! I ordered two with free shipping.

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I did order mine from Amazon with free shipping. I'm not sure why that doesn't show as an additional option on the page. I changed the link in my original post to the Amazon one.


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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233014 is a reply to message #233011] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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I have no answer for that question, but some heaters SEEM to be more efficient.

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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233015 is a reply to message #233014] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like it mainly because of the size. It stores easily in the coach.

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Re: Nice little heater [message #233016 is a reply to message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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metal jacket, too. I'm not going to buy ANY heater with a plastic case. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233017 is a reply to message #233016] Fri, 13 December 2013 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A couple of comments come to mind. In Canada no electric heater of
120volts is allowed to be more that 1500watts...so I've always thought they
were all the same in power costs and in heat supplied. A 240volt heater is
almost unlimited...I think <g>

Mr Jordan brings up another point that I used to think , but recently
changed when I realized my car has most of its engine parts made out of
plastic..

So does this mean I have to much time on my hands for thinking odd ball
things?? <g>

Mike in NS


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Re: Nice little heater [message #233018 is a reply to message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>plastic

To use plastic, these heaters seem to rely more on clixons, thermal fuses, and anti-tipping sensors than common sense. I bought one of these but it'll be salted away for use as a last resort.

For aux heat in the Royale, I have one old Intertherm, liquid-filled, 120v kickspace heater that I hope to work in under one of the rear twins. These are no longer made but are the safest, lowest surface temp heaters out there. We used to demo them by stuffing them with kleenex. (You can still get the baseboard, it's marketed as Softheat., but I can't find a source for the liquid filled kickspace units.)


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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233020 is a reply to message #233012] Fri, 13 December 2013 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac,

Clear demonstration that you (like Helen) are of Scottish decent! ;-)

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If you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find a cheaper alternative direct from Amazon at $46.54! I ordered two with free
shipping.

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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233030 is a reply to message #233020] Fri, 13 December 2013 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dad was 100% Scottish. Mom was 50% Swedish (her dad) and 25% Scottish and English (her mom, a very distant relative of British royal family).
I guess that puts me at 5/8 or 62.5%. Makes me 125 proof, I guess!

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> Mac,
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> Clear demonstration that you (like Helen) are of Scottish decent! ;-)
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> If you scroll down a bit on that page you'll find a cheaper alternative direct from Amazon at $46.54! I ordered two with free
> shipping.
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Re: Nice little heater [message #233047 is a reply to message #233009] Fri, 13 December 2013 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the small size of the one you got and the metal case. I've been using the Duraflame electric fireplace/woodstove in our coach to ward off the chill. Put it under the dinette table and it's out of the way and the heat doesn't go straight up to the ceiling. The body of it is plastic, but that part doesn't get hot at all. I got a second one that is similar from Tru Value yesterday that only $59 and the heater and fan are enclosed in metal,and it also has a high and low heat setting, but doesn't have a thermostat like the Duraflame. I think the Duraflame heater is enclosed in a metal housing too. The Duraflame one was $69 last year at Northern Tool. Both of them are light enough to not accost the RV in gas mileage. The larger Duraflame model is all metal and really weighs a lot...and costs twice as much. The Duraflame model is at Roses or Maxway right now for $75. Both of these cost more, but they're pretty and add to the decor.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233057 is a reply to message #233047] Sat, 14 December 2013 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is my design that has been used in boats, rv, rooms. Works great. Only works with 110 volt although.

this heater:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/271271949774

with this fan behind it:

http://www.fantasticvent.com/products/endless_breeze/endless_breeze.html

these two together will solve with great safe heat. The fan is also great for comprehensive fan for cooling

and 12 volt as well as 110 volt. The heater with the fan blowing through the fins works great for a rather large area with the fan

most people do not use the fan design and lose the real working heater effect that the fan produces.

Adding hot water storage to it:

http://www.amazon.com/Excelsteel-Quart-Stainless-Stockpot-Encapsulated/dp/B0030T1KR0/ref=pd_sim_hg_4


If you really want to put some real punch into it, put a 16 Quart stainless steelpot on top and attach with bungee cords balanced on

top of the finned heater, this is only for stopped and not moving of course. This adds a great deal of hot water in the pot on top

of the finned heater and the fan blowing a few inches from the fins through the fins makes for a very cheap and hot design.

This design will heat almost any rv for a really great safe design and the warm water is always good to dip into for

cleaning dishes etc. and then replace. It also makes for the air not being so dry in the rv. It is the most comfortable i have found for

a stopped boat or rv, or small living area. a metal top would be better than glass but this is a picture i found.

the heater is about 39 dollars, the pot is about $39 dollars, the fan has gone up but is really good for heat or cooling and is both 12

and 110 volts that is great for the rv, it is about $70 but i have seen it for around $59. I like this design. the finned heater and fan

would fit under the table, but to put the water on the top it would need to be out in the open to fit on the top. the pot can be dipped into

with a hot water bottle for the bed as well.

http://www.scotlandshop.com/p-46-cashmere-hot-water-bottle-cover-bed-socks-set.aspx?locale=en-US?
utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NA

http://www.restorationhardware.com/catalog/product/product.jsp?productId=prod190341

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_water_bottle

Using hot water bottles is NOT outdated at all. In fact many people still use them in their homes and a lot!
All you need to do is boil the kettle with just a small amount of water and pour into the hot water bottle! Eventually it goes cold so can be left in your bed without using up the elec or putting yourself in danger of stating fires.
Yes there are newer heating pads with less dangers but nothing beats a good old hot water bottle which doesn't need as much electricity!


Mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach.




On Dec 13, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Terry wrote:

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> I like the small size of the one you got and the metal case. I've been using the Duraflame electric fireplace/woodstove in our coach to ward off the chill. Put it under the dinette table and it's out of the way and the heat doesn't go straight up to the ceiling. The body of it is plastic, but that part doesn't get hot at all. I got a second one that is similar from Tru Value yesterday that only $59 and the heater and fan are enclosed in metal,and it also has a high and low heat setting, but doesn't have a thermostat like the Duraflame. I think the Duraflame heater is enclosed in a metal housing too. The Duraflame one was $69 last year at Northern Tool. Both of them are light enough to not accost the RV in gas mileage. The larger Duraflame model is all metal and really weighs a lot...and costs twice as much. The Duraflame model is at Roses or Maxway right now for $75. Both of these cost more, but they're pretty and add to the decor.
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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233058 is a reply to message #233057] Sat, 14 December 2013 00:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I picked up the oil filled radiator at Tractor Supply last week for $25. Got it in the back next to the water tank. Cord just reaches the ceiling outlet. Keeps the RV warm enough in this area (Tidewater) on the low setting and uses less power than the electric fireplace/woodstove. The low setting is 400 watts, the next is 900, and both together will suck up 1300. And there are no moving parts to wear out or stop functioning when I'm not around. I've had one in the boat for years down in the bilge next to the heat exchanger that is full of seawater even though the boat is on a trailer. I also use one in the basement with the fan blowing through it to dry the floor when we get too much rain and it manages to get inside. Very effective and very safe.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233059 is a reply to message #233058] Sat, 14 December 2013 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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right the key to real integrity with it, is to use the fan on low all the time and it heats almost anything in time. mick ca. 77pb.

i am not sure but i think it works on its side which could allow the water under the table if kept off the ground a few inches.

I have not tried this with the wheels taken off. But have never gotten around to it. M.

You find them in ard sales etc. for $10 because no one ever uses a fan with them and they rely only on the

static heat flow. Big mistake, a fan that is slow will increase the use 1000%. Any fan will work but i love the endless breeze

on low it is not loud and works off 12 volt dash and can be used for cooling up at the steering wheel area of the gmc while

driving and it is strong.

On Dec 13, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Terry wrote:

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> I picked up the oil filled radiator at Tractor Supply last week for $25. Got it in the back next to the water tank. Cord just reaches the ceiling outlet. Keeps the RV warm enough in this area (Tidewater) on the low setting and uses less power than the electric fireplace/woodstove. The low setting is 400 watts, the next is 900, and both together will suck up 1300. And there are no moving parts to wear out or stop functioning when I'm not around. I've had one in the boat for years down in the bilge next to the heat exchanger that is full of seawater even though the boat is on a trailer. I also use one in the basement with the fan blowing through it to dry the floor when we get too much rain and it manages to get inside. Very effective and very safe.
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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233076 is a reply to message #233059] Sat, 14 December 2013 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"i am not sure but i think it works on its side which could allow the water under the table if kept off the ground a few inches."

HaHaHaHaHa Laughing You're funny Mickey! I was referring to the basement in the house...my GMC doesn't have a basement, but I've seen pics of some that do. I do have a band bus, a Silver Eagle, that does have those basement compartments, and I would really like to sell it if you know of anyone looking for a project bus real cheap.

I don't know if the heating element in that radiator is submerged if it's on it side, there's no easy way to check the oil level in those things.


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Re: Nice little heater [message #233502 is a reply to message #233009] Thu, 19 December 2013 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>i am not sure but i think it works on its side

That comment and your design put me on a quest, Mickey. I found a 700w mini oil-filled radiator that does not have an anti-tipping switch and fires up just fine when placed horizontally. I've paired that with a 120v, variable speed squirrelcage blower unit. And if someone wants a digital thermostat, there's a plug-in for that as well.

heater: $43.49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GDIXVI/

blower: $39.59
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LKYNYK/

tstat: $37.28
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7NYY8/

I'll play around with a heatsink cabinet of some sort (probably leftover solid surface countertop) but, as-is, this one won't scald anyone who happens to brush against it.


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Re: [GMCnet] Nice little heater [message #233507 is a reply to message #233058] Thu, 19 December 2013 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry, Beware of oil filled radiators. I bought one a few years ago to keep my truck mount pressure washer from freezing. It worked well for a about a month, then I came out one chilly morning to learn that it quit working in the middle of the night. The next thing I learned is that it costs about $500.00 dollars to repair carpet cleaning equipment that freezes. I don't know for sure how they work, but I do know without a doubt that there is something in there that can wear out and quit working.

Bob and Pam Schilling Rapid City, SD "78 Royale
Re: Nice little heater [message #233509 is a reply to message #233009] Thu, 19 December 2013 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>beware

Yeah, I wouldn't trust one for serious duty. Longevity wasn't listed as a feature anywhere in the reviews on Amazon.


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I have used these oil filled heaters for over 15 years and even bought them from yard sales and never had one go bad.

the big mistake is to not put a floor fan on low behind them or set water on top of them and they beat any heater i have ever seen for the price and use of energy. I am using one now all winter and last for my office space and with a fan on low and it on low it keeps
the room very hot, never worry about tipping it or getting burnt from it. it is always hot to the the touch, but not burning.

I have never seen on go out unless you blow a fuse with something else on the same line. it keeps me warm as toast and cool
for safety. The fan is the secret design integrity of the working success. Mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach :-)

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