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Re: [GMCnet] Plumbing question [message #232723] Mon, 09 December 2013 14:24 Go to next message
rallymaster is currently offline  rallymaster   United States
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If it's gray, it's probably Polybulylene, brand name Qest. Compatible
with PEX, but if you use primarily chlorinated water, you should switch
to PEX when you have the opportunity. Polybutylene will freeze and thaw
with relative impunity, but chlorinated water gradually disolves the PB,
and leaves pinholes which leak. Not as much problem in a coach as a
house, but that's why it's no longer used.
The conical fittings are screwed on, like pipe fittings. Crimp fittings
similar to those used with PEX were also used. Some stores still have
special crimp fittings for use when connecting to PEX. The plastic and
Shark-bite slip on fittings are compatible with copper pipe, CPVC pipe,
Qest and PEX.

My whole house has been plumbed with PB (Qest) for over 15 years and no
problems, including the water line out by the barn which freezes and
thaws on an annual basis. It's turned off, so no unseen leak would cause
a problem, but it has water in it all the time. We have a spring, so no
chlorine to eat the plumbing.

The GMC is plumbed with PB, also, but, because it sometimes gets city
water in the system, I'm replacing it with PEX as other projects require
access to the plumbing.

RonC

On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 13:46:20 -0600 David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> writes:
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>
> I thought my coach had PEX as OEM plumbing, but now I'm not sure. It
> has plastic tubing with some sort of conical compression fitting
> that appears to be glued onto the tubing. As I'm doing some
> repairs/upgrades I'm curious as to:
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> * What is the original system called
> * Is it compatible with PEX fittings
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Re: [GMCnet] Plumbing question [message #232725 is a reply to message #232723] Mon, 09 December 2013 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron, that looks like it. Apparently the cones are held on by some sort of clip, at least in this example:

http://www.mobilehomepartspro.com/product_images/plumbing/Qest_Nut_cone_ring.jpg

http://www.mobilehomepartspro.com/product_images/plumbing/Qest_Nut_cone_ring.jpg

Thanks so much for your input. I'd been searching online in vain trying to figure out what this stuff was.


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Re: [GMCnet] Plumbing question [message #232728 is a reply to message #232725] Mon, 09 December 2013 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Polybutylene got a bad rap in the 70's or early 80's. There were a lot of failures, primarily in manufactured housing I believe, and it was the cause of a class action lawsuit. It basically set back plastic plumbing in the US by 20 years.

Richard


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Re: [GMCnet] Plumbing question [message #232774 is a reply to message #232728] Mon, 09 December 2013 19:53 Go to previous message
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My daughter and husband had a house in Navarre Beach, FL that most probably was plumbed with this stuff. The maker (an oil company, if I recall) had to pay for having all of this stuff replaced.

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> Polybutylene got a bad rap in the 70's or early 80's. There were a lot of failures, primarily in manufactured housing I believe, and it was the cause of a class action lawsuit. It basically set back plastic plumbing in the US by 20 years.
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> Richard
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