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My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)

Anyone still using there stock one?


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230345 is a reply to message #230343] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was never aware that GM had a factory microwave.

There is nothing in the very complete Parts Book, nor in the Maintenance Manual, nor in the Owner's Manuals, nor in the wiring diagrams.

Emery Stora

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> My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)
>
> Anyone still using there stock one?
> --
> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire. Lynnwood WA
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230347 is a reply to message #230345] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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emerystora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 17:35

I was never aware that GM had a factory microwave.

There is nothing in the very complete Parts Book, nor in the Maintenance Manual, nor in the Owner's Manuals, nor in the wiring diagrams.

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:30 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:

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> My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)
>
> Anyone still using there stock one?
> --
> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire. Lynnwood WA
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My 78 came with a microwave that is described in the operators manual. I believe it was a Thermador. I replaced it and sold it to the late John Haper. It was built like a tank.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230348 is a reply to message #230347] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can see it here, right below the lady in the natty grey suit:

http://encarsglobe.com/photo/im/gmc-motorhome/09/



1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230349 is a reply to message #230348] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And here, "Original Microwave Oven with Browner". Ours does indeed have a broiler element in the top.

http://sirumgmc.com/Gillomen_Motorhome.html


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230350 is a reply to message #230343] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dunno if the one in my coach is stock by Norris or from a PO.  It's certainly old enough to be a '76 model, mechanical time and all.  It does have a turntable.  Actually, I don't think the spec for cabinet radiation has changed... it was incredibly low to begin with.  As long as the door and interior aren't bent or filled with burnt food you're OK.  The door channel is actually a tuned reject filter.  I'd worry a hell of a lot more about the cellphone clamped to youe ear if non-ionizing radiation bothers you.    Personally, I don't wear the bluetooth in the ear thingies for eight hours or so at a stretch..... I'll be interested in seeing (from the grave) how these people fare fifty years hence.   Folks need to understand RF propogation and power before they get exorcised over a lot of things.
 
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My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer  ;o)

Anyone still using there stock one?
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230351 is a reply to message #230347] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob, many of the Coachman upfitted Royale's had Magic Chef microwave ovens
under a 4 burner cooktop. Mine came with one, and it was D.O.A. I replaced
it with a cheapo. Could not get parts for the Magic Chef, which was really
a quality unit. It was all I could do to lift it. If the extra weight was
shielding, it had a bunch more of it than the one I replaced it with.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Nov 19, 2013 4:47 PM, "Bob de Kruyff" <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

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>
> emerystora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 17:35
> > I was never aware that GM had a factory microwave.
> >
> > There is nothing in the very complete Parts Book, nor in the Maintenance
> Manual, nor in the Owner's Manuals, nor in the wiring diagrams.
> >
> > Emery Stora
> >
> > On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:30 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more
> energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)
> > >
> > > Anyone still using there stock one?
> > > --
> > > 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire.
> Lynnwood WA
> > >
> > > &#8220;Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their
> shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and
> you have their shoes.&#8221;
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> My 78 came with a microwave that is described in the operators manual. I
> believe it was a Thermador. I replaced it and sold it to the late John
> Haper. It was built like a tank.
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230352 is a reply to message #230347] Tue, 19 November 2013 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks. I stand corrected. However it is not in the Maintenance Manual or parts book.
I have copies of the 73,75,76 nd 77 owners manuals and it isn't in those but I don't have a 1978.

emery stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:

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>
> emerystora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 17:35
>> I was never aware that GM had a factory microwave.
>>
>> There is nothing in the very complete Parts Book, nor in the Maintenance Manual, nor in the Owner's Manuals, nor in the wiring diagrams.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:30 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)
>>>
>>> Anyone still using there stock one?
>>> --
>>> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire. Lynnwood WA
>>>
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> My 78 came with a microwave that is described in the operators manual. I believe it was a Thermador. I replaced it and sold it to the late John Haper. It was built like a tank.
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230355 is a reply to message #230345] Tue, 19 November 2013 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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emerystora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 17:35

I was never aware that GM had a factory microwave.

There is nothing in the very complete Parts Book, nor in the Maintenance Manual, nor in the Owner's Manuals, nor in the wiring diagrams.

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:30 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:

>
>
> My original microwave works fine, but I'm sure newer ones are more energy efficient and less likely to give me cancer ;o)
>
> Anyone still using there stock one?
> --
> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire. Lynnwood WA
>
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Starting on page 45 of the operators manual it starts:

MICROWAVE OVEN
The optional Thermador microwave oven
operates on 120-volts AC (60 hertz) . Before
using the microwave oven be sure you read and
understand ALL of these instructions .


It does have a browner and was very powerfull. I just wanted a newer one that was easier to use. John Haper's timer crapped out so I shipped him nine. It sits in the spot that the oven normally occupies.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230356 is a reply to message #230352] Tue, 19 November 2013 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Thanks. I stand corrected. However it is not in the Maintenance Manual or parts book.
I have copies of the 73,75,76 nd 77 owners manuals and it isn't in those but I don't have a 1978.

emery stora""

These things are full of surprises and many don't seem to be well documented. I've had plenty of arguments over this one with fellow coach owners Smile


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230357 is a reply to message #230355] Tue, 19 November 2013 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our Royale has a 4 burner stove top with an oven under it. The Magic Chef microwave with browning element is to the right of the sink under the counter, right behind the driver's seat as in the photo I linked to earlier. In the Palm beach there is a 3 burner stove top with the same microwave under it, and no oven.

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230360 is a reply to message #230357] Tue, 19 November 2013 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Otterwan wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 18:06

Our Royale has a 4 burner stove top with an oven under it. The Magic Chef microwave with browning element is to the right of the sink under the counter, right behind the driver's seat as in the photo I linked to earlier. In the Palm beach there is a 3 burner stove top with the same microwave under it, and no oven.

The original appears to be a Thermador, so here's another mystery.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230365 is a reply to message #230357] Tue, 19 November 2013 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since Royales are not GM furnished I would not call your microwave a "factory original".

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:06 PM, David Orders <dao@oarsllc.com> wrote:

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>
> Our Royale has a 4 burner stove top with an oven under it. The Magic Chef microwave with browning element is to the right of the sink under the counter, right behind the driver's seat as in the photo I linked to earlier.
> --
> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II", 1978 Palm Beach with front end fire. Lynnwood WA
>
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Re: Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230377 is a reply to message #230343] Tue, 19 November 2013 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 78 Royale by Coachman has the Magic Chef Micro, still works. My preference would be to have the regular oven and get a counter top or under cabinet micro. I have used the oven in the truck camper to bake and broil and I am afraid I will miss that capability in the GMC. I have been thinking to keep my eyes open for a Magic Chef four burner with a stove as a possible replacement to my current Microwave set up.

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Re: Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230378 is a reply to message #230377] Tue, 19 November 2013 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve Adams wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 18:36

My 78 Royale by Coachman has the Magic Chef Micro, still works. My preference would be to have the regular oven and get a counter top or under cabinet micro. I have used the oven in the truck camper to bake and broil and I am afraid I will miss that capability in the GMC. I have been thinking to keep my eyes open for a Magic Chef four burner with a stove as a possible replacement to my current Microwave set up.


Lucky me then. I have all three!


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230380 is a reply to message #230378] Tue, 19 November 2013 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My '76 ex-PB has a 3-burner top with oven. I'd bet there are folks out there that have removed 3 and 4 burner stoves.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave?
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> Steve Adams wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 18:36
> > My 78 Royale by Coachman has the Magic Chef Micro, still works. My preference would be to have the regular oven and get a counter top or under cabinet micro. I have used the oven in the truck camper to bake and broil and I am afraid I will miss that capability in the GMC. I have been thinking to keep my eyes open for a Magic Chef four burner with a stove as a possible replacement to my current Microwave set up.
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> Lucky me then. I have all three!
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230381 is a reply to message #230378] Tue, 19 November 2013 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My '76 ex-PB came with a 3-burner top with oven. I'd bet there are folks out there that have removed 3 and 4 burner stoves.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:44:04 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone still using the factory microwave?
>
> Steve Adams wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 18:36
> > My 78 Royale by Coachman has the Magic Chef Micro, still works. My preference would be to have the regular oven and get a counter top or under cabinet micro. I have used the oven in the truck camper to bake and broil and I am afraid I will miss that capability in the GMC. I have been thinking to keep my eyes open for a Magic Chef four burner with a stove as a possible replacement to my current Microwave set up.
>
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> Lucky me then. I have all three!
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Re: Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230387 is a reply to message #230343] Tue, 19 November 2013 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our 78 Eleganza has the original microwave with browner. It works fine except the timer died last year.

I had an oven in my 75 Airstream trailer and might have used it twice (probably for a frozen pizza) in fifteen years so we don't really miss not having the oven.


Darryl Meyers 1978 Eleganza II El Dorado Hills, CA
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One need to know if they have the 100% GM coach or those that were farmed our .
You currebt microwave is better than one you purchase at a store.
We sell ones that are for RV use as they have more tolerance to current fluctuations, or should I say "fluck you agians".


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Re: Anyone still using the factory microwave? [message #230412 is a reply to message #230343] Wed, 20 November 2013 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Our '73 23' did not come with a microwave. (Surprised?)

The way Mary likes to cook when we travel, I can't imagine being without a real oven. There are things that a microwave won't do well. Our Sloop didn't have an oven. The new non-pressure alcohol could barely make coffee, but then, it only had enough galley to qualify for PHRF. Mary never did much cooking onboard.

At first, We traveled with the microwave cargo strapped to the dinette table. (An effective, but not elegant solution for a coach not so equipped.) Then I hung it under the galley fan for a few seasons, and finally took out the galley vent fan, put a new bottom in the cabinet and hung the microwave tight underneath.

I replaced the fan with 3ea 80mm fans salvaged from dead computer power supplies. They are quieter and move more air than the original.

Sorry, no pictures, I work alone most of the time. Unless I know ahead of time that a job is one that others will have interest in seeing, I don't think to drag the camera out to the barn.

Matt


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