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[GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230248] Tue, 19 November 2013 06:43 Go to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Netters
Darryl Myers tried to send me a PM but my profile wasn't accepting. This
is not the first time I have had a report of this and I don't know what to
do about it.

My viewing of this site is on the email list if that makes any difference.
Now, what can I do and where do I go to make the changes so PM's will be
accepted?

Thanks

Mike



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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230251 is a reply to message #230248] Tue, 19 November 2013 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

PM, implemented or not, is a feature of the forum, not applicable to us
heathen direct emailers. What lots of folks don't seem to understand is
that they can easily extract our email addresses from the message header
and send messages directly to us. I presume there's an opportunity to do
that from the forum also.

Ken H.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:

> Netters
> Darryl Myers tried to send me a PM but my profile wasn't accepting. This
> is not the first time I have had a report of this and I don't know what to
> do about it.
>
> My viewing of this site is on the email list if that makes any difference.
> Now, what can I do and where do I go to make the changes so PM's will be
> accepted?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230255 is a reply to message #230248] Tue, 19 November 2013 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike you WILL have to log onto the forum and under your profile there is a space where you can select to have your email set to "public view" or something like that. if it is set to no then no one on the forum will see your email. unless of course then find it in a reply from another email user. (like Ken)

Ken has set his profile ON THE FORUM - you need to log into that. to allow his email addres to be public.

I had not until just now when I noticed the check box, thought people could see my email anyway too Smile



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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230258 is a reply to message #230255] Tue, 19 November 2013 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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or send an email


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM, 1275gtsport@gmail.com <
1275gtsport@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> Mike you WILL have to log onto the forum and under your profile there is a
> space where you can select to have your email set to "public view" or
> something like that. if it is set to no then no one on the forum will see
> your email. unless of course then find it in a reply from another email
> user. (like Ken)
>
> Ken has set his profile ON THE FORUM - you need to log into that. to allow
> his email addres to be public.
>
> I had not until just now when I noticed the check box, thought people
> could see my email anyway too :)
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230260 is a reply to message #230248] Tue, 19 November 2013 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe that feature only applies to someone using the forum

If you are using the email list all the sender has to do is to send you an email. He can get your email address from the message he is replying to. Just as I am doing with this message by putting you in with a cc.

If he wants it private he could just forward the gmclist message to yo and add his message.

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Netters
> Darryl Myers tried to send me a PM but my profile wasn't accepting. This
> is not the first time I have had a report of this and I don't know what to
> do about it.
>
> My viewing of this site is on the email list if that makes any difference.
> Now, what can I do and where do I go to make the changes so PM's will be
> accepted?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Michael Beaton
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230266 is a reply to message #230251] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 07:18

Mike,

PM, implemented or not, is a feature of the forum, not applicable to us
heathen direct emailers. What lots of folks don't seem to understand is
that they can easily extract our email addresses from the message header
and send messages directly to us. I presume there's an opportunity to do
that from the forum also.

Ken H.





Dear heather emailer.

What you are stating is not possible. As a security and anti-spam procedure we NEVER see your addresses unless you go in to the forum and allow such in your profile.

I helped Rob set up his forum profile a while back. We turned on PM and email notification. We also listed his email ther so people can see and send direct emails. This way he gets an email notification if someone sends him a PM. He never has to go check his own.


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230267 is a reply to message #230258] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 08:51

or send an email



To what address?


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230270 is a reply to message #230260] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the PM info guys...now if I want to make a change it has to be
done on the Forum, but since I don't use the forum, do I dare venture into
uncharted waters ??

Hmmmmm...perhaps mañana


Mike in NS


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@me.com> wrote:

> I believe that feature only applies to someone using the forum
>
> If you are using the email list all the sender has to do is to send you an
> email. He can get your email address from the message he is replying to.
> Just as I am doing with this message by putting you in with a cc.
>
> If he wants it private he could just forward the gmclist message to yo and
> add his message.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Netters
> > Darryl Myers tried to send me a PM but my profile wasn't accepting. This
> > is not the first time I have had a report of this and I don't know what
> to
> > do about it.
> >
> > My viewing of this site is on the email list if that makes any
> difference.
> > Now, what can I do and where do I go to make the changes so PM's will be
> > accepted?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230271 is a reply to message #230267] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Ken
Every message posted shows the email address of the sender. One can just copy that email address to send an email to them.

For example the message that you just posted shows it came from
n9cv@comcast.net

So I could send a private email to you just by using that address.

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

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>
> Mr ERFisher wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 08:51
>> or send an email
>
> To what address?
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230275 is a reply to message #230266] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Sounds like another reason i can add as to why I don't use the forum.

Emery Stora

On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 07:18
>> Mike,
>>
>> PM, implemented or not, is a feature of the forum, not applicable to us
>> heathen direct emailers. What lots of folks don't seem to understand is
>> that they can easily extract our email addresses from the message header
>> and send messages directly to us. I presume there's an opportunity to do
>> that from the forum also.
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Dear heather emailer.
>
> What you are stating is not possible. As a security and anti-spam procedure we NEVER see your addresses unless you go in to the forum and allow such in your profile.
>
> I helped Rob set up his forum profile a while back. We turned on PM and email notification. We also listed his email ther so people can see and send direct emails. This way he gets an email notification if someone sends him a PM. He never has to go check his own.
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230277 is a reply to message #230270] Tue, 19 November 2013 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 10:26

Thanks for the PM info guys...now if I want to make a change it has to be
done on the Forum, but since I don't use the forum, do I dare venture into
uncharted waters ??

Hmmmmm...perhaps mañana


Mike in NS





Sure you can do it.

Your used id is:

Kingsley Coach (it is case sensitive)

The url is:

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/

On the first screen click on "Login" in the upper right area of the screen. On the next screen enter your case sensitive user id and click on "forgot password".

If you do not know your password, simply click on "forgot password" The forum will send you a password to your registered email address.

With that password you will be able to sign in.

The forum says you have been enrolled since 2009. I think that was the last time Eugene did a reset to the database.

If you need step by step instructions, post that request here here and I'll type some up for you.

BTW, once you sign in, you will not need to you sign in again in the future from that machine because your user id and password will be stored in the cookies on your machine.

Here again is the web site to get you started.

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230282 is a reply to message #230271] Tue, 19 November 2013 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery Stora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 10:28

Ken
Every message posted shows the email address of the sender. One can just copy that email address to send an email to them.

For example the message that you just posted shows it came from
n9cv@comcast.net

So I could send a private email to you just by using that address.

Emery Stora
The forum does not work like that. The only email addresses that forum users see are the ones that the mail list subscribers fail to remove when trimming replies, or the ones that people deliberately insert into the text of their posts. We can't see your email address in the post to which I am replying, but we see the one in the text of your post.

I think there is an option in the forum settings to make your email address available for other forum subscribers if they look at your profile, but most of us are internet security savvy and leave that box unchecked to keep the spam sort of under control.

That's why there is a private message option. So we can send private messages with an email address to other forum members without having it plastered on the internet to be harvested by spammers.

When you post an email address like you did, without obfuscating it in any way, you increase the chances that the owner of it will start getting boatloads of spam.
Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230285 is a reply to message #230251] Tue, 19 November 2013 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 07:18

Mike,

PM, implemented or not, is a feature of the forum, not applicable to us heathen direct emailers. What lots of folks don't seem to understand is that they can easily extract our email addresses from the message header and send messages directly to us. I presume there's an opportunity to do
that from the forum also.

Ken H.
Ken,

No. There is not. The only way a forum user can see an email address from anyone is if it occurs in the text of a message. The header info evaporates before it becomes part of the forum.

If there is no email address in a particular member's profile, the only way to get an email address for them from the forum is to search the forum for posts where an email subscriber replying to a post failed to clip the affected info when they replied to a post (wherein the email address has become part of the text in the reply), which means the email address has been posted for spammers to harvest.
Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230286 is a reply to message #230271] Tue, 19 November 2013 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery Stora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 10:28

Ken
Every message posted shows the email address of the sender. One can just copy that email address to send an email to them.

For example the message that you just posted shows it came from
n9cv@comcast.net

So I could send a private email to you just by using that address.

Emery Stora




Not true.

Email addresses are NEVER shown on the forum. We see that the email came from GMClist and your user id. As an example this posting came from user id "Emery Stora". I have no idea from this posting what your email address is.

Please DO NOT put my email in the text area of a posting on GMCnet again. It exposes me to SPAMERS. I get 3 or 4 emails per day only from people I have given out my email address to. I prefer to keep it that way.

If you know how to sign on to your forum account, I would appreciate it if you would sign on and edit your posting to remove my email address from it.

Ken


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230287 is a reply to message #230282] Tue, 19 November 2013 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am fully aware that the fForum works like that. Which is the reason that I don't use the Forum.

Emery Stora
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:35 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:

>
>
> Emery Stora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 10:28
>> Ken
>> Every message posted shows the email address of the sender. One can just copy that email address to send an email to them.
>>
>> For example the message that you just posted shows it came from
>> n9cv@comcast.net
>>
>> So I could send a private email to you just by using that address.
>>
>> Emery Stora
> The forum does not work like that. The only email addresses that forum users see are the ones that the mail list subscribers fail to remove when trimming replies, or the ones that people deliberately insert into the text of their posts. We can't see your email address in the post to which I am replying, but we see the one in the text of your post.
>
> I think there is an option in the forum settings to make your email address available for other forum subscribers if they look at your profile, but most of us are internet security savvy and leave that box unchecked to keep the spam sort of under control.
>
> That's why there is a private message option. So we can send private messages with an email address to other forum members without having it plastered on the internet to be harvested by spammers.
>
> When you post an email address like you did, without obfuscating it in any way, you increase the chances that the owner of it will start getting boatloads of spam.
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230290 is a reply to message #230287] Tue, 19 November 2013 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IF by chance you put an email addy in a message, make sure that the prefix and suffix is seperated by a space from the '@' and the '.' character as that is what they are looking for is the components together...

ie: george @ there . net

or use words: george at there dot net

you should hopefully NEVER put them all together...

george@there.net


JMHONM
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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230291 is a reply to message #230287] Tue, 19 November 2013 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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emerystora wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 11:53

I am fully aware that the fForum works like that. Which is the reason that I don't use the Forum.

Emery Stora



If an user chooses to allow his email address to be published on the forum he can check that is his profile. It puts the control of the dissemination of his/her address under his control.

Most of us are very sensitive to the unwarranted distribution of our addresses.

Please remove my email address from the previous posting you made with my address in the text.

BTW, I'm getting SPAM from the Branson KOA as a result of our rally there.

Ken B.


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230294 is a reply to message #230291] Tue, 19 November 2013 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 12:04

If an user chooses to allow his email address to be published on the forum he can check that is his profile. It puts the control of the dissemination of his/her address under his control.

Most of us are very sensitive to the unwarranted distribution of our addresses.

Please remove my email address from the previous posting you made with my address in the text.

BTW, I'm getting SPAM from the Branson KOA as a result of our rally there.

Ken B.
Ken,

Emery doesn't use the forum, so he can't edit the post to remove your email address from it.

Unfortunately, trying to keep our email addresses off the forum is a lost cause. Check the second post in this thread (by Ken H.) where his reply caused an inadvertant posting of the email address of the person to whose post he was replying.

It happens over and over again by lots of email list subscribers.
Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230300 is a reply to message #230294] Tue, 19 November 2013 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 12:13

Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 12:04

If an user chooses to allow his email address to be published on the forum he can check that is his profile. It puts the control of the dissemination of his/her address under his control.

Most of us are very sensitive to the unwarranted distribution of our addresses.

Please remove my email address from the previous posting you made with my address in the text.

BTW, I'm getting SPAM from the Branson KOA as a result of our rally there.

Ken B.
Ken,

Emery doesn't use the forum, so he can't edit the post to remove your email address from it.

Unfortunately, trying to keep our email addresses off the forum is a lost cause. Check the second post in this thread (by Ken H.) where his reply caused an inadvertant posting of the email address of the person to whose post he was replying.

It happens over and over again by lots of email list subscribers.


I know, but we have asked repeatedly that they not do that. I regard both Emery and Ken as good friends but I still do not want Nigerian and phishing scams and all of the other crap that goes along with open email accounts. Right now I only get email from people and companies that I want to receive it from. I do not want to have to maintain SPAM filters and folders, etc. because someone published my email address. This is also why my phone number has been unlisted for years. It is located only one place that it is Internet accessible and that is buried in the Black List.

There is nothing preventing Emery from signing on editing my address out of his posting. He intentionally put it there. It was not inadvertent.


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Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging [message #230308 is a reply to message #230300] Tue, 19 November 2013 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Hi Ken

You might want to go to the forum pages and do a search for n9cv before you get too upset with Emery.

My search shows 'about 176,000' returns.

Dave Mumert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:30 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Private Messaging
>
>
>
> A Hamilto wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 12:13
> > Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 19 November 2013 12:04
> > > If an user chooses to allow his email address to be published on the forum he can check that is his profile. It puts the
control of the
> dissemination of his/her address under his control.
> > >
> > > Most of us are very sensitive to the unwarranted distribution of our addresses.
> > >
> > > Please remove my email address from the previous posting you made with my address in the text.
> > >
> > > BTW, I'm getting SPAM from the Branson KOA as a result of our rally there.
> > >
> > > Ken B.
> > Ken,
> >
> > Emery doesn't use the forum, so he can't edit the post to remove your email address from it.
> >
> > Unfortunately, trying to keep our email addresses off the forum is a lost cause. Check the second post in this thread (by Ken
H.)
> where his reply caused an inadvertant posting of the email address of the person to whose post he was replying.
> >
> > It happens over and over again by lots of email list subscribers.
>
>
> I know, but we have asked repeatedly that they not do that. I regard both Emery and Ken as good friends but I still do not want
> Nigerian and phishing scams and all of the other crap that goes along with open email accounts. Right now I only get email from
> people and companies that I want to receive it from. I do not want to have to maintain SPAM filters and folders, etc. because
> someone published my email address. This is also why my phone number has been unlisted for years. It is located only one place
that
> it is Internet accessible and that is buried in the Black List.
>
> There is nothing preventing Emery from signing on editing my address out of his posting. He intentionally put it there. It was
not
> inadvertent.
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