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What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 10:53 Go to next message
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Including drivetrain.

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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229701 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rolling Chassis = Frame, suspension, wheels, tires, drive train?

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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229707 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Frame, suspension, wheels, tires, drive train?

Yeah.


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229721 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rcjordan wrote on Wed, 13 November 2013 10:53

Including drivetrain.



RC, ask the guy in your Santa Rosa ad Smile
sure he would give you a straight answer.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/rvs/4188466298.html


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229727 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My guess:
Wheels and tires...6 x 65lbs,........390lbs
Rear Suspension.................................350lbs
Front Suspension, torsion bars....375lbs
455 Engine & accessories..............700lbs
Front frame clip.................................250lbs
Transmission and Final drive........325lbs
Frame Rails...........................................500lbs
TOTAL.................................................2890lbs


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Re: [GMCnet] What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229728 is a reply to message #229721] Wed, 13 November 2013 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you figure about 2000 pounds per wheel or 12,000 pounds total you will be close.

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On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Don Adams <dj.adams@att.net> wrote:

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> rcjordan wrote on Wed, 13 November 2013 10:53
>> Including drivetrain.
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> RC, ask the guy in your Santa Rosa ad :)
> sure he would give you a straight answer.
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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229734 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he's talking about the rolling chassis weight without the body.

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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229737 is a reply to message #229727] Wed, 13 November 2013 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bwevers wrote on Wed, 13 November 2013 16:03

My guess:
Wheels and tires...6 x 65lbs,........390lbs
Rear Suspension.................................350lbs
Front Suspension, torsion bars....375lbs
455 Engine & accessories..............700lbs
Front frame clip.................................250lbs
Transmission and Final drive........325lbs
Frame Rails...........................................500lbs
TOTAL.................................................2890lbs

I'd say that's a good estimate !


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229738 is a reply to message #229685] Wed, 13 November 2013 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, thanks Bill. That's what I wanted.

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Re: [GMCnet] What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229772 is a reply to message #229738] Thu, 14 November 2013 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're going to transport it, just tow it.
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Re: [GMCnet] What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229774 is a reply to message #229772] Thu, 14 November 2013 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe he's trying to figure out the scrap value of that Craigslist rolling
chassis...


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229776 is a reply to message #229685] Thu, 14 November 2013 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm background-processing what it would take to make a GMC into a tilt-bed recovery vehicle. There are a lot of reasons that a GMC is perfect, but to get around a lot of the regulations, it must legitimately stay titled as a coach.

From NCDMV site:

HC: House Car - Self propelled vehicles equipped with permanent living and sleeping facilities and used for camping activities classified as private passenger vehicles. The body style of these vehicles will be designated as house cars.

A house car must provide **at least 4** of the following facilities:
1. Cooking
2. Refrigeration or ice box
3. Self contained toilet
4. Heating or Air conditioning
5. Portable water supply system including a faucet and sink
6. Separate 110-125 volt electrical power supply or an LP gas supply

So chop the cab to a "sleeper" configuration similar to an 18-wheeler. Extend the chassis to have X feet clear behind the cab's rear partition. Widen the chassis where the bogies bolt on to max 102" OD.

The only problem I see is the weigh stations kicking a bitch when you blow by them and -when stopped- trying to convince the patrolman that it's a toyhauler and not a truck.


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Re: [GMCnet] What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229777 is a reply to message #229776] Thu, 14 November 2013 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would think the TZE VIN would handle that problem. "It's a heavily
modified motorhome, officer."


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:58 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:

>
>
> I'm background-processing what it would take to make a GMC into a tilt-bed
> recovery vehicle. There are a lot of reasons that a GMC is perfect, but to
> get around a lot of the regulations, it must legitimately stay titled as a
> coach.
>
> From NCDMV site:
>
> HC: House Car - Self propelled vehicles equipped with permanent living and
> sleeping facilities and used for camping activities classified as private
> passenger vehicles. The body style of these vehicles will be designated as
> house cars.
>
> A house car must provide **at least 4** of the following facilities:
> 1. Cooking
> 2. Refrigeration or ice box
> 3. Self contained toilet
> 4. Heating or Air conditioning
> 5. Portable water supply system including a faucet and sink
> 6. Separate 110-125 volt electrical power supply or an LP gas supply
>
> So chop the cab to a "sleeper" configuration similar to an 18-wheeler.
> Extend the chassis to have X feet clear behind the cab's rear partition.
> Widen the chassis where the bogies bolt on to max 102" OD.
>
> The only problem I see is the weigh stations kicking a bitch when you blow
> by them and -when stopped- trying to convince the patrolman that it's a
> toyhauler and not a truck.
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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229778 is a reply to message #229685] Thu, 14 November 2013 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin, you know better than anyone here that "the law" and "how an officer chooses to interpret the law" are two different things.

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Re: [GMCnet] What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229779 is a reply to message #229778] Thu, 14 November 2013 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True that. But it gives the cop a reason to not have to do the paperwork,
or gives a judge a reason to dismiss it. :)


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229780 is a reply to message #229685] Thu, 14 November 2013 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>gives a judge a reason to dismiss it.

And who pays for that? Me. Restitution? None.

There's a reason that until NC dropped the visible inspection sticker requirement I carried a letter on state letterhead that cited the statutes.


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229796 is a reply to message #229776] Thu, 14 November 2013 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rcjordan wrote on Thu, 14 November 2013 06:58

I'm background-processing what it would take to make a GMC into a tilt-bed recovery vehicle. There are a lot of reasons that a GMC is perfect, but to get around a lot of the regulations, it must legitimately stay titled as a coach.

From NCDMV site:

HC: House Car - Self propelled vehicles equipped with permanent living and sleeping facilities and used for camping activities classified as private passenger vehicles. The body style of these vehicles will be designated as house cars.

A house car must provide **at least 4** of the following facilities:
1. Cooking
2. Refrigeration or ice box
3. Self contained toilet
4. Heating or Air conditioning
5. Portable water supply system including a faucet and sink
6. Separate 110-125 volt electrical power supply or an LP gas supply

So chop the cab to a "sleeper" configuration similar to an 18-wheeler. Extend the chassis to have X feet clear behind the cab's rear partition. Widen the chassis where the bogies bolt on to max 102" OD.

The only problem I see is the weigh stations kicking a bitch when you blow by them and -when stopped- trying to convince the patrolman that it's a toyhauler and not a truck.


If it is not used for commercial purposes, none of that applies.


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229807 is a reply to message #229685] Thu, 14 November 2013 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>commercial purposes, none of that applies.

Ahh, but the INSURANCE rates for coaches vs other vehicle types do, Bob. Even for just liability, on my personal policy the differential between coaches and trucks on my fleet is about $360/yr.


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229808 is a reply to message #229807] Thu, 14 November 2013 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In Texas coaches are trucks, even GMC's.


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Re: What does a 26' rolling chassis weigh? [message #229809 is a reply to message #229685] Thu, 14 November 2013 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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>Texas

Coaches are exempt from weigh stations, I presume?


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