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Hello everyone,
I would like to see if my idea is even worth putting together.
How many of you would be willing to travel, in 2015, to Prescott, ON which is about an hour away from the Nation’s Capital of Canada – Ottawa?
The GMC club could hold a rally here on our farm.
Those who wanted to could go visit the capital, museums, some historical places/site in towns nearby during the day and come back here to camp over night for a week. This could start Friday June 20, 2015 with a departing date of June 30, 2015 or sooner; for those who cannot stay as long.
You would have to dry camp and we could provide water to fill your tank.
Also there are places close by in which one could dump their tanks, for a small fee, when needed.
We would plan to rent porta-potties for the car shows and could do the same for the RV event – to help keep your RV dry camping longer. (grin)
BTW – Would $200 per coach be asking too much for one week of dry camping on our property?
Marie and I are blessed to have a 154 acre farm.
However, I’m no farmer! (grin)
When we first saw the place; I could picture a great fit for a car guy and this property.
Our farm is surrounded by crown land. No house development or neighbors beyond our house and barn.
There are about 30 acres of open fields we can use and we get to enjoy peace and quiet along with nature.
We would like to hold individual car shows and RV events every few years.
Marie and I are members of the Ultravan club and I would love them to come.
However, not many coaches are on the road and few members travel from coast to coast as it is.
With all the work it takes to put an event like this together; I would like to do the two different events in the same summer.
We plan to give the proceeds, after any expenses, to Habitat for Humanity and Hospice in our area.
IF needed I plan to hire the boy scouts and/or girl guides; if people are messy and the property needs to be cleaned up of trash left on the ground when everyone leaves. I also thought I would check to see if either of them could provide food, for the car events; to help share the proceeds while offering food service to those who come to our car show.
We truly want to share and put to good use what we are blessed to have while meeting and having fellowship with people who share some of our interests!
I know there are way more GMC MHs on the road today then there are Ultravans.
For the past couple of years I have passed this idea around the Ultravan club – and no one has shown any interest.
My hope is that we could have a GMC event here and maybe some Ultravans will show up too.
How many of you would like to do this?
How can we make this happen?
Note: if you’re travelling from the States, you’d need to have a passport to cross the border into Canada.
Just a thought – one that I would like to see come true!
Sincerely, Tony
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229461 is a reply to message #229457] |
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| Ultravan Owners wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 10:40 |
Hello everyone,
I would like to see if my idea is even worth putting together.
How many of you would be willing to travel, in 2015, to Prescott, ON which is about an hour away from the Nation’s Capital of Canada – Ottawa?
The GMC club could hold a rally here on our farm.
Those who wanted to could go visit the capital, museums, some historical places/site in towns nearby during the day and come back here to camp over night for a week. This could start Friday June 20, 2015 with a departing date of June 30, 2015 or sooner; for those who cannot stay as long.
You would have to dry camp and we could provide water to fill your tank.
Also there are places close by in which one could dump their tanks, for a small fee, when needed.
We would plan to rent porta-potties for the car shows and could do the same for the RV event – to help keep your RV dry camping longer. (grin)
BTW – Would $200 per coach be asking too much for one week of dry camping on our property?
Marie and I are blessed to have a 154 acre farm.
However, I’m no farmer! (grin)
When we first saw the place; I could picture a great fit for a car guy and this property.
Our farm is surrounded by crown land. No house development or neighbors beyond our house and barn.
There are about 30 acres of open fields we can use and we get to enjoy peace and quiet along with nature.
We would like to hold individual car shows and RV events every few years.
Marie and I are members of the Ultravan club and I would love them to come.
However, not many coaches are on the road and few members travel from coast to coast as it is.
With all the work it takes to put an event like this together; I would like to do the two different events in the same summer.
We plan to give the proceeds, after any expenses, to Habitat for Humanity and Hospice in our area.
IF needed I plan to hire the boy scouts and/or girl guides; if people are messy and the property needs to be cleaned up of trash left on the ground when everyone leaves. I also thought I would check to see if either of them could provide food, for the car events; to help share the proceeds while offering food service to those who come to our car show.
We truly want to share and put to good use what we are blessed to have while meeting and having fellowship with people who share some of our interests!
I know there are way more GMC MHs on the road today then there are Ultravans.
For the past couple of years I have passed this idea around the Ultravan club – and no one has shown any interest.
My hope is that we could have a GMC event here and maybe some Ultravans will show up too.
How many of you would like to do this?
How can we make this happen?
Note: if you’re travelling from the States, you’d need to have a passport to cross the border into Canada.
Just a thought – one that I would like to see come true!
Sincerely, Tony
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229464 is a reply to message #229457] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 10:07 |
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Marie and I own Corvairs and are Corsa members too.
Below is a link to a thread I did on the Corvair site I belong to.
The thread was done September 16, 2012 and talks about the events I would like to have here and has pictures of the layout of the fields here.
BTW - You do not have to be a member of the site to see the thread and all the pictures. It is much easier for me to send you there - than it would be to post pictures on the GMC photo site and link the thread/email to all of them.
For those who like to see our farm and the layout; here is the link.
http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,544792,page=1
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229470 is a reply to message #229457] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 10:27 |
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Tony,
Regarding Matt's blank message,
Some of us are masters of encryption! You will see it quite often here, especially from JimK. ;)
You have a nice farm. Sure wish i was as fortunate.
I am interested in participating in a gmc related rally if you
make it happen. I will go even if my coach isn't functional at that time since I'm only a few hours away.
Were you planning on combining several events together? It would be great to see a gathering of old cars. old RVs, antique farm equipment, a swap meet/flea market, etc. etc. The more people you can pull together, the better the chances of a successful event.
Les Burt
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229473 is a reply to message #229459] |
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Reply to what Tony (Ultravan Owners) wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 10:40,
The copy was an Oops..
Tony,
What you did not say is that Prestcott is the other side of the border crossing from Ogdensburg, NY and it is on the St. Lawrence River. That is only an issue because that part of the world is pretty far from anywhere. (Mary has a cousin that lives in Orleans.) It might be an hour from Ottowa, but it is two hours to Montreal and four hours to Toronto.
Passports are not a big issue, but there are also things nominally carried in a US coach that may be an issue at crossing, like pepper aka bear spray. Crossing back into the US seems to only be a big problem if you come back through Detroit.
While the offer is interesting, and I believe that you should continue to assemble the plan, but there are some hang-ups as far as the GMC crowd that I know. Most will not /cannot dry camp for a week. Dan Greggs solar can get him indefinitely in Quartzsite, but Ontario does not have that much sunshine. We can go four days on tanks, but that requires effort and careful planning and is not comfortable.
As to the cost, the cost to dry camp at Albuquerque during the Balloon Fiesta is 30$us/per day. I'm not sure that Prescott can compare to that.
There also another concern. If the land was farmed once, it has been tilled. As such, it might have trouble with the weight of a coach, and if it rains (this is Ontario) that may be a real big problem.
Don't stop thinking and I hope you can make something that comes together.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229475 is a reply to message #229470] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 10:35 |
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| Les Burt wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 11:27 |
Tony,
Regarding Matt's blank message,
Some of us are masters of encryption! You will see it quite often here, especially from JimK. 
You have a nice farm. Sure wish i was as fortunate.
I am interested in participating in a gmc related rally if you
make it happen. I will go even if my coach isn't functional at that time since I'm only a few hours away.
Were you planning on combining several events together? It would be great to see a gathering of old cars. old RVs, antique farm equipment, a swap meet/flea market, etc. etc. The more people you can pull together, the better the chances of a successful event.
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza 26ft
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Les, Do you know who puts the GMC rallies together?
Who is in charge of the club and whatnot?
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229477 is a reply to message #229459] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 10:37 |
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Both ways now. For me, it's passport into Canada, passport and green
card back into the USA.
Just for fun once, when entering Canada a Canadian customs lady asked me
for my green card, I refused to show it to her. It's a US document,
irrelevant to Canada immigration. She was angry but had to let me through.
Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II
On 11/12/2013 10:50 AM, David H. Jarvis wrote:
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> I don't think 'muricans need a passport to enter Canada.
> They do need a passport to get back in to USA.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229486 is a reply to message #229481] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 11:02 |
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True, there are other documents. Unfortunately, when I asked about the
enhanced driver's license here in NC a couple years ago all I got was
blank looks. A wee bit behind the times...
Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II
On 11/12/2013 11:52 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Do not get too hung up on the US passport thing. A passport, a border crossing card, or an enhanced driver's license issued by some states will work. I carry a border crossing card.
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> I'm interested if you put it together. You ought to do it in 2014.
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229489 is a reply to message #229473] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 11:11 |
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| Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 11:31 |
Reply to what Tony (Ultravan Owners) wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 10:40,
The copy was an Oops..
Tony,
What you did not say is that Prestcott is the other side of the border crossing from Ogdensburg, NY and it is on the St. Lawrence River. That is only an issue because that part of the world is pretty far from anywhere. (Mary has a cousin that lives in Orleans.) It might be an hour from Ottowa, but it is two hours to Montreal and four hours to Toronto.
My reply:
What I do say is that we are near Ottawa - the capital of Canada with lots to see and do nearby. (grin)
Hopefully that will let people know where we are and that there is lots to do and see for the effort to come here. (smiles)
Passports are not a big issue, but there are also things nominally carried in a US coach that may be an issue at crossing, like pepper aka bear spray. Crossing back into the US seems to only be a big problem if you come back through Detroit.
While the offer is interesting, and I believe that you should continue to assemble the plan, but there are some hang-ups as far as the GMC crowd that I know. Most will not /cannot dry camp for a week. Dan Greggs solar can get him indefinitely in Quartzsite, but Ontario does not have that much sunshine. We can go four days on tanks, but that requires effort and careful planning and is not comfortable.
My reply:
I might be saying it wrong. I thought all GMC have Generators.
We can provide water to fill one's fresh water tank. We can even provide porta-potties to help with the longer stay and there are places to dump nearby.
As to the cost, the cost to dry camp at Albuquerque during the Balloon Fiesta is 30$us/per day. I'm not sure that Prescott can compare to that.
My reply:
This is a way for us RVers together and for fund raising too - with most of the funds going to HfH and/or Hospice. Also Marie and I have not camped yet and do not have a clue about the cost. I was thinking no less than $20 per night. That would be $180 and my thought was that not everyone would stay the full week either. When I went to the Corvair convention in Kalamazoo, MI people came and went all week long. Some showed up the night before and left within a couple of days. Other came in the middle or towards the end. It was my first and Thank God - I was able to get there the night before and stay until the day after it ended.
There also another concern. If the land was farmed once, it has been tilled. As such, it might have trouble with the weight of a coach, and if it rains (this is Ontario) that may be a real big problem.
My Reply:
Right now the fields have not been touched in almost 20 years. We allow a local farmer to come take the hay off at no cost to him. I would think few GMC owners will show up with this being the first time doing this and we would start off using the upper field in the back. We are blessed to have a nice gravel road just put in by Enbridge, in 2011, which heads back behind the barn towards the upper field that is high and dry at the peak of our property. It was installed for heavy equipment to get back there and work. Great story: I was telling a neighbor and others my dream of using this property, along with where I like my new barn, and how I love to be able to afford a gravel road to get to our new proposed barn and the upper field too. One year later Enbridge had to do some work on their pipe line and I got a free road. Praise God!
Don't stop thinking and I hope you can make something that comes together.
Matt
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Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229492 is a reply to message #229481] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 11:24 |
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| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 11:52 |
Do not get too hung up on the US passport thing. A passport, a border crossing card, or an enhanced driver's license issued by some states will work. I carry a border crossing card.
I'm interested if you put it together. You ought to do it in 2014.
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Ken,
I would love too. However, I do not think it is enough time for most to have the funds and plan. Also I did not know how the GMC club/group worked. The Ultravan club already has their 2014 rallies planed out for both east and west.
Plus we have a house to sell or rent out. Just too much on my plate to do it all.
BTW - if the weight of one’s coach was is such a "BIG CONCERN" and we knew without a doubt we have a good amount of GMC owners showing up - I could and would contact the sand and gravel company that we have a contract with and have them bring their vibrating roller over to go over the fields that will be needed and compact the earth. We have 30 days in which to pay them – so we could do this the week before people show up and us some of the funds to pay for the roller – IF they were not willing to donate their time. (Smiles)
I'm a retire business owner and I’m use to finding and/or at least try to fix situations.
IF there is a will - there is a way!
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229520 is a reply to message #229492] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 12:52 |
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Tony,
Your reference to "GMC Club" is ambiguous: There are a couple of dozen GMC
clubs. GMC Motorhomes International (GMCMI) is the largest and has members
all over the US, Canada, Australia, and other countries. Then there are
Western States and Eastern States, which nominally draw their members from
West and East of the Mississippi, including adjacent Canadian provinces.
Then there are multiple regional clubs scattered across the country.
Every one of those groups is a sub-chapter of the Family Motor Coach
Association, which caters to all motorhomes, including GMC's, Ultravan's,
Bluebirds, and all the rest. So, you can't just ask the simple question
"who plans the rallies".
The group that's closest to your concept, is probably GMCMI, which does
have a "Rally Manager". However, to save both you and her time, I'll tell
you that there's very little likelihood that a GMCMI convention could be
held at your place, unfortunately. You see, the membership almost
universally wants full hookups for the 150+ coaches expected to attend each
of the two conventions per year. And they want all the amenities of home.
To each convention we ship 20 boxes, 4'x4'x4' (yep, 48"x48"x48")
containing everything from coffee pots, to pens & pencils, to ice cream
freezers, to even a manual forklift. During recent past discussions of the
possibility of having a convention in Canada, the conclusion was that it
would be almost impossible, logistically, to do so.
Now, some of the other, smaller, clubs might be anxious to participate,
contributing volunteers to help with every facet of the operation, but I
think you can forget GMCMI. Oh yeah: As far as the GMC folks, I'm sure
you won't have to worry about the post-rally cleanup problem.
I'd like to come -- but you'll have to promise "NO SNOW". :-)
Ken H.
Americus, GA
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| Re: 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada. [message #229581 is a reply to message #229457] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 18:52 |
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Mabye I should have titled it:
2015: Offering a gather/sleeping place for GMC owners while visiting us, our area and what it has to offer.
Allowing GMC owners on the east a place to gather together, fellowship, plan some sightseeing in our area while visiting poeple/places on the way here and back home.
All this and more while helping to raise funds for causes dear to Marie and I!
Ottawa has great museums, restaurants and entertainment.
Upper Canada Village will tkae you back to the mid 1800's and it is close by just east of us in Morrisburg, ON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Canada_Village
Upper Canada Village web site with lots of information and a map of the Village.
http://www.uppercanadavillage.com/index.cfm/en/about-the-village/all-about-the-village/
Having this in 2015 provides plenty of time to prepare your itinerary - for a great trip and visit.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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Tue, 12 November 2013 19:07 |
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I believe Georgia was the fisrt State to begin issuing 'enhanced' licenses. I got mine the other week, I got there an hour 30 early. Third through the door, took 12 minutes to get it.... but a hassle to turn up all the paperwork.
--johnny
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 2015: Offer to have a GMC Rally/Dry Camping in Prescott Ontario, Canada.
True, there are other documents. Unfortunately, when I asked about the
enhanced driver's license here in NC a couple years ago all I got was
blank looks. A wee bit behind the times...
Dan in NC
1976 Eleganza II
On 11/12/2013 11:52 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Do not get too hung up on the US passport thing. A passport, a border crossing card, or an enhanced driver's license issued by some states will work. I carry a border crossing card.
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> I'm interested if you put it together. You ought to do it in 2014.
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| Ultravan Owners wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 17:52 |
Mabye I should have titled it:
2015: Offering a gather/sleeping place for GMC owners while visiting us, our area and what it has to offer.
Allowing GMC owners on the east a place to gather together, fellowship, plan some sightseeing in our area while visiting poeple/places on the way here and back home.
All this and more while helping to raise funds for causes dear to Marie and I!
Ottawa has great museums, restaurants and entertainment.
Upper Canada Village will tkae you back to the mid 1800's and it is close by just east of us in Morrisburg, ON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Canada_Village
Upper Canada Village web site with lots of information and a map of the Village.
http://www.uppercanadavillage.com/index.cfm/en/about-the-village/all-about-the-village/
Having this in 2015 provides plenty of time to prepare your itinerary - for a great trip and visit.
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Tony,
That sounds really cool and Kathy and I would LOVE to do that. Unfortunately, we both still work full time and can't get enough time off to travel that far in the GMC yet. If we were in a position to do so, we would be there.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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