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Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 05:44

Ken Burton

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I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief workers and supplies.

I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is I do not understand it.

They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).

I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm only hearing s sliver of what is going on.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229107 is a reply to message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 05:57

rcjordan

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Most of the English language newsfeeds seem to picking up Reuters-based stories, Ken, even the Indian & Chinese sources. Take a look at Aljazeera

http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Typhoon_Haiyan_2

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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229108 is a reply to message #229107]

Sun, 10 November 2013 06:08

Ken Burton

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Thanks,

The ham radio server supporting that emergency traffic just went down. I assume it is a communications link that went away. There is currently only one station connected out of Leyte and he is talking to a server in North Carolina. I'm going to go over there and see if I can listen in.

Thanks for the commercial reference.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229109 is a reply to message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 06:06

Steven Ferguson

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Ken,
English is taught in all the schools and I believe it begins at age 5.
Steve

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the
> Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and
> it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to
> have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically
> dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief
> workers and supplies.
>
> I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing
> is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is
> I do not understand it.
>
> They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last
> local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government
> estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).
>
> I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm
> only hearing s sliver of what is going on.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229110 is a reply to message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 06:14

rcjordan

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Perhaps I should warn people that some of the images are very graphic and "unfiltered" by US news media standards.

I expect lots of the chatter is Vietnamese & Chinese as they are next.

US Navy tracking site here:
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/TC.html

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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229116 is a reply to message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 09:04

USAussie

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Ken,

The second language is probably Tagalog.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton

I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the
Island of Leyte and it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to have good commercial communications but
the rest of the Island is basically dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief workers and supplies.

I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing is in English. I have no idea what the second language is.
All I know is I do not understand it.

They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some
non-government estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).

I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm only hearing s sliver of what is going on.
--
Ken

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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229124 is a reply to message #229105]

Sun, 10 November 2013 09:48

Matt Colie

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Ken Burton wrote on Sun, 10 November 2013 06:44

I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief workers and supplies.

I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is I do not understand it.

They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).

I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm only hearing s sliver of what is going on.

We may be hard pressed to offer much help.
When we went through Newport News last spring, there were seven carriers laid up there. The reason given was that all were in need of minor service. The fact that I got from people that knew was that they were alongside as a austerity measure and would remain there until economic pressures on the navy eased up.

This is a shame as one of our carriers can provide 50,000 gallons of clean drinking water, a complete helicopter based transportation system and five operating rooms in addition to the hospital facilities on board.

Let's not let this get to be political.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229131 is a reply to message #229124]

Sun, 10 November 2013 10:28

k2gkk

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I have forgotten which carrier was sent to provide relief after the huge tsunami a few years back but that capability is exactly what is needed.

It's hard to avoid the situation from getting political when everything the current administration does is driven by the possibility of its furtherance of political philosophy.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:48:05 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
>
>
>
> Ken Burton wrote on Sun, 10 November 2013 06:44
> > I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief workers and supplies.
> >
> > I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is I do not understand it.
> >
> > They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).
> >
> > I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm only hearing s sliver of what is going on.
>
> We may be hard pressed to offer much help.
> When we went through Newport News last spring, there were seven carriers laid up there. The reason given was that all were in need of minor service. The fact that I got from people that knew was that they were alongside as a austerity measure and would remain there until economic pressures on the navy eased up.
>
> This is a shame as one of our carriers can provide 50,000 gallons of clean drinking water, a complete helicopter based transportation system and five operating rooms in addition to the hospital facilities on board.
>
> Let's not let this get to be political.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229137 is a reply to message #229109]

Sun, 10 November 2013 10:43

k2gkk

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Spanish, left over from the centuries that Philippines were a colony of France, and native Tagalog survive along with English, itself left over from the time the USA took control after the end of the Spanish-American war.
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> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:06:27 -0700
> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
>
> Ken,
> English is taught in all the schools and I believe it begins at age 5.
> Steve
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the
> > Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and
> > it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to
> > have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically
> > dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief
> > workers and supplies.
> >
> > I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing
> > is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is
> > I do not understand it.
> >
> > They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last
> > local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government
> > estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).
> >
> > I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm
> > only hearing s sliver of what is going on.
> > --
> > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Hebron, Indiana
>
>
> --
> Take care,
> Steve

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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229139 is a reply to message #229131]

Sun, 10 November 2013 10:56

USAussie

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Mac,

With all due respect isn't this the policy of ANY administration?

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Rob M.

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It's hard to avoid the situation from getting political when everything the current administration does is driven by the possibility
of its furtherance of political philosophy.

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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229142 is a reply to message #229137]

Sun, 10 November 2013 11:14

k2gkk

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How the heck did I indicate that Philippines belonged to France rather than Spain? i can only plead "brain fart!"

SORRY!

Mac in OKC

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:43, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Spanish, left over from the centuries that Philippines were a colony of France, and native Tagalog survive along with English, itself left over from the time the USA took control after the end of the Spanish-American war.
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> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:06:27 -0700
> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
>
> Ken,
> English is taught in all the schools and I believe it begins at age 5.
> Steve
>
>
>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been listening to a lot of the ham radio traffic coming out of the
>> Philippines since the typhoon hit. It sounds like the Island of Leyte and
>> it's capitol city of Tacloban got the worse of it. The capitol seems to
>> have good commercial communications but the rest of the Island is basically
>> dead or severely degraded. The airport at Tacloban is open for relief
>> workers and supplies.
>>
>> I'm not picking up everything because only about 50% of what I'm hearing
>> is in English. I have no idea what the second language is. All I know is
>> I do not understand it.
>>
>> They have got a real mess over there with lots of destruction. The last
>> local government report was 1200 dead and climbing. Some non-government
>> estimates are 10,000 (if you can believe the media).
>>
>> I've heard no reports of the US government or military assistance but I'm
>> only hearing s sliver of what is going on.
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
>
>
> --
> Take care,
> Steve

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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #229159 is a reply to message #229139]

Sun, 10 November 2013 14:35

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Ditto

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Mac,
>
> With all due respect isn't this the policy of ANY administration?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
>
> It's hard to avoid the situation from getting political when everything the current administration does is driven by the possibility
> of its furtherance of political philosophy.
>
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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #230309 is a reply to message #229105]

Tue, 19 November 2013 13:19

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Its hard to tell what dialect is being used, but more than likely it's not Tagalog..
They speak Wari?sp? in Samar..
There's more than 60+ dialetcs(many more IIRC) depending on what island ur on..

Guiuan is my spouses home town..
Sometimes you CAN understand what they're saying even if you dont understand the language... Smile

Smile

Just apply the YD factor & you'll be ok (Fed and warm place to stay)JK

Tagalog is the National language they came up with so they could understand each other when elsewhere.

Thankx
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Re: Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #230310 is a reply to message #230309]

Tue, 19 November 2013 13:29

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There are some 120 to 175 languages in the Philippines, depending on the method of classification.[1] Four others are no longer spoken. Almost all are Malayo-Polynesian languages, while one is derived from a Romance Language (Chabacano). Two are official while (as of 2010) twelve are official auxiliary languages.

Official
Filipino (Tagalog), English

Regional languages
Bicol, Sama-Bajaw, Cebuano, Hiligaynon, Ilocano, Kapampangan, Kinaray-a, Maguindanao, Maranao, Pangasinan, Surigaonon, Tausug, Waray-Waray & Zamboangue�o Chavacano

Main foreign languages
Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, Hindi, Korean, Malay, Spanish.

FYI...

I also speak Okie...

Thankx
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Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan [message #230311 is a reply to message #230309]

Tue, 19 November 2013 13:27

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Is Esther's home and/or family affected, Charles?
Our family doctor is from Philippines but all her family is safe.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: cbwoodsr@swbell.net
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:19:22 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
>
>
>
> Its hard to tell what dialect is being used, but more than likely it's not Tagalog..
> They speak Wari?sp? in Samar..
> There's more than 60+ dialetcs(many more IIRC) depending on what island ur on..
>
> Guiuan is my spouses home town..
> Sometimes you CAN understand what they're saying even if you dont understand the language... :)
> Just apply the YD factor & you'll be ok (Fed and warm place to stay)JK
>
> Tagalog is the National language they came up with so they could understand each other when elsewhere.
>
> Thankx
> CBW
> --
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> 77 Kingslay
> MWC OK
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