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Sat, 09 November 2013 18:37  |
Robin Hood
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Oooookay.... so if the CFO says she wants to paint the ceiling and walls,
you do what she says, instead of jacking up the coach.
All four cabinets are out of the coach. One of the bolts is hiding. It was
there and then it wasn't. Bizarre.
The connectors that hook the electrical lines to the lights sure are hard
to get loose.
There is a loose flap of metal in my kitchen vent. I would have expected a
metal flap that would flap when the range hoood fan was blowing, but
otherwise be closed. That's not what I've got. What I've got is a loose
piece of metal stuck in a hole that heads outside the coach.
Dana is really getting into decorating. Yikes. :)
Comments welcome.
http://youtu.be/QEl3i-6_aCo
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Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229087 is a reply to message #229081] |
Sat, 09 November 2013 21:46  |
Ken Henderson
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Robin,
Even if you're not willing to tackle the entire headliner right now, PLEASE
consider doing the forward section where you've already removed the
cabinets to clear the obstructions on at least the forward 10'-12' of
ceilling. With the exception of a few holes, those overhead panels should
be simple rectangles. Easy to cut and pop into place. If you find that
you like the appearance of the FRP panels, or other material, installing
those sheets will be easier than painting what's there, perhaps quicker,
and certainly a lot more durable. Almost any material will present a
surface which will be easier to finish with satisfactory results than the
OEM material.
JMHO,
Ken H.
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Argh. I do not want to take my coach entirely apart. I've seen what
> happens... It takes years to get together again.
>
> CFO sez that I'm not retired and so don't have the kinds of time that some
> of you guys have. We can do more proper upgrades later as money and time
> allow and actually using the coach day today so that we will know what we
> really want to accomplish. So for now that probably means painting the
> current headliner and putting together some sort of window treatments. And
> putting up the cabinets again unless her father who is a cabinet guy can
> make some.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229090 is a reply to message #229087] |
Sat, 09 November 2013 22:04 |
Dennis S
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Robin,
If you take KenH's advice -- here is a photo album by Armand showing his ceiling replacement.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5500-interior-remodel-phase-i.html
If you decide to paint the Old ceiling -- consider Kilz, as the old panels will have lots of adhesive residue which would most likely bleed through other types of paint.
When you put the cabinets back up -- coat the screws with anti-seize -- because the threaded inserts are known to fail and spin. So if/when you take the cabinets down again, you have a better chance that the screws will be ok.
Dennis
| Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 09 November 2013 21:46 |
Robin,
Even if you're not willing to tackle the entire headliner right now, PLEASE
consider doing the forward section where you've already removed the
cabinets to clear the obstructions on at least the forward 10'-12' of
ceilling. With the exception of a few holes, those overhead panels should
be simple rectangles. Easy to cut and pop into place. If you find that
you like the appearance of the FRP panels, or other material, installing
those sheets will be easier than painting what's there, perhaps quicker,
and certainly a lot more durable. Almost any material will present a
surface which will be easier to finish with satisfactory results than the
OEM material.
JMHO,
Ken H.
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Argh. I do not want to take my coach entirely apart. I've seen what
> happens... It takes years to get together again.
>
> CFO sez that I'm not retired and so don't have the kinds of time that some
> of you guys have. We can do more proper upgrades later as money and time
> allow and actually using the coach day today so that we will know what we
> really want to accomplish. So for now that probably means painting the
> current headliner and putting together some sort of window treatments. And
> putting up the cabinets again unless her father who is a cabinet guy can
> make some.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229098 is a reply to message #229068] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 00:45 |
rallymaster
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I whole heartedly agree with anyone who suggests FRP. If it turns out
that you don't like it, it can be covered with one of several fabric
products.
It couldn't care less about leaks. Water will run to the lowest point
where there is an exit and drip or run through the gap. No harm to the
FRP; I have a couple of chunks that I laid on the ground to keep the
grass from growing. They did get a little dirty from splashed mud and
critter paws, but a little scrubbing will take care of that. If you get
mud on the headliner while it's in your coach, you have a real problem.
I also cut a piece of FRP to cover the open back sections of the overhead
cabinets. That solved the problem of mouse migration from one cabinet to
the next.
RonC
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 22:46:05 -0500 Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
writes:
> Robin,
>
> Even if you're not willing to tackle the entire headliner right now,
> PLEASE
> consider doing the forward section where you've already removed the
> cabinets to clear the obstructions on at least the forward 10'-12'
> of
> ceilling. With the exception of a few holes, those overhead panels
> should
> be simple rectangles. Easy to cut and pop into place. If you find
> that
> you like the appearance of the FRP panels, or other material,
> installing
> those sheets will be easier than painting what's there, perhaps
> quicker,
> and certainly a lot more durable. Almost any material will present
> a
> surface which will be easier to finish with satisfactory results
> than the
> OEM material.
>
> JMHO,
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Argh. I do not want to take my coach entirely apart. I've seen
> what
> > happens... It takes years to get together again.
> >
> > CFO sez that I'm not retired and so don't have the kinds of time
> that some
> > of you guys have. We can do more proper upgrades later as money
> and time
> > allow and actually using the coach day today so that we will know
> what we
> > really want to accomplish. So for now that probably means
> painting the
> > current headliner and putting together some sort of window
> treatments. And
> > putting up the cabinets again unless her father who is a cabinet
> guy can
> > make some.
> >
> >
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Ron & Linda Clark
1978 Eleganza II
North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229099 is a reply to message #229079] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 00:57 |
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ljdavick
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Robin,
If I were in the moist south I would use the FRP board they sell at Home Depot or Lowes. In my video the picture of the old style loop had FRP paneling on the ceiling. One side is smooth, the other is textured. What you see in the picture is the textured side. No need to glue anything to it if that look is acceptable to you.
If you want to glue something to it use the smooth side.
It's probably the best bang for the buck and it's impervious to water.
Larry Davick
> On Nov 9, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes, it was Larry Davick. My wife and I just re-watched his video and now
> that we have a bit of experience working with the ceiling of our coach, we
> were able to get a lot more from his video. :-) 1/8 inch thick smooth board
> from Home Depot.
>
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jackson, MS
> 2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229100 is a reply to message #229068] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 00:59 |
rallymaster
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Forgot to mention:
The white ABS that someone (Arch, I think) used works well, and is a
little more rigid. Still bends easily, but doesn't sag over the long
unsupported distances. FRP is easier to find, though... Home Depot,
Lowes, Menard's, etc. If you use the original headliner as a pattern,
cut the new one about 1/4" to 1/2" larger in the long dimension, then
trim to fit (or not) Any mis-fit will probably be covered by the
cabinets, anyway. Adjust the oversize for the remaining panels, after
you find out how the first one fits. That old stuff has shrunk and
warped.
Ronc
Ron & Linda Clark
1978 Eleganza II
North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Taking down the cabinets in the Barn Queen [message #229104 is a reply to message #229090] |
Sun, 10 November 2013 05:39 |
Robin Hood
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Dennis,
Armand's photo album is a big help. Thank you! That's more than I think we
can tackle at the moment, but it definitely shows the way. I especially
like the valences on the windows and how he covered the kitchen window.
On Saturday, November 9, 2013, Dennis Sexton wrote:
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> Robin,
>
> If you take KenH's advice -- here is a photo album by Armand showing his
> ceiling replacement.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5500-interior-remodel-phase-i.html
>
> If you decide to paint the Old ceiling -- consider Kilz, as the old panels
> will have lots of adhesive residue which would most likley bleed through
> other types of paint.
>
> When you put the cabinets back up -- coat the screws with anti-seize --
> because the threaded inserts are known to fail and spin. So if/when you
> take the cabinets down again, you have a better chance that the screws will
> be ok.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
--
Robin Hood
Jackson, MS
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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