| SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228077] |
Fri, 01 November 2013 17:21  |
rcjordan
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"The company decided in 1970 to build a larger version of the Ultravan, and they called it the Tiara. 23' long and using a Oldsmobile Toronado 455 Engine and front wheel drive setup, they created a luxury RV that weighed in at a little over 6000 lbs"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Ultra-Tiara-Motor-Coach-/261319088673
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228083 is a reply to message #228077] |
Fri, 01 November 2013 18:14  |
C Boyd
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HUMMM.. 3/4 style 8 lug straight wheels on the rear and on the spare size 33x12.5x? presumably 16.5 but offset dually type wheels on the front with 8 lugs which could have been changed since there seems room for the straight wheels. The first few GMCS were Toro 5 lug and I had thought the 8 lug hubs were GMC SPECIFIC made for the Toros just for the Motorhome?? But these are 1971??? So maybe the 8 lug hubs were 3/4 ton or 1 ton GMC 4x4 truck that were available???
quote title=rcjordan wrote on Fri, 01 November 2013 18:21]"The company decided in 1970 to build a larger version of the Ultravan, and they called it the Tiara. 23' long and using a Oldsmobile Toronado 455 Engine and front wheel drive setup, they created a luxury RV that weighed in at a little over 6000 lbs"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Ultra-Tiara-Motor-Coach-/261319088673
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C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228114 is a reply to message #228093] |
Fri, 01 November 2013 19:55 |
C Boyd
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Very interesting and informative, thank you.. It sure fills in some of the blanks in my little mind that has been trying to figure out how GM came up with so many "good idears" on one unique vehicle.
| Owen wrote on Fri, 01 November 2013 20:04 |
That coach is seriously modified - the stock version didn't have wheel cutouts because the floor structure wouldn't allow it. So whoever did that could've done just about anything.
Note: the prototype shown on the early brochures also has wheel arches, but the production coaches did not.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8769347@N03/6107617136/in/set-72157627454493009
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228161 is a reply to message #228114] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 07:37 |
Owen
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The Tiara was first built in 1969, so the drivetrain was pure Toronado car - AFAICT if wasn't beefed up, widened, or modified at all. The initial units actually used the Toro car rear axle, though even at only 6000 lbs that proved to be inadequate.
Owen in KS
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228171 is a reply to message #228161] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 09:40 |
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FYI:
There were actually 4 OTHER motorhome manufacturers using the Toronado 455/fwd design that were built BEFORE the GMC MH, Cortez, Revcon, Tiara & Travoy.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228178 is a reply to message #228106] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 11:40 |
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Some Other Brand. You'll need to 'splain that on TV.
--johnny
From: Chris lightfoot <Clightfoot09@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara
Jw
What are y'all referring to with the SOB acronym? Is that the common "son of a b$&@" Or something different like "some other bus" or "some other brand" ? Trying to figure out if this is part of some GMC code or just "man talk" :)
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228195 is a reply to message #228173] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 15:28 |
bryant374
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rcjordan
Travoy??
Should we make changes to this article to include Travoy, or was it too obscure?
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Don't know how many they made, my guess is similar to Tiara numbers.
I have a period ad and a copy of a sales brochure should you need info from there.
Bill Bryant
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1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228199 is a reply to message #228195] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 16:10 |
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[quote title=bryant374 wrote on Sat, 02 November 2013 13:28]rcjordan
Travoy??
Should we make changes to this article to include Travoy, or was it too obscure?
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Don't know how many they made, my guess is similar to Tiara numbers.
I have a period ad and a copy of a sales brochure should you need info from there.
[ I haven't seen either of those in a coon's age they are both but ugly.
Roy Keen
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| Re: SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228250 is a reply to message #228077] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 07:25 |
rcjordan
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Any idea of the total production of either of these brands?
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] SOB on ebay: 1971 Ultra Tiara [message #228267 is a reply to message #228254] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 09:12 |
Owen
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Tiaras are related to and supported by the Ultra Van club. Principals of Ultra & Belco were invited to one of the UV rallies and they stated that there were a total of 42 Tiaras built from 1969-1972.
Only about 25 have ever been identified by the club though, and just 16 have turned up in the last decade.
I don't know much about Travoys. One of the UVers used to show up at rallys with one (before my time), and I have been told it was an extremely comfortable coach.
Owen in KS
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