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Re: [GMCnet] Who is Charles Woods, Sr. [message #226094 is a reply to message #226087] Fri, 18 October 2013 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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i just ordered $89 from jim k. the CD for all manuals plus back up things for future proofing. I support all those that are honest

and support me with integrity. If they do not, F$$$ them. I support the pictures, the sites and donate each year to all of them.

When i get screwed from someone, and it is on purpose i will never again support them unless they make it right and do not lie about

what happened in my face and on this site. Where i come from in West Frankfort illinois, if someone screws you - never forget it.

and warn others so they will not get screwed. The rich patrons of a mechanic will never get screwed especially if they are a president

of a club or well known, but if a newbie comes and no one knows them and they seem like they are an easy target like i was then

they strike and show their real trailer trash colors. This is to be remembered. I know we should all not cause any waves and keep

everyone happy and not break up the vibe. But when i get screwed and it is obviously done on purpose. I do not forget.

I am not cheap, i tip $100 every time i see my mechanic. I do this for a living. If some one screws me, they are mental. It happened.

These things should be in light of day for all those that come know to watch and beware. I have only had one person screw me the

rest are as good as gold. I cannot even get a receipt from this one that was bad. fini.

michael s. mitchell anaheim ca. 77 palm beach

pictures are automatically copy righted so if someone uses them they can be sued. I just got out of a copy right seminar.




On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Jim Bounds wrote:

> Maybe I missed a thread or something but who is Charles Woods and why is he using pics off my site to promote buying parts for GMC's outside the GMC dealer structure? I, in no way, support those efforts or condone the use of images from my web site to promote encouraging folks to buy parts outside of the people we need to support to keep our motohomes on the road.
>
> I'm not meaning for this to come off self centered but shortsheeting myself, Jim K. , Jeff Sirum, Miguel, Manny, Ken Frey, Dick Patterson, Dave Linzi, Gene Dotson, Frank Jenkins and others is just not helping any of us. This may be unique to the RV world and sometimes folks may not even think about this which means we need to work harder to help them understand if not for so many working hard to keep parts available--- it's not the case of "find the part if you can". We know the parts and we can help you usually save money but at least know you have someone to help you with your parts in installation, adjustment and maintining them.
>
> Just called JIm K. and asked him what this was all about-- looks like I did miss a past thread when this was a new topic. Well, it's now new to me and I really do have something to say. "If you don't use it you loose it", if you do not support the GMC dealer network it will go away. It's not like we can sell to somebody with a Winnabago! If you do not support our efforts we go away. I'm already spending part of my waking time pushing Fire Fight Products as Jim K. has Applied filters to help keep our other businesses afloat. The original GM part numbers are long gone, even the dealer to vendor books I fave from GM are pretty much historical. We have to search hard to find things, we need folks to buy parts to keep us working.
>
> Don't make the "support your vendors" saying just lip service-- YOU make a difference, every one of you. Lurkers and new GMC owners please understand availability of parts makes the GMC stand out, having lagitimate dealers who still support the GMC makes it stand out, don't take this for granted. You can differ with my opinion, if so don't call me when you look everywhere and can't find a part. I'm here for more than that.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Who is Charles Woods, Sr. [message #226095 is a reply to message #226087] Fri, 18 October 2013 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim
Good on you.
A personal point when we broke down on the way to Coos Bay in Gold Beach Oregon
First call for replacement cable was to Jim K asking if he was on the road yet.
Hoping he had a cable with him.
Yes Jim is on the road, no I don't think he is not carrying what you need.
Nick told me he could overnight the cable.
Less then 18 hours later we had the part.
That's service.
No lip service here.
When I need a part it's a no brainier.
Except for filters or oil
I call you, Manny or Jim K
Thanks
Howard
Alpine Ca
74 Canyon Lands
Not quite stock


All is well with my Lord



> On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:05, Jim Bounds <gmccoop@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe I missed a thread or something but who is Charles Woods and why is he using pics off my site to promote buying parts for GMC's outside the GMC dealer structure? I, in no way, support those efforts or condone the use of images from my web site to promote encouraging folks to buy parts outside of the people we need to support to keep our motohomes on the road.
>
> I'm not meaning for this to come off self centered but shortsheeting myself, Jim K. , Jeff Sirum, Miguel, Manny, Ken Frey, Dick Patterson, Dave Linzi, Gene Dotson, Frank Jenkins and others is just not helping any of us. This may be unique to the RV world and sometimes folks may not even think about this which means we need to work harder to help them understand if not for so many working hard to keep parts available--- it's not the case of "find the part if you can". We know the parts and we can help you usually save money but at least know you have someone to help you with your parts in installation, adjustment and maintining them.
>
> Just called JIm K. and asked him what this was all about-- looks like I did miss a past thread when this was a new topic. Well, it's now new to me and I really do have something to say. "If you don't use it you loose it", if you do not support the GMC dealer network it will go away. It's not like we can sell to somebody with a Winnabago! If you do not support our efforts we go away. I'm already spending part of my waking time pushing Fire Fight Products as Jim K. has Applied filters to help keep our other businesses afloat. The original GM part numbers are long gone, even the dealer to vendor books I fave from GM are pretty much historical. We have to search hard to find things, we need folks to buy parts to keep us working.
>
> Don't make the "support your vendors" saying just lip service-- YOU make a difference, every one of you. Lurkers and new GMC owners please understand availability of parts makes the GMC stand out, having lagitimate dealers who still support the GMC makes it stand out, don't take this for granted. You can differ with my opinion, if so don't call me when you look everywhere and can't find a part. I'm here for more than that.
>
> Jim Bounds
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226098 is a reply to message #226077] Fri, 18 October 2013 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Gene,

The engine modifications I have in mind like fuel injection becomes an
automatic issue with California smog and I don't want to do anything with
it. I do a lot of work for a company that does Jag conversions. I hear the
stories of what they go through just depending on which ref they get. I
would rather just avoid that.

The wife's first choice is the Vixen.

Jake


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Jake,
Passing Cal smog tests with a good running/properly tuned GMC is a non
event. I've done it a number of times with over 12 years with 3 different
GMCs.
My gross polluting bone stock fuel injected 1974 Porche 914 was a different
story.
If you call Miguel Mendez at MGMGMC about the 23' coach ask him about smog.
He gets it done for his customers all the time. No problem.

Just curious- what is your wife's first choice?

Good luck in your search
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Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226104 is a reply to message #226072] Fri, 18 October 2013 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Jake,

make sure you take the time to check out some nice GMC's around. your wife will like them so much more then an SOB. especially if she plans on doing any driving.

drivability is the #1 reason you would want a GMC, especially a 23 footer.

I have a 26' stock palm beach. and I keep up with traffic, or I surpass traffic. I am not usually the one getting passed. I absolutely will not follow a SOB. I pull out and leave them behind.

65 is a good speed for me, but I will drive 70-75, if traffic or road conditions allow. 55 is too slow. If I am on a 55mph road, I easily cruise right along at 60MPH. but again, i do not like being the slow guy on the road, even towing a trailer.

I do not drive my gmc any slower then I drive my normal cars.

I would say the only downfall, with a GMC, is space. but that is also one of it's great things. It is easy to drive, park, and even though it is small, the space is so well used. I can easily sleep 5-6 people in mine, and sit 13-14 people driving around, it is quick to park, set up and camp. and quick to get going and drive down the road. I also think I have plenty of space inside, I just lack some exterior storage.

even though they are old, they can be fixed so cheap, and people know how to exactly fix everything on one. if one is used regularly, they seem to just go and go.

right now, is a good time to buy. there are some good deals out there.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226106 is a reply to message #226104] Fri, 18 October 2013 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Jon,

That is the kind of review I like hearing. Trying to find some GMC units
around me is what I am trying to do right now. I just found a 26 footer in
a neighborhood just up from my shop. Knocked on the door yesterday but no
one was home. Hopefully they will be willing to answer some questions and
show it to the wife.

What is a SOB if I might ask?

I think you and I have the same driving habits. So that is really good to
hear. Not too worried about repairs. My last one was a 36 foot diesel
pusher on a Spartan chassis. I did 95 percent of any repair or upgrade
myself. I have so many customers in the automotive field that anything else
can be handled no problem.

I was reading up on the article for putting the FWD Cadillac 500 inch
motor in one of these. I made a call to a buddy in the magazine world and
they still have one lying around under a bench from an article almost 10
years ago. Seems like a decent upgrade if I find one with a questionable
engine.

Thank you for the feedback though. I think it only makes my choice
better.

Jake


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Jake,

make sure you take the time to check out some nice GMC's around. your wife
will like them so much more then an SOB. especially if she plans on doing
any driving.

drivability is the #1 reason you would want a GMC, especially a 23 footer.

I have a 26' stock palm beach. and I keep up with traffic, or I surpass
traffic. I am not usually the one getting passed. I absolutely will not
follow a SOB. I pull out and leave them behind.

65 is a good speed for me, but I will drive 70-75, if traffic or road
conditions allow. 55 is too slow. If I am on a 55mph road, I easily
cruise right along at 60MPH. but again, i do not like being the slow guy
on the road, even towing a trailer.

I do not drive my gmc any slower then I drive my normal cars.

I would say the only downfall, with a GMC, is space. but that is also one
of it's great things. It is easy to drive, park, and even though it is
small, the space is so well used. I can easily sleep 5-6 people in mine,
and sit 13-14 people driving around, it is quick to park, set up and camp.
and quick to get going and drive down the road. I also think I have plenty
of space inside, I just lack some exterior storage.

even though they are old, they can be fixed so cheap, and people know how
to exactly fix everything on one. if one is used regularly, they seem to
just go and go.

right now, is a good time to buy. there are some good deals out there.

--
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226107 is a reply to message #226106] Fri, 18 October 2013 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Jake,
SOB-Some-Other-Brand


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jake Reed <gmcnet@sheetmetaleng.com>wrote:

> Jon,
>
> That is the kind of review I like hearing. Trying to find some GMC units
> around me is what I am trying to do right now. I just found a 26 footer in
> a neighborhood just up from my shop. Knocked on the door yesterday but no
> one was home. Hopefully they will be willing to answer some questions and
> show it to the wife.
>
> What is a SOB if I might ask?
>
> I think you and I have the same driving habits. So that is really good
> to
> hear. Not too worried about repairs. My last one was a 36 foot diesel
> pusher on a Spartan chassis. I did 95 percent of any repair or upgrade
> myself. I have so many customers in the automotive field that anything
> else
> can be handled no problem.
>
> I was reading up on the article for putting the FWD Cadillac 500 inch
> motor in one of these. I made a call to a buddy in the magazine world and
> they still have one lying around under a bench from an article almost 10
> years ago. Seems like a decent upgrade if I find one with a questionable
> engine.
>
> Thank you for the feedback though. I think it only makes my choice
> better.
>
> Jake
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Roche
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:30 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question
>
>
>
> Jake,
>
> make sure you take the time to check out some nice GMC's around. your wife
> will like them so much more then an SOB. especially if she plans on doing
> any driving.
>
> drivability is the #1 reason you would want a GMC, especially a 23 footer.
>
> I have a 26' stock palm beach. and I keep up with traffic, or I surpass
> traffic. I am not usually the one getting passed. I absolutely will not
> follow a SOB. I pull out and leave them behind.
>
> 65 is a good speed for me, but I will drive 70-75, if traffic or road
> conditions allow. 55 is too slow. If I am on a 55mph road, I easily
> cruise right along at 60MPH. but again, i do not like being the slow guy
> on the road, even towing a trailer.
>
> I do not drive my gmc any slower then I drive my normal cars.
>
> I would say the only downfall, with a GMC, is space. but that is also one
> of it's great things. It is easy to drive, park, and even though it is
> small, the space is so well used. I can easily sleep 5-6 people in mine,
> and sit 13-14 people driving around, it is quick to park, set up and camp.
> and quick to get going and drive down the road. I also think I have plenty
> of space inside, I just lack some exterior storage.
>
> even though they are old, they can be fixed so cheap, and people know how
> to exactly fix everything on one. if one is used regularly, they seem to
> just go and go.
>
> right now, is a good time to buy. there are some good deals out there.
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226110 is a reply to message #226107] Fri, 18 October 2013 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Bruce,

Thanks. I will admit I was thinking about that and came up with many
different possibilities.

None of them were that.

Jake


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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:54 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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Jake,
SOB-Some-Other-Brand


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jake Reed <gmcnet@sheetmetaleng.com>wrote:

> Jon,
>
> That is the kind of review I like hearing. Trying to find some GMC
> units around me is what I am trying to do right now. I just found a
> 26 footer in a neighborhood just up from my shop. Knocked on the door
> yesterday but no one was home. Hopefully they will be willing to
> answer some questions and show it to the wife.
>
> What is a SOB if I might ask?
>
> I think you and I have the same driving habits. So that is really
> good to hear. Not too worried about repairs. My last one was a 36
> foot diesel pusher on a Spartan chassis. I did 95 percent of any
> repair or upgrade myself. I have so many customers in the automotive
> field that anything else can be handled no problem.
>
> I was reading up on the article for putting the FWD Cadillac 500
> inch motor in one of these. I made a call to a buddy in the magazine
> world and they still have one lying around under a bench from an
> article almost 10 years ago. Seems like a decent upgrade if I find
> one with a questionable engine.
>
> Thank you for the feedback though. I think it only makes my choice
> better.
>
> Jake
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Roche
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:30 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question
>
>
>
> Jake,
>
> make sure you take the time to check out some nice GMC's around. your
> wife will like them so much more then an SOB. especially if she plans
> on doing any driving.
>
> drivability is the #1 reason you would want a GMC, especially a 23 footer.
>
> I have a 26' stock palm beach. and I keep up with traffic, or I
> surpass traffic. I am not usually the one getting passed. I
> absolutely will not follow a SOB. I pull out and leave them behind.
>
> 65 is a good speed for me, but I will drive 70-75, if traffic or road
> conditions allow. 55 is too slow. If I am on a 55mph road, I easily
> cruise right along at 60MPH. but again, i do not like being the slow guy
> on the road, even towing a trailer.
>
> I do not drive my gmc any slower then I drive my normal cars.
>
> I would say the only downfall, with a GMC, is space. but that is also
> one of it's great things. It is easy to drive, park, and even though
> it is small, the space is so well used. I can easily sleep 5-6 people
> in mine, and sit 13-14 people driving around, it is quick to park, set up
and camp.
> and quick to get going and drive down the road. I also think I have
> plenty of space inside, I just lack some exterior storage.
>
> even though they are old, they can be fixed so cheap, and people know
> how to exactly fix everything on one. if one is used regularly, they
> seem to just go and go.
>
> right now, is a good time to buy. there are some good deals out there.
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226114 is a reply to message #225946] Fri, 18 October 2013 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Unlimited mods can be done. and there are a few different engines that people have swapped into them. I think that cad 500 is one of the more common and easier ones.

but there are people crossing the country with original 455's.

my personal choice is to just use it, so that is why mine is closer to stock. as long as what is there goes, I am plenty happy.

show your wife this picture:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Hh4IRec2DA/UgT4w8Htc1I/AAAAAAAAR1U/KlTnhfMgPuE/s1600/jenparkrapids2.jpg

keep in mind, that my GMC is ugly. Exterior could use some upgrading.

But that is a picture of my wife and 2 daughters leaving me at home for the weekend to go visit one of her friends.

That Vixen is pretty cool. ultravans are cool. but I guarantee that the parts and repair availability for the GMC is unmatched. even compared to a new motorhome with a waranttee.

so if you want to be different and cool. buy about different vintage motorhome.

if you want to be different and cool, and never be left broken down for long, or be stumped on a repair or part availability. buy a GMC.

either way, let us know how it goes and what you decide.



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] Who is Charles Woods, Sr. [message #226117 is a reply to message #226087] Fri, 18 October 2013 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll tell you who is Charles Wood, Sr...Mr Bound

I am a GMC owner who has put up with everbody doing his own thing
and then limiting access to it and then saying why dont we support the vendors.
Thats exactly why I am putting the GMC Parts Online and links to other GMC related items in one site.
I FULLY support using the GMC dealers FIRST and am trying to get an accessable site for doing so but I also realize the fact that GMC owners can go to NAPA and get an oil filter rather than trying to get it from a 'Dealer'..
ALL GMC people can input/edit/etc parts in the system.
I purposely added links to JimK's online site complete with pictures on line directly to the page where one could order the part from him. I also contacted him and Nick giving them logins to check it out. I have also added some with links to your site based off your pages to also allow DIRECT links for purchasing from you. However it is hard to find out what you have to offer from the site.
I have also added some for Miguel's parts.
Unfortunately, my HD broke and I lost some data and I am in process of restoring the site and continuing to add more to the site. Much of the data in the system comes directly from GMC owners and traffic from the forum.
The site has links to BDub's Vendors page, to the 78z Parts manual, to the wiring diagrams and also allows searching not only the parts information, but also the Forum which I coordinated with Eugene first.
The pictures come from the GMCmhphoto site and if I cant find a particular picture say for a part, then I use the picture from a site that has it.
I have also attempted to show a random picture of a GMC on the initial pages which I have a few pictures of so that others could submit their pictures to show also..

Before crying wolf and saying the sky is falling, (.....promote buying parts for GMC's outside the GMC dealer structure? I, in no way, support those efforts or condone the use of images from my web site to promote encouraging folks to buy parts outside of the people we need to support to keep our motohomes on the road.
) why dont you contact me first and find out what the deal is??
YOU also have the capability to add/edit/etc parts into the system if you so desire, I would be glad to work with you to add these if you have a catalog of what is available, which would have DIRECT links to your site for purchase.
I am a retired 23year combat airforce veteran who understands 'teamwork' and working together.
So.. if your ameniable to that, lets get together and support our GMC owners who need this information especially the newbies which in turn also supports our vendors...
Some of them have no idea of who the vendors are, where they are, and what they have.

What do you say, Mr Bounds, would you like to work together and benefit all or not?

Thankx
CBW

I would have responded sooner, but you hijacked a thread so I didnt see your post.
AND I do buy stuff from the Jim's first.


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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226124 is a reply to message #226114] Fri, 18 October 2013 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Jon,

Thanks for the picture. I just sent it over to her. I would not take out
a perfectly good running 455. But if I found a coach with a price hard to
beat because it had a roached 455 then at least I have an option I would
have never have thought of if it was not for the excellent support in the
GMC community.

I like a lot about the Vixen. Its creation is closely tied to the GMC
motorhome. But I do not care for the floor pan or the bathroom. The
drivetrain options are rather uninspiring and there are almost no options as
far as upgrading.

The older technology is nice and it will do just fine in today's world.
But if the carburetor needed rebuilding I have the experience and lot of the
parts to put a fuel injection system on there. Now the drivability improves
especially with altitude changes.

I don't want to fix it if it's not broke. But if it is............

Jake


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Unlimited mods can be done. and there are a few different engines that
people have swapped into them. I think that cad 500 is one of the more
common and easier ones.

but there are people crossing the country with original 455's.

my personal choice is to just use it, so that is why mine is closer to
stock. as long as what is there goes, I am plenty happy.

show your wife this picture:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Hh4IRec2DA/UgT4w8Htc1I/AAAAAAAAR1U/KlTnhfMgPuE/s1
600/jenparkrapids2.jpg

keep in mind, that my GMC is ugly. Exterior could use some upgrading.

But that is a picture of my wife and 2 daughters leaving me at home for the
weekend to go visit one of her friends.

That Vixen is pretty cool. ultravans are cool. but I guarantee that the
parts and repair availability for the GMC is unmatched. even compared to a
new motorhome with a waranttee.

so if you want to be different and cool. buy about different vintage
motorhome.

if you want to be different and cool, and never be left broken down for
long, or be stumped on a repair or part availability. buy a GMC.

either way, let us know how it goes and what you decide.


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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226140 is a reply to message #226114] Fri, 18 October 2013 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Why is the gas door open ?

FREE WIFI @ Mickey D





On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Unlimited mods can be done. and there are a few different engines that people have swapped into them. I think that cad 500 is one of the more common and easier ones.
>
> but there are people crossing the country with original 455's.
>
> my personal choice is to just use it, so that is why mine is closer to stock. as long as what is there goes, I am plenty happy.
>
> show your wife this picture:
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Hh4IRec2DA/UgT4w8Htc1I/AAAAAAAAR1U/KlTnhfMgPuE/s1600/jenparkrapids2.jpg
>
> keep in mind, that my GMC is ugly. Exterior could use some upgrading.
>
> But that is a picture of my wife and 2 daughters leaving me at home for the weekend to go visit one of her friends.
>
> That Vixen is pretty cool. ultravans are cool. but I guarantee that the parts and repair availability for the GMC is unmatched. even compared to a new motorhome with a waranttee.
>
> so if you want to be different and cool. buy about different vintage motorhome.
>
> if you want to be different and cool, and never be left broken down for long, or be stumped on a repair or part availability. buy a GMC.
>
> either way, let us know how it goes and what you decide.
>
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226141 is a reply to message #226140] Fri, 18 October 2013 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Gas door missing!!!!


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:36 PM, <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is the gas door open ?
>
> FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Unlimited mods can be done. and there are a few different engines that
> people have swapped into them. I think that cad 500 is one of the more
> common and easier ones.
> >
> > but there are people crossing the country with original 455's.
> >
> > my personal choice is to just use it, so that is why mine is closer to
> stock. as long as what is there goes, I am plenty happy.
> >
> > show your wife this picture:
> >
> >
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Hh4IRec2DA/UgT4w8Htc1I/AAAAAAAAR1U/KlTnhfMgPuE/s1600/jenparkrapids2.jpg
> >
> > keep in mind, that my GMC is ugly. Exterior could use some upgrading.
> >
> > But that is a picture of my wife and 2 daughters leaving me at home for
> the weekend to go visit one of her friends.
> >
> > That Vixen is pretty cool. ultravans are cool. but I guarantee that
> the parts and repair availability for the GMC is unmatched. even compared
> to a new motorhome with a waranttee.
> >
> > so if you want to be different and cool. buy about different vintage
> motorhome.
> >
> > if you want to be different and cool, and never be left broken down for
> long, or be stumped on a repair or part availability. buy a GMC.
> >
> > either way, let us know how it goes and what you decide.
> >
> >
> > --
> > 75 palm beach
> > St. Cloud, MN
> > http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226152 is a reply to message #225946] Fri, 18 October 2013 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SteveW is currently offline  SteveW   United States
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Jake -

Steve W again...

A Vixen was seriously on my list but my wife didn't like it... She LOVES the GMC.

I was also serious about a Sportsmobile 4WD van conversion. She's not a 4WD remote camping type... And they're expensive !!

We're very happy with the 23 footer. Perfect for the two of us and out two small dogs.

SW




Steve W 1973 : 23' Southern California
Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226161 is a reply to message #226140] Fri, 18 October 2013 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the gas tank cover is a project since I got the coach over 3 years ago.

it was pried open before i got the coach, and all bent up. I pulled it off, straigtend it out, and primed it with the wrong primer, and tried to paint it. it the paint fell off partly before I even tried to reinstall it. so it sits on my work bench waiting for a second attempt.

someday I will fix that.



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Re: [GMCnet] Who is Charles Woods, Sr. [message #226348 is a reply to message #226093] Sun, 20 October 2013 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jake,
I just received a call from a person that has a current running 23' unit with bath in rear.
It is 77, but I would not be concerned with smog, as we repair these daily and we have hardly any problem with passing smog.
Call: R. J. Taylor (619) 609-4018


Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502
Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226374 is a reply to message #226152] Mon, 21 October 2013 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Steve,

We got to look at a pretty dilapidated Vixen over the weekend. Was not
for sale but we were able to get a good feeling for the interior and walking
around in it. I am 99 percent sure it's off the list. So good news there!

Jake


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Jake -

Steve W again...

A Vixen was seriously on my list but my wife didn't like it... She LOVES the
GMC.

I was also serious about a Sportsmobile 4WD van conversion. She's not a 4WD
remote camping type... And they're expensive !!

We're very happy with the 23 footer. Perfect for the two of us and out two
small dogs.

SW



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Re: [GMCnet] Who is Charles Woods, Sr. [message #226377 is a reply to message #226348] Mon, 21 October 2013 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Jim,

Thanks for the lead. But I am not interested in a unit 76 or later. Also
even though I believe we have ruled out the Vixen my wife wants to take a
close look at a Winnebago D-18 or D-20 so we can rule them out. Although
since I will have to do the work I have already ruled them out. But I
already know with the wishlist of things I want to do with top at the list
being the fuel injection system I want to run. A smog test would be an
automatic fail. I just don't want the headache. I cannot have a rational
discussion with morons and that is the people that develop the smog
regulations.

Jake


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Jake,
I just received a call from a person that has a current running 23' unit
with bath in rear.
It is 77, but I would not be concerned with smog, as we repair these daily
and we have hardly any problem with passing smog.
Call: R. J. Taylor (619) 609-4018
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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #226686 is a reply to message #225946] Wed, 23 October 2013 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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Hello Jake,

Did you finally get a GMC???


Miguel,
MGMGMC
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Miguel

1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.

GMC name : The other woman


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Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #227656 is a reply to message #225946] Tue, 29 October 2013 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jake Reed wrote on Thu, 17 October 2013 10:12

I am in Ventura County California. I recently sold my Holiday Rambler.
After a number of years of seeing some really cool classic RV's the wife and
I have decided we want one. There are three we are considering and our
number 1 choice would be a GMC 23' rear bath. This configuration seems to
be pretty rare. Is there anyone local to me with a 23' unit (does not need
to be a rear bath) that would be will to spend some time answering so
questions I have and letting us check out their RV? It would help us narrow
it down.



Thanks



Jake



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Jake, I wouldn't get too far into the modification concept until you've had some time with a GMC. The 76 through 78 models had many improvements that you are ruling out because of a smog concern. The whole engine swap idea is potentially a can of worms that you really need to be cautious about. Many 403's run as strong as a 455 and by all accounts the original installations of either OLDs powertrains is pretty bullet proof. You need to decide whether you want a classic car that you can camp in or a reliable motorhome that is dead reliable. Either approach is fine, but they are different animals.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Prospective newbie question [message #227714 is a reply to message #227656] Wed, 30 October 2013 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jake Reed is currently offline  Jake Reed   United States
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Bob,

You have some good points. Don't get me wrong though. If there was
nothing wrong with an engine I would not swap it out. I just yesterday went
and looked at a 75 23' with a dead engine for 1500.00. If there was not a
ton of stuff the guy did not tell me about over the phone I probably would
have bought it. That one would have gotten an engine swap.

That said I do not know why you cannot have both. I had a 56 Dodge
Coronet that I drove for about a year until out of nowhere the original
engine let go in a spectacular fashion. It seemed the block cracked on a
casting seem. That engine came out in favor of a 5.7 Hemi engine with the
computer and left all stock. I drove that car for another 3 years. Then it
got sold to my broth in laws neighbor in Texas. I drove it back and handed
him the keys.

Done right a little modernization will enhance an older vehicle. I rarely
see good jobs. But they can be done.

Jake


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Jake Reed wrote on Thu, 17 October 2013 10:12
> I am in Ventura County California. I recently sold my Holiday Rambler.
> After a number of years of seeing some really cool classic RV's the
> wife and I have decided we want one. There are three we are
> considering and our number 1 choice would be a GMC 23' rear bath.
> This configuration seems to be pretty rare. Is there anyone local to
> me with a 23' unit (does not need to be a rear bath) that would be
> will to spend some time answering so questions I have and letting us
> check out their RV? It would help us narrow it down.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Jake
>
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Jake, I wouldn't get too far into the modification concept until you've had
some time with a GMC. The 76 through 78 models had many improvements that
you are ruling out because of a smog concern. The whole engine swap idea is
potentially a can of worms that you really need to be cautious about. Many
403's run as strong as a 455 and by all accounts the original installations
of either OLDs powertrains is pretty bullet proof. You need to decide
whether you want a classic car that you can camp in or a reliable motorhome
that is dead reliable. Either approach is fine, but they are different
animals.
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78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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