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Found my water leak [message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 14:31 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I suspected the water leak that caused water to pool in the headliner in front of the Fridge was caused by a leak in the pod area.

Today, I pulled the pod and see the problem. The pod was held on with NINE philips head screws just screwed into the sheet metal of the roof.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_001.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_001.jpg

There were rubber washers on the bottom and inside the pod that were supposed to keep things watertight I suppose but they are dry rotten and torn.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_002.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_002.jpg

For now I put a dab of silicone over the roof holes in case it rains before I get things repaired.

Which begs the question, how are PODS supposed to be attached? I would think the screws should go through one of the aluminum cross members at the very least.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Found my water leak [message #227608 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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Leave it off.

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
Re: Found my water leak [message #227610 is a reply to message #227608] Tue, 29 October 2013 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Harry wrote on Tue, 29 October 2013 15:33

Leave it off.

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL"



I agree. If you need the storage, get a bumper hitch cargo shelf. Hoping that's what Santa is bringing me this year. I don't need to be climbing up to that box to get things out when there is a better way to do it now. Only reason I want to be on the roof in the future is to clean it off...


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Found my water leak [message #227612 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Since I tow, a hitch box won't work...although I could easily fabricate something to extend my hitch a bit.

However, for now, I'd like to put the pod back if for no other reasons than I have these 9 1/4" holes in the roof that I will have to close up. Not that big a problem either as this is a good use for panel adhesive.

Regardless, I would like to know how these things are SUPPOSED to be installed...


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Found my water leak [message #227615 is a reply to message #227612] Tue, 29 October 2013 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Tue, 29 October 2013 15:55

Since I tow, a hitch box won't work...although I could easily fabricate something to extend my hitch a bit.

However, for now, I'd like to put the pod back if for no other reasons than I have these 9 1/4" holes in the roof that I will have to close up. Not that big a problem either as this is a good use for panel adhesive.

Regardless, I would like to know how these things are SUPPOSED to be installed...



Kerry you can get an up and down double hitch. Box on the top, ball on the bottom. That's what I intend to do. Google "double hitch" and you'll get lots of results. With the box maxing out at 500lbs and flat towing fairly negligable, the tongue weight is manageable for this kind of setup. Wouldn't want to do it with the box and a trailer, but flat towing is different. Plus you can get a folding hitch adapter for the platform, so you can fold it up to hook up your vehicle.

As for how it should be done, mine is not much different than yours. rubber washers, goop, and some screws. Not sure if that was factory or not.


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Found my water leak [message #227619 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
captjack is currently offline  captjack   United States
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Kerry,
There are inserts called well nuts that are designed to provide a water tight fit through sheetmetal. I've used them successfully. There is also a Rivnut product which doesn't have the sealing impact. Here's a link to Grainger although you'll probably find them at a hardware store.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/nut-inserts/thread-insert/fasteners/ecatalog/N-8o2Z1z0r4lx


Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA
Re: Found my water leak [message #227620 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Kerry,

I don't know how it is SUPPOSED to be fastened, but mine has 8 rivnuts through the roof skin. The PO had tried to seal it with fender washers and silicone, inside the pod, but that didn't work. I removed the screws one side (four) at a time, tipped the pod up, and placed a vinyl hose washer around each of the rivnuts, then replaced the screws and repeated the procedure on the other four. That stopped the leaks. Rubber well nuts might work as well, and would be self sealing, but I don't think they will hold as well as rivnuts. I pulled one out of the roof of my Jeep Cherokee one time while tying a Christmas tree to the roof rack. It didn't take much.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Found my water leak [message #227626 is a reply to message #227620] Tue, 29 October 2013 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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Did GM supply a roof pod?
Re: Found my water leak [message #227628 is a reply to message #227612] Tue, 29 October 2013 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<<< Since I tow, a hitch box won't work >>>

put the hitch box on the towd ?

I have Frank Jenkins bumper box and an extended hitch, always tow with no problems. Box is way smaller than a pod. Sure easy to get to.


Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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Re: [GMCnet] Found my water leak [message #227639 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Kerry, when I put my pod on back in 1981 I used rubber well nuts - that take a 1/4 -20 bolt. I used stainless steel bolts.
I have never had a leakage problem and they are still holding well.

Emery Stora

On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:

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>
> I suspected the water leak that caused water to pool in the headliner in front of the Fridge was caused by a leak in the pod area.
>
> Today, I pulled the pod and see the problem. The pod was held on with NINE philips head screws just screwed into the sheet metal of the roof.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_001.jpg
>
>
> There were rubber washers on the bottom and inside the pod that were supposed to keep things watertight I suppose but they are dry rotten and torn.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/21803/H_002.jpg
>
>
> For now I put a dab of silicone over the roof holes in case it rains before I get things repaired.
>
> Which begs the question, how are PODS supposed to be attached? I would think the screws should go through one of the aluminum cross members at the very least.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Re: Found my water leak [message #227641 is a reply to message #227607] Tue, 29 October 2013 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ernest Dankert is currently offline  Ernest Dankert   United States
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I used "elevator" washers from either Grainger or McMaster Carr.

Drilled two holes on either side for pop rivets and JB Welded/pop riveted in place.

Tried JB weld only and it pulled the Imron(r) off the skin.

Made wood spacers as need for the ribs.

Still holding and did not violate the "no rtv" pact with myself.


1977 Eleganza II
Ogden NY
Re: [GMCnet] Found my water leak [message #227858 is a reply to message #227628] Thu, 31 October 2013 07:57 Go to previous message
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<<<  Since I tow, a hitch box won't work  >>>

put the hitch box on the towd ?

I have Frank Jenkins bumper box and an extended hitch,  always tow with no problems.  Box is way smaller than a pod.  Sure easy to get to.
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'76 26' Glenbrook,  '90 Sidekick 
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