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| Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226817 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 08:53   |
powerjon
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I just went to the Golby site and logged in without any problems. Random passwords that get you lockout is probably not a way to go. Your 7 hours ahead of us on time so you got them when they were closed if you tried last night. They have been open for about 2 hour now. You might try again and if you don't know your password follow the prompt. Good luck!
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Espen Heitmann <bimet@online.no> wrote:
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> Really ?? :(
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> I tried to log in at Golby last night and had forgotten my password so I did try a few of the password I use, after three faild attempts I was blocked and got the message in the header.
> I sent them a mail but so far no replay.
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> But really is this the way to treat your customer ? I am on my way to spend some 1000 $ on parts for my GMC and now I am not really sure I will spend them at Golby....
> --
> 1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
> "Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey you can also call me Espen ;)
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| Re: You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226823 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 09:34 |
appie
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Probably one of those 18 years old webdesigners
Of course one has to assume there is a mistake.
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226830 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 09:55 |
kerry pinkerton
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Location: Harvest, Al
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I own and operate a metalshaping website. We get over 300 attempted spammer/hacker/directory attacker/etc registrations EVERY DAY. We use a software package called "STOP FORUM SPAM" that blocks registration of 99.8% of these scumbags (may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their privates)
We also have people who attempt brute force logins by trying multiple logins until they get one right. We just block them out for 30 minutes. The message you got seems extreme but realize that it probably applies to MOST of the folks who did what you did. I'd have phrased it differently.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226838 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 10:33 |
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USAussie
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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G'day,
I just tried to log into the Golby website using a non existent user name and password to see what happens. Sure enough after three
tries it comes back with "You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person."
C'mon Espen with all due respect YOU forgot your password and YOU entered three incorrect passwords it's GOLBY'S fault when you get
locked out? Please explain how Golby is supposed to know you're a customer that has spent over $1000 with them and NOT "a spammer,
hacker or an otherwise bad person?"
Personally I thought that was kinda clever, if it was an Aussie website it would have come back with "Piss off you wanker!" ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Espen Heitmann
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:44 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person.
Really ?? :(
I tried to log in at Golby last night and had forgotten my password so I did try a few of the password I use, after three faild
attempts I was blocked and got the message in the header.
I sent them a mail but so far no replay.
But really is this the way to treat your customer ? I am on my way to spend some 1000 $ on parts for my GMC and now I am not really
sure I will spend them at Golby....
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226839 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 10:50 |
appie
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Maybe we are just very polite ( customer minded) here in Scandanavia
On my website it would read something like:
Dear customer you have entered the wrong password three times, for securety reasons we have blocked your account. Please contact us during opening hours to reopen your account
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226860 is a reply to message #226844] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 12:22 |
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USAussie
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Espen,
Of course we are :)
I figger'd that the message was the problem but note what Kerry Pinkerton has said. My GUESS is that there are more spammers,
hackers, and bad people than customers that make a mistake in their sign on.
Put yourself in Cliff's shoes and for discussions sake let's say somebody got in and screwed up his website big time, what kind of
message would you create?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Espen Heitmann
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:20 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person.
Rob
I am on my way to buy parts, I have not bought anything yet from Golby, but I was on my way to try their shopping cart for the first
time since I did register in june or july.
It is of course not Golby's fault that I did forgett my user name and I did never say so, it was the message that did trouble me.
By the way try to use the same PC to get in to their page again, it is now blocked until you get your IP address unblocked ;)
Appie
I guess we are :)
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1973 26' Parrot green Seqouia in Norway
"Loffen" translates to white bread, it is also a nick name for your.. well you know..down there.. and it was my dog's name, but hey
you can also call me Espen ;)
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226862 is a reply to message #226856] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 12:42 |
Dave Mumert
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Location: Olds, AB, Canada
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Hi
It is not a matter of being thick skinned, it is a matter of how a business
treats customers who have forgotten their password.
I know I have forgotten my password on a number of sites and never received
an insulting response. You gotta love sites that require 15 character
passwords which must contain upper case, lower case, numbers, punctuation,
and don't allow you to reuse any password you have used in the past 2
decades.
I doubt the company is aware of the 'humorous' message. I would think a
wise business man would be far more interested in avoiding losing a customer
than giving would be hackers recognition.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad
> person.
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> Personally I find the automated response humorous (probably how it was
> intended). The online universe is a tough place for those with thin skin.
My
> skin is pretty much the same as a rhinoceros, so anyone wanting to get
under
> it is going to have to use a machete, not rude words.
>
> Given that the vast majority of time, the message that's sent out is
accurate,
> you have to have some perspective on being called a duck after walking and
> quacking like one. ;)
> --
> Mark Hickey
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| Re: You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226881 is a reply to message #226803] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 14:14 |
habbyguy
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I guess I just don't take myself seriously enough to get my knickers in a wad over a message like that. I'm the kind of guy who would laugh at a Don Rickles routine aimed at me instead of rushing the stage to punch him out.
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226895 is a reply to message #226881] |
Thu, 24 October 2013 15:19 |
Keith V
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Location: Mounds View,MN
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Golbys message is wildly inappropriate.
There is never any reason for language like that in a professional setting.
It would be very easy to temper it with a few word changes.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] You are a spammer, hacker or an otherwise bad person. [message #226991 is a reply to message #226978] |
Fri, 25 October 2013 09:03 |
Emery Stora
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What am I supposed to say to the hacker that violated my account and my address book?
Something like this?
"Dear Hacker
For security reasons I have changed my password to attempt to block you from my account. I know that at heart you are a very good person so if you want to do it again I understand. We are polite minded and forgiving people here in Colorado. "
NO WAY!
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
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> appie wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 11:50
>> Maybe we are just very polite ( customer minded) here in Scandanavia
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>> On my website it would read something like:
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>> Dear customer you have entered the wrong password three times, for securety reasons we have blocked your account. Please contact us during opening hours to reopen your account.
>
> Appie,
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> My website used to say something like that until I repaired it the third time and made the IP lockout permanent. The message that came up with that was not pleasant and kind. But, I was a very regional business and the IP was never even North America.
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> I will admit the being customer minded is nice until you get beat over the head with it too many times.
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> I don't sell things on the web anymore.
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> Matt
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