| [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226481] |
Mon, 21 October 2013 19:31  |
Gary Berry
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Hey All;
I need to replace the gear on the end of the transmission governor.
I've removed the driver's side header and the big spring holding on
the top of the governor. The governor won't pop out like I thought it
should. I've looked around and do not see anything else holding the
governor in place. The top of this governor wobbles around a lot, but
the shaft is not pulling out. Am I missing something? Should it just
pop out or is it held in by another bolt or something else? Thanks.
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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226485 is a reply to message #226481] |
Mon, 21 October 2013 20:12  |
lqqkatjon
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might take a little bit of a twist.(unmesh the gears) but it should just come straight out.
try not to do too much real prying or pounding on the outside cover. I ended up bending my governor piece that is inside that can, and had it stuck in 3rd after replacing the gear.
I think it is one of those things that seems impossible, but when it comes up, it comes up really easy, and you wonder what you were trying to force.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226521 is a reply to message #226485] |
Tue, 22 October 2013 00:51 |
jim kanomata
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Go to our web site under Transmission.
The rebuilt governor is tested and rebuilt for us by Wally Anderson.
If nothing else, I'm sure he will assist you.
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226525 is a reply to message #226481] |
Tue, 22 October 2013 07:13 |
mickey szilagyi
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For Jim K and others...
Recently we bought a 3.70 final drive and limited slip for our 77 Kingsley from Jim K. We ordered a governor gear as a spare as well. The governor gear came with a pin and finish nail. There is no hole in the governor gear. So, it appears we'll have to put a hole in it if we ever need to install it. In reading the forum and related info it looks like the hole is 1/8 inch.
On Jim K's website the picture of the governor gear shows two of them, one whitish and one black. The black one looks like it has a hole in it. The white one, no hole, and that's the one we received.
It sure would be nice to have some detailed instructions for installing the governor gear if that time should ever come. And there's a good chance that will occur while on the road somewhere and not at home or in a repair facility. BIG QUESTION - can the hole be pre-drilled ahead of time to make replacement a whole lot easier?
Maybe replacing the governor gear is a piece of cake. We have done a lot so far to our Kingsley. We try to do all we can ourselves. We can do a lot if we just can find out how to do it but we're not experts and therefore need instructions on most everything we do.
Anyone out there have good written instructions for replacing the governor gear that you can share. Greatly appreciated if you do.
Couldn't survive without this forum, thanks to all of you.
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226544 is a reply to message #226542] |
Tue, 22 October 2013 09:40 |
Emery Stora
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The hole through the shaft is not always centered which is why they are often supplied undrilled.
You should drill a hole in one side and then put it on the shaft and use the hole through the shaft as a guide to drill through to the other side.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Wally Anderson <wallyand@aim.com> wrote:
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> Mickey,
> Gear kits come with a couple "nail" looking pieces and a roll pin. You won't use the nails unless you need to unhinge the weights. After you drive the old roll pin out discard it and remove the old gear. Please be careful putting the new gear in the shaft, it is a tight fit and you can bend the yoke in the can or start the yoke coming loose on the shaft as it is just swaged on. What I do is put a rag on shaft and grab a hold of it and tap the gear in with a soft face hammer. To install the roll pin I drill half way through from each side then press the pin in with a pair of pliers. Drill size is 1/8". The original pin was staked in which you can do with a 1/4" chisel.
> Please be careful not to damage the shaft surface where it spins in the transmission.
> The spool can fall out of its bore as the gear is what holds it in so watch for that.
> Please-please don't use the can top as a backstop when tapping the gear home and you should be golden.
> As for predrilling the gear I think it would be real difficult to get it lined up.
> HTH
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> mickey szilagyi wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 07:13
>> For Jim K and others...
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>> Recently we bought a 3.70 final drive and limited slip for our 77 Kingsley from Jim K. We ordered a governor gear as a spare as well. The governor gear came with a pin and finish nail. There is no hole in the governor gear. So, it appears we'll have to put a hole in it if we ever need to install it. In reading the forum and related info it looks like the hole is 1/8 inch.
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>> On Jim K's website the picture of the governor gear shows two of them, one whitish and one black. The black one looks like it has a hole in it. The white one, no hole, and that's the one we received.
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>> It sure would be nice to have some detailed instructions for installing the governor gear if that time should ever come. And there's a good chance that will occur while on the road somewhere and not at home or in a repair facility. BIG QUESTION - can the hole be pre-drilled ahead of time to make replacement a whole lot easier?
>>
>> Maybe replacing the governor gear is a piece of cake. We have done a lot so far to our Kingsley. We try to do all we can ourselves. We can do a lot if we just can find out how to do it but we're not experts and therefore need instructions on most everything we do.
>>
>> Anyone out there have good written instructions for replacing the governor gear that you can share. Greatly appreciated if you do.
>>
>> Couldn't survive without this forum, thanks to all of you.
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| Re: [GMCnet] The Governor [message #226557 is a reply to message #226545] |
Tue, 22 October 2013 10:27 |
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wally
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Here is what a gov looks like inside. This pic is of Dan Gregg's where the yoke came loose and it wouldn't shift right.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/governor-fail-fix-and-mods/p33960-transmission-governor.html
I do use the gov as a template to drill the gear after it is put in.
You won't need the "nails" at all.
A stubby drill should be fine, the shaft diameter is .700"~ where the pin goes.
HTH
| mickey szilagyi wrote on Tue, 22 October 2013 09:54 |
Thanks Wally (HTH),
To completely understand your instructions I'd have to see what you're talking about. That would happen when having to replace the governor. I'll put together an instruction sheet and put it with our spare governor along with some 1/8 bits. Need to figure out how to use the bits - don't really want to carry a cordless drill but might be a good idea.
So, drill the hole with the old governor as a template then to get it in the right spot?
And the nail is to unhinge the weights?
By the way, found a bunch of short double ended 1/8 drill bits at Harbor Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece-1-8-eighth-inch-double-end-titanium-nitride-m2-drill-bits-66213.html
Thanks again.
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