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What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226192] Sat, 19 October 2013 08:28 Go to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Hello everyone,

I have a 69-71 455 and it still has the points distributor.
I want to switch it over to a nice reliably electronic distributor.

I had a friend who tried one of those $69 complete distributor setups and it did not last him a year.
Something happened to the coil which is mounted in the distributor cap.

SO what is the best one out there to buy?
Should I also have someone set it up for my power plant and final drive? (Rework the advance weights)
IF SO - Who does it?

Thanks, Tony


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: [GMCnet] What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 445 [message #226194 is a reply to message #226192] Sat, 19 October 2013 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Tony,
Only one unit to buy, a Dick Paterson HEI unit set up for your requirements. He would need to know if your engine size, what cam, carb or FI, final drive and tire size, do you tow?

http://www.paterson-gmc.com/gmc-motorhome/ignition/

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Oct 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a 69-71 455 and it still has the points distributor.
> I want to switch it over to a nice reliably electronic distributor.
>
> I had a friend who tried one of those $69 complete distributor setups and it did not last him a year.
> Something happened to the coil which is mounted in the distributor cap.
>
> SO what is the best one out there to buy?
> Should I also have someone set it up for my power plant and final drive? (Rework the advance weights)
> IF SO - Who does it?
>
> Thanks, Tony
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Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226196 is a reply to message #226192] Sat, 19 October 2013 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Thank you JR.

I left a message with his wife and I'm waiting for a call back at his convenience.

BTW - This is our coach. It may not be a GMC, but it has some of the same issues.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=27042&unread=1&rid=3252


Tony



Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226199 is a reply to message #226192] Sat, 19 October 2013 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Ultravan Owners wrote on Sat, 19 October 2013 09:28

Hello everyone,

I have a 69-71 455 and it still has the points distributor.
I want to switch it over to a nice reliably electronic distributor.

I had a friend who tried one of those $69 complete distributor setups and it did not last him a year.
Something happened to the coil which is mounted in the distributor cap.

SO what is the best one out there to buy?
Should I also have someone set it up for my power plant and final drive? (Rework the advance weights)
IF SO - Who does it?

Thanks, Tony

Tony,

While I admire Dick Paterson's work immensely, if all you want is an immediate improvement in reliability and a relief from re-tuning every 2~3k miles, just purchase and install the electronic equivalent to ignition points from Pertonix. That part you want is 1181 and comes in several types. All are simple to install.

If you go to an HEI distributor, then you have to either do a very serious hammer job on the existing air filter housing or locate the offset version used on later 455 vehicles.

Matt


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Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226203 is a reply to message #226199] Sat, 19 October 2013 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Matt Colie wrote on Sat, 19 October 2013 10:54

Ultravan Owners wrote on Sat, 19 October 2013 09:28

Hello everyone,

I have a 69-71 455 and it still has the points distributor.
I want to switch it over to a nice reliably electronic distributor.

I had a friend who tried one of those $69 complete distributor setups and it did not last him a year.
Something happened to the coil which is mounted in the distributor cap.

SO what is the best one out there to buy?
Should I also have someone set it up for my power plant and final drive? (Rework the advance weights)
IF SO - Who does it?

Thanks, Tony

Tony,

While I admire Dick Paterson's work immensely, if all you want is an immediate improvement in reliability and a relief from re-tuning every 2~3k miles, just purchase and install the electronic equivalent to ignition points from Pertonix. That part you want is 1181 and comes in several types. All are simple to install.

If you go to an HEI distributor, then you have to either do a very serious hammer job on the existing air filter housing or locate the offset version used on later 455 vehicles.

Matt



Thanks for the info Matt.

I'll have to do an update/mod to my cold air intake anyways.
As you can see the engine compartment is tight and the old/stock cold air intake draws the air from around the warm engine.
I also want to switch to a long life washable air filter setup at the same time of making the modifications to the cold air intake.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8099/8590042012_2a653b4c2f_z.jpg

Tony


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226206 is a reply to message #226203] Sat, 19 October 2013 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Ultravan Owners wrote on Sat, 19 October 2013 10:22

Thanks for the info Matt.

I'll have to do an update/mod to my cold air intake anyways.
As you can see the engine compartment is tight and the old/stock cold air intake draws the air from around the warm engine.
I also want to switch to a long life washable air filter setup at the same time of making the modifications to the cold air intake.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8099/8590042012_2a653b4c2f_z.jpg

Tony
Check with Jim K on the washable filters. His original business was air filters and GMC service was a sideline. He can set you up on the right path for an Olds 455.
Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226226 is a reply to message #226192] Sat, 19 October 2013 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Tell you friend to go buy a new coil at the local auto parts store and to reduce the plug gap to around .040".

Having distributor coils and modules go bad is common on these engines if the plug gap is set too wide. I blew two modules and one coil before I reduced the plug gap to .040". I now carry both as spares and have loaned out my spares a couple of times to stranded GMCers.

If you go to Dick Paterson for a replacement distributor he probably will want you to send in a core for rebuild. You can get one out of just about any Olds in the junkyard.

Whatever route you go, carry a spare module and coil. If you do, then you will probably never need them. If you don't then you know that you absolutely will need them on the road somewhere.

May I also suggest a set of high quality spark plug wires from Dick Paterson.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: What is the best electronic distributor for my 69-71 455 [message #226254 is a reply to message #226226] Sat, 19 October 2013 20:25 Go to previous message
jim kanomata is currently offline  jim kanomata   United States
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The failier of a coil is nothing new as they all do at one time or another, however, you need to know what you get for your money with the Patterson Springfield unit.
The mechanical timing curve is hand and machine set by Dick to give you performance and mileage.
There is more mileage gain in a properly timed distributer than playing with a carburetor.
That is why we sell his units and know that is better than any one you can get from your corner store or E Bay.


Jim Kanomata Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA jimk@appliedairfilters.com http://www.appliedgmc.com 1-800-752-7502
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